General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis truck is driving in circles around Trump's speech right now playing this audio in Pennsylvania.
Link to tweet
OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)TeamProg
(6,135 posts)krkaufman
(13,435 posts)That's a well done bit. Not over the top, official-sounding. Just broadcasting concern and offering a tip line.
calimary
(81,298 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)He's NOT the POTUS anymore.
Haggard Celine
(16,846 posts)That's dangerous work.
kentuck
(111,098 posts)A public service announcement.
Cha
(297,275 posts)Deuxcents
(16,234 posts)If we dont have enough evidence.. when will we?
calimary
(81,298 posts)Dont we have enough evidence by now?
What more do we need to see at this point?
What on earth are we waiting for? Another January 6th? More people getting killed? Seriously! WHAT on earth are we waiting for???
gab13by13
(21,349 posts)for obstruction re: the stolen classified documents.
Indicting Trump has nothing to do with evidence at this point.
I imagine DOJ will wait until after the election now.
I am 75 and the 2022 election will be the most important election in my lifetime, surpassing 2016 and 2020.
Deuxcents
(16,234 posts)I just know..n I admit, Im getting very impatient watching him holding rallies w/ no impunity.
Smackdown2019
(1,188 posts)Theres is always an election. 2022 or 2024. 2034 for that matter. If a crime occurred and arrest warrant is made, act on it!
jaxexpat
(6,831 posts)should be able to proceed their separate paths simultaneously. Too act otherwise impugns the integrity of both.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)It's also possible that several agencies are following threads of investigation that would close if the orange rat were arrested.
I'm hoping there is some significant purpose in letting this menace continue walking and talking freely.
markodochartaigh
(1,138 posts)I certainly agree that there should have been enough evidence to prosecute for more than a year; however, having seen more and more serious evidence uncovered I think that we need to uncover every last scrap of his treachery. Whatever it takes to find out how he has compromised the security of the US and its allies is worth it. He flushed official documents down toilets, there is no telling how else he has disposed of important intelligence.
soldierant
(6,880 posts)Maybe a jury with no AGAts?
Every day more and more evidence drips out making Trump and his pals look worse and worse. I'd like to see Garland hold off until after the midterms. Indicting Trump is going to rally his base. Let's wait and watch as evidence of his treachery mounts and more members of the public see just what he's done.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)What do you want to bet there's more than one bullet hole in those screens before he calls it a night?
Still, I need to get one of those trucks.
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Go Joe!
KS Toronado
(17,247 posts)Kali
(55,011 posts)Upthevibe
(8,051 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)ForgedCrank
(1,782 posts)childish. Trump's ills are a legal and potentially criminal issue, not a political one. Turning it into a political issue is a bad move all around and will only embolden them and give validation to what they are already claiming.
Let the ass have his MAGA parties and beat him with policy and results, not stupid trucks with loudspeakers trolling him. This sort of baloney needs to be highly discouraged if we are going to claim to be the adults in the room.
rubbersole
(6,691 posts)Just because I'm old doesn't mean I have to act like I'm mature.
ForgedCrank
(1,782 posts)not disagree, it is pretty funny.
But we are weeks away from a major election and we shouldn't be encouraging this BS, especially right now. It's a really bad look for us. You know how they operate, one person does something like this and the next thing you know, Tucker Carlson is blasting it all over the air.
I just think we need to be better through example. I think people are getting really tired of this kindergarten stuff.
Meadowoak
(5,546 posts)Follow him everywhere he goes. Draw as much negative attention to Trump as possible. He'll play the victim card, but he always plays the victim card.
ShazzieB
(16,412 posts)You are aware, are you not, that this site is Democratic Underground?
Just checking.
orleans
(34,053 posts)the audio was true and a reminder that their god is a fucking criminal douchebag
and tucker carlson can fuck off. why would you even care for a second what that little asshole has to say?
ForgedCrank
(1,782 posts)childish behavior reflects poorly on all of us and those jackasses will broadcast it all over the place. you and I may think it's cute, but what do you think the independent voters (you know, the ones who actually decide the elections) will think when they see it?
We have an election to win in a few weeks. If you think this is the way to do it, the please, continue.
But don't bust my chops for pointing out that it's childish behavior, because it is.
orleans
(34,053 posts)obviously you don't approve
i don't view it as "childish behavior"
i think it was a great idea
what do you think could have been done as a counter to trump's rally? nothng?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)Children often pretend not to hear speech with which they disagree.
NJCher
(35,678 posts)Know anything about communication? It's an entire field of study and one of the areas that falls under it is propaganda and disinformation. If you research what is being done about our current disinformation crisis, you will find the institutes that study it are under the auspices of the communication departments of universities.
To say this is "childish" is off the wall.
Do you not understand that the people at this rally pretty much only listen to Fox and the other r-w media that is being financed by billionaires and oligarchs of our own in this country?
Do you not understand that this is an attempt to present a message that there is no way they are going to see or hear otherwise?
That's what this is all about. There is nothing political about it. It presents the truth--something the people who went to this rally desperately need to know.
Yes it is going to fall on biased ears. They will rationalize and have trouble believing it. However, at some point down the road they are going to look back on this moment when they shut their eyes to the truth, because that truth is coming--in a big way.
