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kentuck

(111,106 posts)
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:11 AM Sep 2022

Deranged or Demented?

"He was in the White House just a week ago and he kissed my ass..", paraphrasing the former president. (He was talking about a visit by Mark Zuckerberg a few years ago)

Was that just a misstatement or was it indicative of the advanced dementia now on display by the former guy?

Dementia or not, his comments were deranged in so many ways. For example, he called the FBI and DoJ "vicious monsters" for their search warrant upon his home in Mar-a-Lago. He called Joe Biden an "enemy of the state". If he does have dementia, he is still capable of attacking those people or institutions that he sees as a threat to him, in hopes of tearing them down and defeating them on the field of public relations.

Also, how would his "condition" affect the criminal investigation now ongoing? He is still capable of conspiring to attack his "enemies" and committing crimes as serious as espionage, and attempt to minimize them as nothing more than an overdue library book. If he does not understand the seriousness of his crime, can he be prosecuted for the crime?

These are questions soon to be asked.

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Deranged or Demented? (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2022 OP
How about modrepub Sep 2022 #1
Yes, this is the panic of a cornered rat. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #13
Are they mutually exclusive? PJMcK Sep 2022 #2
Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #21
Either way: Put him away Better Days Ahoy Sep 2022 #3
We've heard many MAGAts ... NanceGreggs Sep 2022 #4
That's an interesting question. kentuck Sep 2022 #8
Oh, I don't know about that. NanceGreggs Sep 2022 #9
:-) kentuck Sep 2022 #14
He is NOT RIGHT in the head. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2022 #5
Pure da evil...... Lovie777 Sep 2022 #6
To plead insanity, you must not be able to tell right from wrong. Few meet patricia92243 Sep 2022 #7
Maybe he's working on a defense if he's indicted. Probably just another con job. Vinca Sep 2022 #10
He is a pathological narcissist so he will never acknowledge the seriousness of his crimes. Siwsan Sep 2022 #11
Mental incapacity and confinement work for me. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #12
Him, degenerating, showing up as a babbling dolt to the point that it can't be hidden--- 3Hotdogs Sep 2022 #15
traitortrump may be all of the above. A walking DSM casebook empedocles Sep 2022 #16
A whole DSM-6... 3catwoman3 Sep 2022 #17
His carping about the mess the FBI left was hilarious to me gratuitous Sep 2022 #18
People here have been saying he has dementia since 2015 or so. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2022 #19
3D Donnie Kid Berwyn Sep 2022 #20
His brain was stuck in 2019 . sarcasmo Sep 2022 #22
Impossible to know because when he misspeaks he never fixes the mistake just goes right along Lettuce Be Sep 2022 #23

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
13. Yes, this is the panic of a cornered rat.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:48 AM
Sep 2022

Sure, Trump may have dementia, Alzheimer's, untreated syphilis, or some other form of mental decline. He probably does, actually. But, this ain't that. His behavior is that of a criminal who knows they've been found out, and is flailing to avoid being caught. Think Jake Blues in the sewer with Carrie Fisher standing over him with a rifle about to shoot him, making every excuse in the book as to why he left her standing at the altar.

PJMcK

(22,039 posts)
2. Are they mutually exclusive?
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:18 AM
Sep 2022

Those are but two of the many pathologies Trump suffers from.

He’s a very sick man.

Better Days Ahoy

(698 posts)
3. Either way: Put him away
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:20 AM
Sep 2022

Prison or asylum, it matters not. Same end game.
As another DUer recently posted on another topic, we don't care about the method.

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
4. We've heard many MAGAts ...
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:22 AM
Sep 2022

... explain how they'll still support Trump in 2024 even if he's in prison.

Now the question is whether they'll still support him if he's in a straitjacket.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
8. That's an interesting question.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:28 AM
Sep 2022

I suspect they would tend to support him more if he was in prison, rather than a straitjacket.

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
9. Oh, I don't know about that.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:37 AM
Sep 2022

Some MAGAloons are so far gone, they'd probably find the drooling downright sexy, and the incoherent ravings a speaking-in-tongues 'sign from God'.


ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
5. He is NOT RIGHT in the head.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:24 AM
Sep 2022

That is certainly obvious.

A BULLY continuing to act out because he did not get what he wanted. PROTECTION from possible/probable prosecution for crimes he committed while POTUS.

I am reminded of a question Robert Mueller was asked before Congress about being able to prosecute a former President.."Yes" was his answer.

Lovie777

(12,311 posts)
6. Pure da evil......
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:24 AM
Sep 2022

As a sci fi fan I've have my share of cinema depiction of evil, shithole is the reality of pure evil.

Siwsan

(26,286 posts)
11. He is a pathological narcissist so he will never acknowledge the seriousness of his crimes.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:41 AM
Sep 2022

To do that would be to admit he did something wrong and I suspect that's impossible for him.

He knows right from wrong. He just doesn't think any of that responsibility should be expected of him, so he doesn't care.

IMHO, of course.

3Hotdogs

(12,396 posts)
15. Him, degenerating, showing up as a babbling dolt to the point that it can't be hidden---
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 09:08 AM
Sep 2022

that would be the best end to his nonsense. Maggats can't complain that he was railroaded to prison. Then they would have to recognize their own stupidity in following him.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. His carping about the mess the FBI left was hilarious to me
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 11:05 AM
Sep 2022

The same guy who gleefully recounted incidents of cops handling suspects roughly was all bent out of shape about the FBI and how the agents executed a search warrant. Oh, he's just so upset that they searched Melania's room and his young son's room (and notice how he didn't mention Barron's name - because he couldn't remember it?).

What a big baby.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,871 posts)
19. People here have been saying he has dementia since 2015 or so.
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 11:11 AM
Sep 2022

No, he doesn't have dementia. He is a narcissitic bully who lies constantly and fully believes his lies.

If you've ever been around someone when they are first showing signs of dementia you'd know. My mother-in-law had Alzheimer's. I remember how it was before we realized that was what was going on. I think my sister-in-law is in the very early stages, as an occasional odd turn of conversation is a lot like m-i-l all those years ago.

But not the Donald. Again, he lies constantly, says whatever comes into his head at the moment, but he doesn't have dementia.

Lettuce Be

(2,336 posts)
23. Impossible to know because when he misspeaks he never fixes the mistake just goes right along
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 04:32 PM
Sep 2022

Most "normal" speakers would simply repeat it correctly but not him.

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