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Nevilledog

(51,167 posts)
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 07:01 PM Sep 2022

Righteous rant: Their arguments deserve mockery and scorn. They are unAmerican





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The context for Trumpism is that exurban white religious conservatives believe they have a God-given mandate to rule forever, and a divine sanction to do so by any means necessary.

They see democracy itself as an insurrection against a white male supremacist God. /1

They are allied with rich, mostly white objectivists who believe they have superior IQs and genetics, and see equity as an affront to God and nature. They believe they have a right to take everything by right of social darwinism, by any means necessary. /2

This is the intersection of Donald Trump, Peter Thiel, Leo Strauss, Jerry Falwell and QAnon.

You cannot negotiate or argue with ths, and it will not be placated. You either crush it by ardent protection of democracy and social rights, or it takes over with an iron fist. /3

Because the truth is they have no right to rule. Donald Trump does not have "good genes." Tucker Carlson didn't build civilization, and neither did his ancestors. Jesus wasn't a white supremacist and didn't write the constitution. Men have no inherent right to rule over women. /4

The rich are far more lucky than they are skilled, and the wealth they have stolen far, far exceeds any value they provide to society.

None of these people has an inherent right to rule anything, or deserves to have their votes count more than the rest of us. /5

They see social and demographic changes as itself cheating them out of their birthright, such that any insurrection and fascism is a justified response.

They have no birthright, none beyond the same citizenship as the rest of us, and the basic rights we all have as humans. /6

Nothing has been taken from them, because none of it ever belonged to them in the first place.

Insofar as equity feels like oppression to them--too bad. Their prior advantages existed & exist not by right but by theft.

The fact that they have lost the culture is their problem.7

The fact that most people live in cities is their problem. The fact that almost everyone under 45 hates them is their problem. The fact that the pews are emptying is their problem. The fact that not even corporate America or pro sports likes them anymore? Their problem. /8

What "Make America Great Again" means is "give us our hegemony back and hurt all the people we fear and see as a threat."

Too bad. We all exist in this big country together. With equal rights, social protections and equity.

They are owed nothing more than the rest of us. /9

They see their fascist insurrection as a necessary counterreformation to re-establish their genetic, chromosomal and God-given birthright.

They have no genetic, chromosomal or God-given birthright to rule. They never have.

The very notion deserves maximum scorn. /10

And we have no obligation to treat it with kid gloves. Give them no ground. Their fascist insurrection is just that--a fascist insurrection.

A young atheist woman of color in a big city is just as American as they are, and deserves to have their vote just as much. Too bad. /11

They can whine, they can wail, they can insist that they are "real" Americans with an inherent right to rule, and that generational and demographic change are an unfair, socialist or Satanist plot.

Whatever. Those arguments deserve mockery and scorn. They are unAmerican. /12

This period of intense partisan conflict will end when they finally understand they have no inherent right to rule.

Or when they implement a fascist regime.

But we aren't going to let them do it. We see it coming, and are prepared to stop them.

/end
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Righteous rant: Their arguments deserve mockery and scorn. They are unAmerican (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2022 OP
they claim to be the "real Americans" Skittles Sep 2022 #1
So much blatant truth and wisdom in one post should be a crime! intrepidity Sep 2022 #2
Excellent post. Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #3
Dominionism. czarjak Sep 2022 #4
JFC! I've been fighting against traitor Republicans my entire adult life and I'm old! OMGWTF Sep 2022 #5
Yeah, the Whigs wore me down, but I didn't give up. gab13by13 Sep 2022 #7
High marks for being clear, concise, and succinct. He speaks from keopeli Sep 2022 #6
KNR and bookmarking. niyad Sep 2022 #8
Watch... Duppers Sep 2022 #9
The author (David Atkins) is a regular contributor. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2022 #10
And is anyone else waiting for the wrath of God to be unleached EnterwebsJohn Sep 2022 #11
Those marginal 90% tax rates pre-1960 maybe weren't such a bad idea afterall, yes? thenelm1 Sep 2022 #12
K&R 2naSalit Sep 2022 #13

OMGWTF

(3,972 posts)
5. JFC! I've been fighting against traitor Republicans my entire adult life and I'm old!
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:36 PM
Sep 2022

Make it fking stop! This gang of ghouls must be shut down for good like their predecessors the Whigs.

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
6. High marks for being clear, concise, and succinct. He speaks from
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 08:44 PM
Sep 2022

He speaks from a "Woman On the Streets" perspective. It's grounding. Most importantly, this writing resonates with an audience that is realizing more with each passing day that it is far larger than this "semi-fascist" bile.

 

EnterwebsJohn

(87 posts)
11. And is anyone else waiting for the wrath of God to be unleached
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 09:34 PM
Sep 2022

on the voters in Kansas for the abortion vote sinfullness?

I'm thinking anydaY now Kansas will be reduced to nothing more than a smoking cinder.

thenelm1

(854 posts)
12. Those marginal 90% tax rates pre-1960 maybe weren't such a bad idea afterall, yes?
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:13 PM
Sep 2022

Somewhere the meaning of the forming of this country got lost. The colonists didn't just rebel against the cruelty of a monarch, but also the tyranny of the aristocratic class that held most of those not part of it in abject poverty. Along with religious freedom and self-government, refugees from Ireland, Germany and pretty everywhere else, were fleeing that enforced poverty and capriciousness inflicted on them by the rich and powerful from wherever they came from.

Now it seems that those that have attained that same level of wealth and power here, i.e. most of the Republican upper crust, want to bring us back to those "good ole days" where anyone not of their ilk is just a turd on their shoe, as if we aren't looked on like that already. Not to generalize, but many from inherited wealth, TFG being a prime example, are the worst. They got their money doing squat for the most part but consider themselves as those with "superior genes" or "skills" - hell no. Too many seem to be mental midgets who achieved their station by way of the genetic lottery. (Failing upward I think is term. Shrub falls into this category. TFG certainly fits as well.)

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