I respect and admire the people who did this. As a long-time activist who has put major projects together (for example, 30 buses out of NYC to protest bush's inauguration), I know what is involved. There is financial commitment and time.
They are heroes and to think what they are doing is "childish" is a gross misunderstanding of what is really going on here.
ForgedCrank
(1,782 posts)me ask you, do you know anything about people?
Those are MAGA people in there. Do you think a single one of them is going to be swayed by the loudspeaker on that truck?
I think your assessment of my capacity is seriously flawed and a gross misunderstanding of the point I was trying to make.
I personally do not believe in grown adults behaving like this. We seem to be able to call it when we see them doing it, but then we are supposed to call it something else when we see our side doing it?
But please, continue.
NJCher
(35,678 posts)I guess
you didn't read it very carefully. Here it is:
Yes it is going to fall on biased ears. They will rationalize and have trouble believing it. However, at some point down the road they are going to look back on this moment when they shut their eyes to the truth, because that truth is coming--in a big way.
Let me ask you something: do you know anything about maturity?
This has nothing to do with maturity. It has everything to do with calling out a lie.
If you let a lie stand, for example, and later go to a court with a complaint about how it damaged you, you'll have no satisfaction if you didn't call that lie out ON TIME. Right then, when it was perpetuated.
This is what discourse is all about--of course, you wouldn't know that since you don't seem to know anything much about communication.
ForgedCrank
(1,782 posts)the part of communication where you listen to the views of another and take them serious enough to debate them with integrity.
I gave an honest opinion, and you called me ignorant. So that's where that stands.
And I still insist, driving a truck around a magat rally with a billboard and bull horn is childish, and it will be sold that way across the media.
You are free to disagree with me and I will not call you ignorant.
NJCher
(35,678 posts)thanks for bringing up that point. I had nearly forgotten about this attitude of "we can't do that because they'll do this."
Living in fear--fear of what they will do.
I simply cannot see operating like that. Fear will never tell me what I can or cannot say.
Last post to you: this has nothing to do with maturity. Nothing.
With your thinking. I also understand the counter argument that doing this kind of thing with the truck and the loudspeaker might alienate some of the independents, who think anybody who comes out with anything but total politeness, they dont wanna have anything to do with.
That said, Joe, as our inspirational leader, has opened up with a very strong speech the other night going directly at TFG and his merry band of MAGA extremists. I think we have watched TFG carry on like this for so long, we absolutely need to come at him with a full artillery of the opposing view presented through Joe with the bully pulpit and us by encouraging all our friends and family etc. to get to the ballot box as the midterms are a really consequential election.
The last thing we need to do is lay back and let this despicable national disgrace and his like thinking would be totalitarian accomplices, walk all over us. We need to fight fire with fire and my guess is the independents and moderate Republicans that have had a belly full of this character, are going to side with us. Not to mention the women who are just livid at the abortion craziness.
BumRushDaShow
(129,059 posts)ShazzieB
(16,412 posts)KS Toronado
(17,247 posts)FBI has a PSA about missing top secret documents being broadcast at an event that might be attended
by people who bought them from tfg or knows what happened to the documents.
Absolutely nothing political about the FBI going after criminals anyway they think might help them uncover
what happened to the missing documents.
IMHO...They should have offered a reward in their broadcast.
Justice matters.
(6,929 posts)Woodwizard
(844 posts)Keeping it in the news cycle with short attention span America is where it is at. How many, now that it has been a few weeks talk about the January 6th investigations?
Sogo
(4,986 posts)I couldn't help but laugh, imagining some of the MAGAT faces on hearing this....
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)in the Court of public opinion. The question to his supporters: "do you think we should have a Russian spy for president?"
Things like this make his arrest, "....well, it was bound to happen...."
Kath2
(3,074 posts)Anything that disrupts a Trump rally is wonderful.
3Hotdogs
(12,384 posts)If the truck was running outside of a venue and the OrangeAnus was allowed to present his views, I'm ok with that.
If it was an outdoor rally and the truck interfered with his right to communicate, that is wrong.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)they would be interfering with his continual lying and slanderous speech which is all that spews out of him. Freedom of speech doesn't mean we are free to lie, cheat and steal, does it?
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,033 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Pwned again, conservawhackos.
malaise
(269,023 posts)Excellent
Kid Berwyn
(14,907 posts)Its truth that bears repeating: TRUMP IS A TRAITOR!
Chili Pepper
(102 posts)Lets see more of this a lot more of this. In any and every form!
Martin68
(22,803 posts)Don't look the other way, don't keep a low profile, and don't give an inch.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)is to drive a truck around town. Says a lot about our media.
NJCher
(35,678 posts)although I see your point insofar as Fox and certain social media sites are concerned. It's really a matter of spending your message dollar efficiently:
--buy tv time to tell the audience that trump stole documents and you'll be paying to reach a substantial number of people who already know that.
Buy radio time: see above paragraph, same thing.
Buy social media: hard to cut through because they have their own set of sites. You'd have to pay the enemy for ads and they probably wouldn't allow the ad anyway.
Buy a magazine or newspaper ad: paying for people who know trump stole documents.
But this driving the truck/speaker medium reaches the people who need to hear it. Yeah, sure, there might be a few independents or Dems standing around observing, but the vast majority who are seeing it are the dregs, the last of his diehard supporters.
.