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FYI: Judge Cannon is not stupid. (Original Post) madaboutharry Sep 2022 OP
I'm sure she's a loyal trumper but I think she was also afraid for her life Walleye Sep 2022 #1
I agree. KPN Sep 2022 #9
Yep she weaseled around then gave a written ruling on a holiday Walleye Sep 2022 #17
She's a Trump cult member. She has a Zombie 🧟‍♀️ brain. Funtatlaguy Sep 2022 #2
Maybe, but I've known many a lauded individual completing medical school, law school, PhDs--all hlthe2b Sep 2022 #3
That was Yale. KPN Sep 2022 #10
He also attended Harvard. hlthe2b Sep 2022 #11
I didn't know that. Thanks for nailing me on that -- I KPN Sep 2022 #14
Ben Carson? Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #42
good example. He certainly had good 'mechanical' skills as a surgeon, but... hlthe2b Sep 2022 #50
"Stupid is as Stupid Does" mackdaddy Sep 2022 #4
That all College graduates are "smart" is a myth randr Sep 2022 #5
Highly educated does not equal smart or wise. fightforfreedom Sep 2022 #6
SO true; DeSatan in Fla is a Yale/Harvard guy and I think he is a total asshat. nt allegorical oracle Sep 2022 #8
Quick cognition does not guarantee ethics or morals or emotional stability lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #35
She is corrupt, and worships the MAGAt king. Roisin Ni Fiachra Sep 2022 #7
She was been appointed by Trump for several reasons! imanamerican63 Sep 2022 #12
If you think inthewind21 Sep 2022 #37
I agree, she has obtained her desired goal, to protect Trump. She probably just increased her odds dem4decades Sep 2022 #13
she's not dumb but her stellar education is inconsequential wrapping.. agingdem Sep 2022 #15
Mitch who held a Supreme Court seat open for a year because an election might be coming up Walleye Sep 2022 #18
Yep, she's the monkey with a machine gun. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #19
but this chimp with an AK-47 agingdem Sep 2022 #23
Yes, Mitch is the one who handed the gun to the chimp. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #34
She's one of the few who was qualified by the ABA jimfields33 Sep 2022 #24
So was Bork... agingdem Sep 2022 #26
Actually most of trumps judges were rated "well qualified" onenote Sep 2022 #41
Okay! atreides1 Sep 2022 #16
I agree that it's a mistake to assume these people are stupid. yardwork Sep 2022 #20
Bingo! inthewind21 Sep 2022 #38
Yes! Their goals are actually quite straightforward. yardwork Sep 2022 #46
+1. N/T obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2022 #51
Professor Carlo M. Cipolla would disagree... Whiskeytide Sep 2022 #21
I love that. I've never seen it before, but I love it. lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #36
Someone posted it here about 4 years back, and ... Whiskeytide Sep 2022 #47
I always think about dear Abby at times like this NQAS Sep 2022 #22
Yup Johonny Sep 2022 #28
I beg to differ inthewind21 Sep 2022 #40
What do you call inthewind21 Sep 2022 #39
Kick burrowowl Sep 2022 #25
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #27
Your theory: So she drafted it poorly so that DoJ would appeal skip fox Sep 2022 #29
Trump went to Wharton edhopper Sep 2022 #30
He didn't go to Wharton. madaboutharry Sep 2022 #31
True edhopper Sep 2022 #33
And inthewind21 Sep 2022 #43
It says quite a few things actually... Caliman73 Sep 2022 #48
They are smarted edhopper Sep 2022 #49
As Wiz/Oz told the Scarecrow about degrees&Shrub said about Constitution: It's just a piece of paper UTUSN Sep 2022 #32
She Knows Where Her Bread is Buttered Deep State Witch Sep 2022 #44
Bad reflection the school. nt Samrob Sep 2022 #45

hlthe2b

(102,288 posts)
3. Maybe, but I've known many a lauded individual completing medical school, law school, PhDs--all
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:32 AM
Sep 2022

at universities and Ivy League Schools considered cream of the crop and a few were clearly "passed through" or had enough skills to "fake it" at the most important times (or connections). GWB* went to Harvard, after all. At a minimum, she is sufficiently inexperienced so as to be vulnerable to manipulation. Insecure people are particularly vulnerable.

hlthe2b

(102,288 posts)
11. He also attended Harvard.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:52 AM
Sep 2022

Education

Bush attended public schools in Midland, Texas until the family moved to Houston after he had completed seventh grade. He then spent two years at The Kinkaid School, a college-preparatory school.[8]

Bush attended high school at Phillips Academy, a boarding school in Andover, Massachusetts, where he played baseball and was the head cheerleader during his senior year.[9][10] He attended Yale University from 1964 to 1968, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts degree in history.[11] During this time, he was a cheerleader and a member of the Delta Kappa Epsilon, serving as the president of the fraternity during his senior year.[12][13][14] Bush became a member of the Skull and Bones society as a senior.[15] Bush was a rugby union player and was on Yale's 1st XV.[16] He characterized himself as an average student.[17] His GPA during his first three years at Yale was 77, and he had a similar average under a nonnumerical rating system in his final year.[18]

