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GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
10. Yes. Same shit, different day.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 07:35 AM
Sep 2022

It's a staple in his rallies. Nothing but the usual, boring litany of lies, grievances, name-calling, and dog-whistles. It's pathetic.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. They want to "lock" political opponents in general up. Disappear a bunch.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 06:10 AM
Sep 2022

Execute others for fake crimes with or without the formality of pretend trials. Be too feared to be crossed. That's why these authoritarian types elevated him to power -- they saw in him someone who would do it for them. Most are far too dishonest and lacking in self awareness to admit it, much less see themselves for what they've become.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
7. While at the same time be allowed to commit any and all crimes to their heart's content.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 06:56 AM
Sep 2022

With no consequences.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Yup. They don't know it, though, and would be shocked to realize it.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 07:13 AM
Sep 2022

They are the law and order people.

Reading about the authoritarian mind is fascinating. And scary. Well before tRump, researcher Bob Altemeyer reported that many could be quickly roused by a bad leader to kill their neighbors.

They can also be loving parents and caring neighbors, and tend to keep their cars washed and lawns mowed, so everyone, they most of all, knows they're good people.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
11. They are law and order for everyone one else.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 08:03 AM
Sep 2022

The law is to protect them only, not bind them.

For the rest of us, the law is to control and subjugate, not protect.

Yes the authoritarian personality theory is very scary, and cult followers research is as well.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. " Yes now. Later no. After all, authoritarians are [u]gut[/u] believers
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:56 AM
Sep 2022

in the virtue of obedience to authority they recognize. It doesn't only come naturally, they need firm imposition of strong laws by authority, and strong penalties for breaking them. And order requires society without too much freedom.

It's the dangerous dis-order and burdens of too much freedom and individual responsibilities under democracy that authoritarians have a problem with. Their lawlessness will last only as long as it takes to replace the liberalism that's destroying society with their leaders. And they will obey the leader's eventual edict to turn in their guns. (Other RWers maybe not so fast.)

It's understandable that we're confused by their strong (fanatic) support for lawlessness by tRump and sundry others. But to them, upholding whatever their authorities do IS upholding law and order.

It's also obedience to authority.

Authoritarians.

Emile

(22,771 posts)
8. The media need to stop covering this traitor.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 07:09 AM
Sep 2022

All he does is cause more hate and division. He is destroying the soul of the country and the media is not helping.

EnergizedLib

(1,895 posts)
14. What year is it?
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:59 AM
Sep 2022

Move on already.

For the people mindlessly chanting Lock Her Up, they need to ask themselves why their messiah never tried to do so in four years to do something about it?

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