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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump wildly misses the point of notorious Mar-a-Lago picture
TFG is truly an idiot. First the complaints he has made about the evidence demonstration picture are all admissions against interest that will be used against him in court. Second, this FBI laid out the evidence collected as part of a normal chain of custody procedure that is used in all search warrant cases where significant evidence is collected. TFG is so stupid that he thinks that the FBI was trying to make TFG look messy when the FBI was merely treating TFG the same way that they treat a busted drug deal or other common criminal
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For the record, he didnt appear to be kidding.
First, the idea that the materials were all declassified continues to be a claim so ridiculous that Trumps own lawyers are afraid to raise it in court.
Second, as The New York Times reported, the way in which the FBI agents laid out the materials for the photograph was in keeping with standard protocols for how federal agents handle evidence they come across in a search.
Third, Trump has apparently moved on from the planted evidence talking point, choosing instead to seemingly confirm that these materials really were in his possession. In the process, hes appears to have now contradicted in writing and on the air claims from his own lawyers about having previously returned all of the classified materials hed previously taken.
Fourth, the clarification was wholly unnecessary: The Justice Departments court filing doesnt claim that the materials were found on the floor. Rather, it says the documents were recovered from a container in Trumps office.
And finally, it doesnt matter how they ended up on the floor. Trump has spent much of the week wildly missing the point of the entire scandal.
The point of the picture was not to show that TFG was messy but to document the chain of custody of the materials seized. TFG was being treated like a common drug dealer or common criminal. Such treatment is very appropriate
Again, TFG is a common criminal and the FBI treated TFG as a common criminal The fact that TFG is too stupid to understand this amuses me
Stuart G
(38,427 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,279 posts)TFG was being treated as a common criminal or drug dealer following a successful execution of a search warrant
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TFG is a common criminal and was treated as such. The evidence of his crimes was documented by the FBI in accordance with standard procedures for dealing with common criminals
ret5hd
(20,491 posts)very neat, tailored, and with a tie of the proper length!
Hekate
(90,704 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,667 posts)be identified as fact free. It's all just one uncontrollable ooze.
He's always only been a carnival barker, con man.
Your "mouth-noises" description is perfect!
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GuppyGal
(1,748 posts)it's only going to work on the wooden heads.
ShazzieB
(16,406 posts)Like the OP says, his complaints are admissions that will be used against him in court. So not only is it going to work only on his cultists, he's just digging himself in deeper and making himself look even guiltier.
GuppyGal
(1,748 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,279 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,347 posts)yankee87
(2,173 posts)With everything closing in on the petulant man-child, he finally realizing hes being held accountable for his crimes. I hope and pray that he is in court and has to testify for a criminal case. Hes so used to punching down, and just overwhelming his contractors in court.
Ponietz
(2,974 posts)he commingled the documents with the gifts intentionally. They are connected. Why?
Frasier Balzov
(2,652 posts)to suspect the FBI of tampering with evidence.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,279 posts)TFG's complaints are all confessions that will be used against him. TFG is so stupid that he did not SHUT up after the search photo sere released and admitted that he had these materials in his possession in a carton
I am not the only lawyer who is enjoying watching TFG made admissions against interest/confesstions
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BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)I didnt leave all of those top secret documents I stole just laying on my ugly fucking carpet?
Noted.
Wounded Bear
(58,660 posts)Kath2
(3,074 posts)The MAGA movement really is a cancer. It should be over but it is not. I don't know what it will take to convince his blind followers that he is a con man and a fraud.
live love laugh
(13,113 posts)As usual.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,279 posts)TFG loves confessing to crimes
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Cha
(297,253 posts)Ugly Ass FACE
BootinUp
(47,154 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,279 posts)TFG is an idiot who is NOT listening to his attorneys. TFG has now repeatedly confessed to stealing top secret documents
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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/will-trump-be-arrested-holding-top-secret-documents-n1298391?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
So far, the only thing consistent about Trumps defense strategy is that it is largely incoherent and legally irrelevant. Trump intimated that the FBI planted documents at his estate in Palm Beach, Florida. The problem with that, in addition to the fact that there is no basis for this claim, is that Trump has also argued that there is no problem with his having said documents not only because they are privileged but also because he declassified them. The National Archives and Records Administration rejected Trumps previous privilege arguments, which were likely little more than an attempt to stonewall the investigation.
Trumps pivot to arguing that he declassified the documents has two primary problems. First, theres no proof that he actually did declassify the documents. Indeed, the letter from Trumps attorney that was included as an exhibit in the partial release of the affidavit argues only that Trump had the power to declassify documents when he was president, not that he actually did so. Second, even if he did, none of the federal statutes cited in the search warrant depend on the documents being classified. Simply put, declassification isnt a helpful defense for Trump.....
But two things are clear. The more Trump says, the worse this investigation is getting for him. And the more we learn, the more evidence we have that Trump isnt a person who should ever be in a position of power again. Far from protecting and defending our country, all signs point to his putting it at serious risk.
Cha
(297,253 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)Trump is exploiting the early assumptions of people who were not familiar with search procedures, but he is far from alone in thinking it was a photo of how the FBI found the documents.
Me.
(35,454 posts)and the thief asks for them back
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,279 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,279 posts)Eric is very stupid and does not understand that his dad was being treated the same way as any common criminal or drug dealer. The stolen property was put on displayed for evidentiary purposes
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