It appears Judge Loose Cannon may have been appointed in hopes of an insurance policy for the dotard

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Trump tried -- but failed -- to put his racketeering suit against Hillary Clinton in front of Judge Aileen Cannon

Former President Donald Trump tried -- and failed -- to get his sprawling lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and other assorted political enemies before the same federal judge whose ruling in the Mar-A-Lago documents case has come under intense criticism.

The former president sued his his first presidential election rival in March, along with the Democratic National Committee, John Podesta, James Comey and many others, accusing them of conspiring to rig the 2016 election against him -- but his attorney chose to filed the case in the same South Florida federal court district where Judge Aileen Cannon sits, reports Politico.

Cannon, a Federalist Society member who was appointed by Trump in 2020, is the only judge in the Fort Pierce division, which is more than an hour's drive away from Trump's home in West Palm Beach, which has its own federal court presided over by two judges who were appointed by Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.

The lawsuit was assigned to the Clinton-appointed judge Donald Middlebrooks back in West Palm Beach, and his attorneys quickly filed a motion to disqualify him, complaining that his appointment 25 years ago by the lead defendant's husband amounted to "virulent or pervasive" bias against Trump's case.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tried-but-failed-to-put-his-racketeering-suit-against-hillary-clinton-in-front-of-judge-aileen-cannon/ar-AA11yVs2

[Irish_Dem]

1. I think he planted insurance policies everywhere.

[onenote]

2. So he wasn't guaranteed to get Cannon as the judge

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3. Moving it to that jurisdiction 72 miles...

from MRL and closer judges just about guaranteed it since she's the only judge there.

[onenote]

4. Then how come she wasn't the judge in the Clinton case referenced in the OP?

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5. The Clinton judge is the original judge.

The trump people wanted a special master to delay, delay, delay, which is always his MO to drag cases out for months, even years, which seems to always work in his favor, maybe here avoiding an impending arrest. I would surmise that they weren't sure the original judge on the case would be willing to appoint a special master, something they knew the DOJ was also opposed to.

IMO they knew she would grant the special master, as she understood, as a Federalist Society member, that that's what she was appointed to do (trump's bidding). And btw, she was appointed in the waning days of the trump admin, Dec. of 2020...sort of insurance to have Federalist Society judges in places and handy when you need them. Coney Barrett, Beer Boy and Gorsuch come to mind.

That's one thing Moscow Mitch and trump still agree on.

[onenote]

7. Huh? I think you are very confused

Earlier this year trump filed a RICO case against Hillary Clinton in the Ft Pierce division of the southern district. The speculation is that he chose that division because only one judge — Cannon — is assigned to that courthouse. But the case wasn’t assigned to Cannon. It was assigned to Judge Middlebrooks, a Bill Clinton appointee. That happened because Cannon isn’t the only judge that can be assigned cases filed in Fort Pierce.

While trump didn’t get one of “his” judges in that case, he didn’t claim that it was improper for the case to be assigned to any judge other than Cannon. Rather he argued that Middlebrooks should be disqualified because he was appointed by Bill Vlinton and thus shouldn’t hear a case against Hillary-an argument that he lost.

The fact that in the Clinton case a judge other than Cannon was assigned a case filed in the Fort Pierce division indicates that there was no guarantee that cannon would be assigned the case relating to the documents - rather it seems to indicate that if you roll the dice enough times you may eventually get the result you want.

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8. Confused? She's the only judge there...

so the chances of getting her and asking for a special master was pretty good. Sound kinda like judge shopping.

[onenote]

11. She was the "only" judge when trump sued Hillary in fort pierce but she wasn't assigned the case.

It was assigned to a different judge who isn’t assigned to the Fort Pierce courthouse. Multiple judges, assigned to other divisions, are in the “pool” of judges from which an assignment to a case is made.

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14. Two different cases. They knew they had a good chance of getting her...

and they did and she came through for them.

[onenote]

16. The "chances" were the same.

Yes, he got what he was hoping for but it was no more guaranteed than in the case where he didn’t get Cannon. Two cases. Both filed in Fort Pierce. One assigned to Middlebrooks. One assigned to Cannon. It was a roll of the dice both times.

[brush]

17. This is from another post on this thread.

Cannon, a Federalist Society member who was appointed by Trump in 2020, is the only judge in the Fort Pierce division, which is more than an hour's drive away from Trump's home in West Palm Beach, which has its own federal court presided over by two judges who were appointed by Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.

Sure seems to me they went judge shopping in Fort Pierce.

Why is it so important to you to prove that they didn't?

[onenote]

18. I didn't say they weren't trying to get her. Just that they weren't guaranteed to get her.

[brush]

19. Come on, ya gotta admit since she was the only on in...

Fort Pierce, they knew they were going to get her.