In the fall of 1973, Bush entered Harvard Business School. He graduated in 1975 with an MBA degree. He is the only U.S. president to have earned an MBA.[19]

hlthe2b

(102,288 posts)
50. good example. He certainly had good 'mechanical' skills as a surgeon, but...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:34 PM
Sep 2022

Not to diminish all surgeons, mind you, but the best typically are much "deeper thinkers" than Carson has shown himself to be.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
6. Highly educated does not equal smart or wise.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:34 AM
Sep 2022

Would anyone here call Alito smart or wise? He is an idiot and so is this judge.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
7. She is corrupt, and worships the MAGAt king.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:43 AM
Sep 2022

Fascists have little or no ability to be objective, and Cannon is a fascist.

imanamerican63

(13,798 posts)
12. She was been appointed by Trump for several reasons!
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:55 AM
Sep 2022

One being she is a loyal right wing Republican Trumpster! This was Trump’s and his goons’ plan ever since Trump announced his run for president, possibly before Trump even came into the political landscape picture?

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
37. If you think
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:12 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Stacking the courts was just Tumps plan, you haven't been paying attention for the past 40 years.

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
13. I agree, she has obtained her desired goal, to protect Trump. She probably just increased her odds
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:56 AM
Sep 2022

of becoming a Supreme Court justice by her actions. She ain't stupid.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
15. she's not dumb but her stellar education is inconsequential wrapping..
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:02 AM
Sep 2022

Cannon sits on the bench because she's a Federalist Society acolyte and all Trump nominees are on the bench because of Mitch McConnell's wet dream...pack the courts with less than qualified uber-right extremist judges, decimate abortion rights, marriage equality, Obamacare..unbiased free thinkers need not apply...

Cannon's reputation, her ability to judge fairly...gone!..every decision she renders will be suspect and appealed...lawyers will run from her court...and I'm betting she doesn't give a damn...

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
18. Mitch who held a Supreme Court seat open for a year because an election might be coming up
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:15 AM
Sep 2022

Made sure that this loyal Trumper was confirmed two days after he lost the election. This is not how these things are supposed to work. They have completely lost sight of what elections are for

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
19. Yep, she's the monkey with a machine gun.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:20 AM
Sep 2022

She's that chimp who was handed an AK-47 by some soldiers. It knew enough to operate the thing, but that's about it. So, it pulls the trigger and wantonly shoots up the place. That's Judge Cannon. That's Amy Coney Barratt. That's pretty much everyone Trump and the Federalist Society installed as a judge. They know just enough to be dangerous. The only difference is that it didn't occur to those soldiers that the chimp would shoot up the place. The Federalist Society INTENDS for their monkeys to destroy everything.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
23. but this chimp with an AK-47
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:33 AM
Sep 2022

Last edited Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:00 AM - Edit history (1)

managed to "bite" ol' Mitch in the ass...Mitch wanted Trump silenced, gone...far away from the midterms..he was pretty confident espionage would do it, but being the Trump humper she is, Aileen ignored the law, made some crap "law" of her own, and gave Trump a "win"...poor Mitch, not only does that rancid asshole have to tolerate Donnie's profane personal insults, the midterms is a Trump referendum...

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
34. Yes, Mitch is the one who handed the gun to the chimp.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:48 AM
Sep 2022

Just like he handed one to Coney Barratt, Kavanaugh, Gorsuck, and all others he and the Federalist Society rammed through. He was just so arrogant that he didn't think he'd eventually be dodging bullets from these idiots. He should probably expect more of bullet sprays in the near future, because he armed a lot of chimps.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
41. Actually most of trumps judges were rated "well qualified"
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:46 PM
Sep 2022

She was rated only “qualified” probably because of her lack of experience.

During his four years in office, the ABA rated 264 of Trump’s nominees; 187 were rated “well-qualified,” 67 were rated “qualified,” and 10 were rated “not qualified.”

yardwork

(61,634 posts)
20. I agree that it's a mistake to assume these people are stupid.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:22 AM
Sep 2022

We miss what's going on and underestimate them when we assume they're stupid or, in the case of Trump, have dementia.

They may or may not be stupid. Trump might have dementia. But that's not why they're doing these things. What they're doing is carefully planned. It's calculated. It's designed to get what they want, achieve their goals. Their goals are so inconceivable to those who believe in democracy and the rule of law, it's easy to assume that they're just stupid. They're not.

