The Clinton email investigation is NOT relevant to TFG's theft of top-secret documents

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TFG and others want to compare the Clinton email investigation to TFG's theft of top-secret documents. Such comparisons are stupid in that there were not classified documents mishandled by Hillary and TFG actually stole and mishandled top secred documents

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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/republicans-refuse-grasp-clinton-standard-rcna45429

There was, however, a key detail that shouldn’t go overlooked. Graham didn’t just seem to justify prospective violence, the longtime GOP lawmaker also went into some detail about the basis for the perceived injustice. “If they try to prosecute President Trump for mishandling classified information after Hillary Clinton set up a server in her basement,” the senator told Fox News, “there literally will be riots in the street.”.....

The problem emerges when grown-ups bother to look beyond the surface — and notice that the allegations surrounding Clinton and Trump aren’t especially similar.

Clinton’s email protocols were, of course, the subject of a lengthy criminal probe. Federal investigators appeared eager to find evidence of wrongdoing: then-FBI Director James Comey privately marveled at the “visceral hatred” some senior FBI officials in New York had for the former secretary of state.

But federal law enforcement nevertheless didn’t charge the Democrat with any crimes because they couldn’t find evidence of criminal wrongdoing. Comey took the extraordinary step of publicly criticizing Clinton anyway, but he grudgingly conceded that the FBI, following an exhaustive investigation, couldn’t indict her.

Trump’s State Department similarly conceded — late on a Friday afternoon — that there was no systemic or deliberate mishandling of classified information from Clinton. The inspector general’s office in Trump’s Justice Department also concluded that the FBI had no reason to charge Clinton.

Trump’s scandal bears little resemblance to his former rival’s. Clinton didn’t take physical documents. She didn’t ignore pleas for cooperation. She didn’t store highly sensitive secrets at a private club that had an unfortunate habit of letting foreign spies walk around.

Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong. TFG did break the law and grossly mishandled top secret documents.

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1. I keep this handy for doubters....

"July 7 2016....
At today’s Oversight Committee hearing, Director Comey provided significant new information about these emails that debunked this Republican conspiracy theory. First, Director Comey explained that he was talking about only three emails out of the 30,000 his office reviewed, or 1/100 of 1% of the emails. Second, Director Comey explained that these three specific emails were not properly marked as classified pursuant to federal guidelines and manuals. They did not have a classification header, and they did not list the original classifier, the agency and office of origin, the reason for classification, or the date for declassification. Instead they included only a single “(c)” for “confidential” on one paragraph lower down in the text. Finally, Director Comey explained that it would have been a “reasonable inference” for Secretary Clinton to “immediately” conclude that these emails were not in fact classified. Here is the exchange between Director Comey and Rep. Matthew Cartwright:

Rep. Cartwright: Those three documents with the little “c”s on them, were they properly documented? Were they properly marked according to the manual?

Director Comey: No.

Rep. Cartwright: According to the manual, and I ask unanimous consent to enter this into the record, Mr. Chairman. According to the manual, if you’re going to classify something, there has to be a header on the document, right?

Director Comey: Correct.

Rep. Cartwright: Was there a header on the three documents that we’ve discussed today that had the little “c” in the text someplace?

Director Comey: No, there were three e-mails. The “c” was in the body in the text, but there was no header on the email or in the text.

Rep. Cartwright: So if Secretary Clinton really were an expert at what's classified and what’s not classified and we're following the manual, the absence of a header would tell her immediately that those three documents were not classified. Am I correct in that?

Director Comey: That would be a reasonable inference.

In addition, the State Department spokesperson made clear yesterday that these emails, which discussed call information for the Secretary, included these “c”s by mistake, and the information was not in fact classified


https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-director-comey-emails-were-not-properly-marked-as-classified

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5. No, the FBI's Trump investigation is not just like the Hillary Clinton email probe. Here's why.

Clinton had three emails that were not marked classified and were later deemed classified without her knowledge. There was no gross negligence or other conduct that was remotely criminal

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/fbis-trump-investigation-hillary-clinton-email-probe-heres/story?id=89069046&cid=social_twitter_abcn

As more details emerge about why the FBI decided to raid former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate earlier this month, both Trump and his allies are increasingly suggesting the FBI is treating him differently than it treated Hillary Clinton, who avoided charges for her use of a private email server as secretary of state......

"James Comey read off a list of all ... Hillary Clinton's crimes, only to say that no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute," Trump said of the former FBI director in a social media post this past weekend.

But a review of government documents from both investigations suggests there are key differences between the evidence uncovered in Clinton's case and the evidence already publicly documented in the Trump investigation.......

To charge any of them with violating 793(e), prosecutors would have had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Clinton or her aides acted "willfully" and "with the intent to do something the law forbids," the Justice Department's inspector general said in its report on the case.

Prosecutors determined that the evidence and facts of Clinton's case showed "a lack of intent to communicate classified information on unclassified systems," especially since "[n]one of the emails Clinton received were properly marked to inform her of the classified status of the information," and investigators found evidence that Clinton and her aides "worded emails carefully in an attempt to 'talk around' classified information," according to the inspector general's report.

"There was no evidence that the senders or former Secretary Clinton believed or were aware at the time that the emails contained classified information," prosecutors concluded, according to the inspector general......

Witnesses in the Clinton case told investigators they "expected that any emails sent to a state.gov address would be preserved" -- and many of those emails were acquired from other devices -- so "there was no evidence that Clinton or anyone else" intended to conceal, remove or destroy the emails from government systems, the inspector general said.

In addition, federal prosecutors concluded that, unlike the electronic communications underpinning Clinton's case, "every prosecution under Section 2071 has involved" the "physical removal" or destruction of a document, the inspector general said.

There is no real comparison between the Clinton and TFG cases

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2. Why it happened -

FBI Director James Comey privately marveled at the “visceral hatred” some senior FBI officials in New York had for the former secretary of state

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3. K & R...nt

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4. Basically other people sent her stuff to her personal email server

which she was allowed to have as long as communications were non-governmental ... when they should not have done so.

And she had no reason to think she was storing something on that server she shouldn't have been, as you can see from the Comey exchange in front of Congress.

And the WORST of it was 'possibly confidential'. Confidential is a low security rating. The number of cans of Spaghetti-O's on a Navy Cruiser is 'confidential'.

Trump had SECRET and TOP SECRET physical documents, AND he absolutely purposefully stole them, AND obstructed the investigation purposefully on top of it.

The scale of the offenses are nowhere near close.

[Turbineguy]

6. Trump figured he could steal documents

maybe he's at the "believe your own bullshit" stage of collapse.

[bullimiami]

7. comparing the outrage over a few emails and the ho hum over trumps disaster is telling.

the rw cares zero for laws or national security.

its only about punishing enemies and impunity for friends.

so they can just stfu.


and if its to do with using a private server instead of government secure servers?
give me a f-ing break since trump and his people spent 4 years circumventing secure communications and actively tried to bypass any monitoring.

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8. Hillary Clinton-I can't believe we're still talking about this, but my emails...

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9. Hillary Clinton had "zero emails that were classified" and even Trump's own State Department admitte

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