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queentonic

(243 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:46 AM Sep 2022

Just a Question About Judge Loose Canon

Maybe someone out there can answer this question for me. Would it be possible for President Biden to intervene and issue an Executive Order declaring that, because of judicial overreach, all of the classified documents taken from Mar-a-largo are in lock down and no one can access these documents except those given the proper clearance and that this is not a matter for the judicial branch to decide? Just womdering

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Just a Question About Judge Loose Canon (Original Post) queentonic Sep 2022 OP
No. The next move is firmly in the hands of the Justice Department. littlemissmartypants Sep 2022 #1
Can the DoJ do anything? NullTuples Sep 2022 #3
They get to file a response to the ruling. She's also being sued but not by DOJ. littlemissmartypants Sep 2022 #4
But are there really any repercussions for the things she did or would it require 2/3 Congress? NullTuples Sep 2022 #5
I don't think congress has any thing to do with it. littlemissmartypants Sep 2022 #6
Who is suing her and on what basis? herding cats Sep 2022 #7
I can't find the article now. If I run across it again I'll share it. littlemissmartypants Sep 2022 #18
RSO rso Sep 2022 #2
Biden has already issue a ruling the TFG is NOT covered by executive privilege LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #8
Maybe the DOJ will 'remind' the judge of this Captain Zero Sep 2022 #9
He cannot tell the judicial branch what SlimJimmy Sep 2022 #10
Trump would probably love to litigate that very point. Frasier Balzov Sep 2022 #11
I think there has to be some. SlimJimmy Sep 2022 #12
Hm. Short sighted like getting rid of the filibuster? Frasier Balzov Sep 2022 #13
Frankly, yes SlimJimmy Sep 2022 #14
I don't disagree with you Jimmy. Frasier Balzov Sep 2022 #15
The fillabuster is needed to keep the right wing from ramming insane things through when in power. alphafemale Sep 2022 #16
I agree SlimJimmy Sep 2022 #17
President Biden isn't touching this investigation with a 10 foot pole. Tommy Carcetti Sep 2022 #19

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
1. No. The next move is firmly in the hands of the Justice Department.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:49 AM
Sep 2022

President Biden has said repeatedly that he's leaving it all in there hands. I think the separation-of-powers dictates that.

Good question though.

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NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
3. Can the DoJ do anything?
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:58 AM
Sep 2022

Specifically, can the DoJ do anything to counter a judge that may well be intentionally delaying all forward movement of the process until after the elections b/c Trump was fast becoming as radioactive as the SCOTUS's abortion ruling?

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
4. They get to file a response to the ruling. She's also being sued but not by DOJ.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:04 AM
Sep 2022

But she's not really helping the cause for FPOTUS, she's messed up big time based on a variety of legal opinions. She has apparently violated her scope of practice in some way but I don't know how to explain it intelligently.

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littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
6. I don't think congress has any thing to do with it.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:11 AM
Sep 2022

The ball's in DOJ's court now. At best she's stalled the process, at worst she could be sanctioned. She's definitely being sued. So that's not a good thing. ❤️

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
18. I can't find the article now. If I run across it again I'll share it.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 05:15 PM
Sep 2022

I think it was for lack of standing as she's in Florida and the case in D.C. but I can't remember exactly. I read lots in a short amount of time. Sorry. ❤️

rso

(2,271 posts)
2. RSO
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:51 AM
Sep 2022

He could, but because the order would directly challenge the Judicial Branch, the same Judicial Branch would quickly rule that Biden had usurped his authority.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,242 posts)
8. Biden has already issue a ruling the TFG is NOT covered by executive privilege
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:25 AM
Sep 2022

The Biden administarion can issue a specific order in effect addressed to this idiot judge to the effect that the Biden administration has already issued an executive order as to TFG and the executive privilege and that such order is still in effect

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
9. Maybe the DOJ will 'remind' the judge of this
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:31 AM
Sep 2022

I can see the points for Biden personally staying out of her responders.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
10. He cannot tell the judicial branch what
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:55 AM
Sep 2022

to do after they are seated as federal judges. No executive order will affect them. Of course his order on executive privilege does apply, but does not force the judge to abide by it. She can reject it and they can appeal to a higher court.

Frasier Balzov

(2,649 posts)
11. Trump would probably love to litigate that very point.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 03:34 AM
Sep 2022

Is there any residual executive privilege vested in a former president which is untouchable by the sitting administration.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
12. I think there has to be some.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:42 AM
Sep 2022

How could a sitting President get advice from close aides if the next executive could just wipe it out? We argue against it now, but it could come back to bite us later. We progressives can be so short sighted sometimes.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
14. Frankly, yes
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:53 AM
Sep 2022

Instead of playing the short game, we need to look down the road. I know, not a popular idea here at DU. But check, I've been here for a long while and have always taken the long view. But thanks for playing.

Frasier Balzov

(2,649 posts)
15. I don't disagree with you Jimmy.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 05:04 AM
Sep 2022

Abandoning the filibuster has done some damage to the judiciary. And that's a lifetime appointment long view of things.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
16. The fillabuster is needed to keep the right wing from ramming insane things through when in power.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:00 AM
Sep 2022

It should be a talking one though.

Make them work for it.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
19. President Biden isn't touching this investigation with a 10 foot pole.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 05:17 PM
Sep 2022

He doesn't want even the slightest perception he's behind it and politicizing it.

Mind you, they'll accuse him of politicizing it no matter what. But he's not going to give them free ammo.

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