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Trump didn't kill 1M+ Iraqis.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Hes killing our DEMOCRACY.
scarletlib
(3,418 posts)onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)speak easy
(9,289 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)And third, and fourth, etc. How many people would President-for-Life Trump kill?
As many as his cultists cheered for.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)who very well could have nipped the whole pandemic in the bud right there, he is probably indirectly responsible for the deaths of millions more world-wide. Add to that untold numbers of people working for US Intelligence agencies who have been outed and killed because of his treasonous actions, and all those who are dead or permanently maimed by his various cult members who have been out there shooting up the place for the past two years, or driving their vehicles through crowds. Who knows how many are going to die weeks, months or years from now because of this fucker stealing and likely selling away our nation's most closely-held secrets? That alone makes him worse that Reagan and both Bushes combined. Hell, you can even throw Dick Cheney in with them, and that goddamn traitor would still be worse.
hlthe2b
(102,326 posts)Not sure that this is even a question. All the previous had at least a modicum of respect for the constitution and did not incite followers into a violent cult intent on overturning democracy.
There is no debate, imo.
Better Days Ahoy
(698 posts)He made up for it with COVID denial and delay, policy toward the Kurds, policy toward Ukraine, continuing divisive and violent rhetoric that encourage actual violence and insurrection, attempts to destroy our political system, theft and probably sale of national security secrets, and complacency toward dictators that led to more deaths and destruction overseas.
Is this a trick question with just one benchmark for the most evil, inhumane, incompetent, uncaring, un- American grifter ever elected?
Perhaps you can grab your first morning coffee and give the headline question another try. Christ.
tritsofme
(17,389 posts)the horrors committed by the others.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)betsuni
(25,582 posts)Thought they were right. At least they had a reason. Trump is nutty.
MatthewG.
(362 posts)Trump is, by far, the worst human being to be President. Grossly corrupt, openly contemptuous of moral norms, narcissistic to the point of derangement, and with a thoroughly unpleasant personality, to boot. His history of moral degeneracy is almost literally endless, ranging from assaults to petty corruption in financial dealings. Had he been born anything other than privileged, hed have become a street criminal.
Bush Jr. may have been a worse President in the sense that, at a global level, his Administration did more harm through the Iraq War (a war so disastrous his own party now disclaims it) than did Trump. Trump would make a worse neighbor in the sense that I think its unlikely Bush Jr. would sexually assault my niece were the two to meet.
Reagan was a bad President whose embrace of dumb and destructive policies sent America on its present path of social-political decay. His awfulness was slightly inihbited by the fact that his party was somewhat less reactionary in the 80s than it is today, so he appointed the occasional moderate like Sandra Day OConnor to high office. By todays standards hed be considered about average on the Republican awful chart, not a walking crisis to the state like Trump, nor a semi-moderate like Romney, but maybe about Marco Rubio-level awful.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)All of them are awful, but they never betrayed this country the way Trump has. It remains to be seen how many people will wind up dying from what he did.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)14 years worth of hindsight has given us a lot of clarity on bush. The consequences of the trump presidency are still playing out.
Prior to J6 and the current espionage scandal, I would have 100% agreed that 43 was the worst. Now, its looking more and more to be trump.
bush at least somewhat valued our democratic traditions and was interested in preserving that. As a veteran who fought in Iraq, I can attest to how awful Iraq was in 2004. Also, the Great Recession of 2007 was clearly his. Personally, the bush presidency was much more consequential on my own life than trumps.
Celerity
(43,462 posts)Xoan
(25,322 posts)Indictments of administration members.
Reagan was the WOAT.
Paladin
(28,268 posts)The fact that Nixon, Reagan and W provide some form of competition doesn't change that. They weren't fascist madmen.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,189 posts)And that trumps all.