Is a defense attorney being stupid when she says absurd things to the jury, in an effort to confuse them and get her client off? That's not stupid. That's calculating.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
38. Bingo!
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:18 PM
Sep 2022

Or when we think, "That will never happen in the US." We've been warned for decades. The republicans made it no secret what their plans were. Well, here it is. Just as promised. Yet the country is shocked.

yardwork

(61,634 posts)
46. Yes! Their goals are actually quite straightforward.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:27 PM
Sep 2022

What part of "drown government in a bathtub, privatize all services, get rid of social security, repeal health care coverage, including Medicare and certainly Medicaid, get rid of food stamps, shut down the public school systems, including public universities (or convert them to technical schools), get rid of the U.S. postal service and U.S. weather service, ban all abortions and birth control, criminalize being gay or transgender, remove all government regulations (except the ones we want to oppress women and minorities with), repeal all state and federal environmental regulations, shut down all safety regulations, repeal child labor laws, privatize prisons, outlaw voting by mail and same-day voter registration, etc etc etc" did we miss?

It's literally in the Republican Party platform.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
21. Professor Carlo M. Cipolla would disagree...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:27 AM
Sep 2022

The five universal laws of human stupidity:

Law 1: Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.

* * *

Law 2: The probability that a certain person be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.

Cipolla posits stupidity is a variable that remains constant across all populations. Every category one can imagine—gender, race, nationality, education level, income—possesses a fixed percentage of stupid people. There are stupid college professors. There are stupid people at Davos and at the UN General Assembly. There are stupid people in every nation on earth. How numerous are the stupid amongst us? It’s impossible to say. And any guess would almost certainly violate the first law, anyway.

https://qz.com/967554/the-five-universal-laws-of-human-stupidity/amp/

Here’s the original paper by Cipolla if anyone is interested. Entertaining and eye opening. I also understand it’s been recently published as a book as well.

http://harmful.cat-v.org/people/basic-laws-of-human-stupidity/

(Edited for a typo)

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
47. Someone posted it here about 4 years back, and ...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:34 PM
Sep 2022

… I thought it explained so much about Тяцмpism and the 2016 election.

And the funniest thing is that I still can’t really tell if Cipolla wrote it, at least partly, as a joke. It certainly is both humorous and tragic.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
22. I always think about dear Abby at times like this
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:33 AM
Sep 2022

Dear Abby reminded us in a column eons ago that half of the doctors out there (and lawyers, etc.) graduated in the bottom half of their class. Just a thought.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
28. Yup
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:25 AM
Sep 2022

No one intelligent follows Trump unless they're pure evil. Likely she's a moronic cultist and self inflicted stupid as a rock.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
40. I beg to differ
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:41 PM
Sep 2022

MAGAS have damn near taken complete control of Congress. State governments are overflowing with them as well as school boards all across the country. The Supreme Court is majority RW extreme now, and we also now have 245 Federal MAGA judges with lifetime appointments seated. This is/has been a plan in the making for decades. It was no secret. It was broadcast on a regular basis. Those who stuck to the plan made a strategic bet, that they could snooker the the voting as well as the non voting public. Get us all bickering and distracted about this and that and while all that bickering and distraction nonsense was going on they would work their plan in the background. And it worked beautifully. The American voting public bought it hook line and sinker. And here we are. Shocked and dismayed about something we've known, or should have know was coming for a very long time. I wouldn't call that moronic and stupid. I'd call that calculating and disciplined.

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
29. Your theory: So she drafted it poorly so that DoJ would appeal
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:28 AM
Sep 2022

and it would take months or more to go through the courts?

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
31. He didn't go to Wharton.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:14 AM
Sep 2022

He took a couple of classes at Wharton through his major. There is a difference.

My point is that she isn’t dumb. She’s a radical and wrote a political opinion.

edhopper

(33,584 posts)
33. True
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:18 AM
Sep 2022

Like so many right-wing assholes, she tried to find bullshit justification for legally dubious opinion.

Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham and McConnell aren't dumb either, but they constantly give ridiculous justification for the fascist bullshit they try to pull.

Their arguments are either outright false or lack any logical reasoning.

And Trump went to Wharton for two years. Not just a couple of classes. He graduated from the School and has a degree. (Of course, he probably cheated and had others do his work)

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
48. It says quite a few things actually...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:47 PM
Sep 2022

It says something about the power of incumbency.

It says that for House Seats at least, the gerrymandering of districts, is a solid way of maintaining power.

It says something about how stupid (not relating to academic intelligence) supporters of said candidates are.

It says something about how money can influence turn out and hence, elections.



The leaders of the Conservative movement are not unintelligent at all. They count on the stupidity of their constituents to motivate participation, and they count on the apathy and frustration of many on our side and/or those who align with us but who choose not to participate in politics.

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)
32. As Wiz/Oz told the Scarecrow about degrees&Shrub said about Constitution: It's just a piece of paper
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:17 AM
Sep 2022

Plus look at all the wingnut M.D.(s) who are nutcase wingnuts and whatever number of prestigious credentialed persons being outrageous nutcases.








Deep State Witch

(10,427 posts)
44. She Knows Where Her Bread is Buttered
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:57 PM
Sep 2022

She was appointed in the late days of Mango Mussolini's term for just this purpose. This is the price of her being elevated to a judgeship.

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