[onenote]

22. How many times do I have to point this out:

She was the only judge in Fort Pierce when Trump filed his RICO case against Hillary, but that case wasn't assigned to her. So please explain how they could "know" they'd get her this time? The fact that she is the only judge assigned to sit in Fort Pierce doesn't mean that every case filed in Fort Pierce gets assigned to her, as proven by the example of the Clinton case.

It's not that hard a concept: they wanted her, felt that they had a chance of getting her, but she wasn't the only judge in the pool from which cases brought in Fort Pierce are assigned. They took their best shot and unlike the Clinton case, this time they got what they were hoping for (not what they "knew" they'd get).

[brush]

23. No more please. We already when thru this in earlier posts.

It's obviously important to you. I don't give a fu_K. I give a fuck that the traitor/spy got the judge he wanted to grant a special master to delay the DOJ from carrying out their criminal espionage investigation and possibly being about to arrest his ass.

[onenote]

24. Well, I can at least hope that you've been educated enough to understand the difference between a

guaranteed result and a desired result.

[brush]

25. Leave it alone dude. If she was only judge in Fort Pierce...

that's who they were going to get.

Not hard to understand. We disagree.

[onenote]

26. Why should I give it up. You're the one who can't explain how Cannon wasn't assigned

in the Clinton case where she also was the 'only judge in Fort Pierce".

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28. Again, they went judge shopping. They had a very good chance...

or getting Cannon since she's the only federal judge in Ft. Pierce. It worked.

Ask the supervising judge why they didn't get her on the Clinton suit.

[onenote]

29. I've acknowledged they were shopping and wanted to get Cannon

But there is a difference between trying to get a particular judge and being guaranteed of getting a particular judge. They did the former by going to a court where the pool of judges (which consists not only of Cannon but of certain other judges from other divisions who are included in the Ft. Pierce pool in order to prevent the one judge assigned to the Ft. Pierce courthouse from being assigned every case filed with that court) is smaller than the pool of judges is in some of the other districts; but they weren't guaranteed that it would end up being Cannon rather than one of the other judges assigned to the Ft. Pierce pool.

[bluestarone]

30. Just saying i respect your thoughts on our site! I'm also confused.

I'm not sure who made a statement, that the TFG, was very lucky to get THIS judge, because their were many judges their to chose from. NOW, i understand that THIS judge was the ONLY one there? TFG's team MUST have known this, right? How did they know? Is it normal to know what judges are available, and where they are? Something STINKS real bad in my eyes! The only answer that comes to my mind is they (TFG's team JUDGE SHOPPED)! Is this legal? (because i do not know) TY for your discussions on this site!!

[BootinUp]

9. It was just random chance that she did not

Get the Clinton case. I posted an earlier thread and if you read the judges comments that is how he described it.

[msfiddlestix]

6. Not exactly guaranteed, but odds were in his favor, he was able to get a Clinton appointed judge

on that panel dismissed in his previous lawsuit on grounds for a biased Clinton appointee.

[onenote]

10. Wrong as you can possibly be

He TRIED to get a Clinton appointed judge disqualified from hearing his case against Hillary Clinton. But he FAILED. Judge Middlebrooks rejected Trump’s motion that he step aside and is still the judge presiding on that case

[msfiddlestix]

12. oops.. duplicate

[msfiddlestix]

13. Did I misread the excerpt of the article?

[onenote]

21. Apparently so. Here's a link to the judge's order denying the motion.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21580290-trump-v-clinton-order-denying-motion-for-disqualification


It's also informative for those who think the mere fact that Cannon was appointed by Trump means she should have recused herself. As Judge Middlebrooks wrote:"The law is well settled that appointment to the bench by a litigant, without more, will not “create in reasonable minds, with knowledge of all the relevant circumstances that a reasonable inquiry would disclose, a perception that [the judge’s] ability to carry out judicial responsibilities with integrity, impartiality, and competence [would be] impaired.”

As pointed out elsewhere, he went shopping for a judge, as he did in the Clinton case. In that case, he didn't get the judge he wanted, and this case he did. He rolled the dice and came up empty once, but not the second time. Sure it sucks, but if there was something "more" to warrant Cannon's disqualification, DOJ would have moved to disqualify her or for a change of venue. The fact that they did neither of those things suggests that there is no legal basis to challenge her assignment.

[msfiddlestix]

27. ok, I stand corrected, thank you for the link and further info.

[maxsolomon]

15. Fascists corrupt the Judiciary.

It happens in every Autocracy.

[Sneederbunk]

20. Took the loyalty pledge.

[Kaleva]

31. This assumes TFG has brains and can plan ahead