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Can we arrest Dumbo as a material witness and bypass the Cannon fuckyou? (Original Post) librechik Sep 2022 OP
Hypothetically, yes. Ocelot II Sep 2022 #1
Just arrest SOMEBODY RussBLib Sep 2022 #2
It's infuriating librechik Sep 2022 #6
Do they not have enough evidence to arrest him? Wingus Dingus Sep 2022 #3
So you want him to be a material witness against himself? rsdsharp Sep 2022 #4
He could be a material witness against a bunch of other people, though. Ocelot II Sep 2022 #7
You think he's not going to plead the fifth in that situation? rsdsharp Sep 2022 #10
Nope. I think they can get the henchmen without TFG's help Ocelot II Sep 2022 #11
oh, so that's it. Well, there has to be another way. librechik Sep 2022 #8
Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2022 #5
Thanks, H2O man. I was getting very depressed about the notion of appeal. librechik Sep 2022 #9
Arrest some cheeseburgers. GreenWave Sep 2022 #12

Ocelot II

(115,714 posts)
1. Hypothetically, yes.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:14 PM
Sep 2022

18 U.S.C. § 3144, the material witness statute, says:

If it appears from an affidavit filed by a party that the testimony of a person is material in a criminal proceeding, and if it is shown that it may become impracticable to secure the presence of the person by subpoena, a judicial officer may order the arrest of the person and treat the person in accordance with the provisions of section 3142 of this title. No material witness may be detained because of inability to comply with any condition of release if the testimony of such witness can adequately be secured by deposition, and if further detention is not necessary to prevent a failure of justice. Release of a material witness may be delayed for a reasonable period of time until the deposition of the witness can be taken pursuant to the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.


I doubt it will happen, but if it did it sure would be fun to watch.

Wingus Dingus

(8,054 posts)
3. Do they not have enough evidence to arrest him?
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:15 PM
Sep 2022

Because if the rest of us had this shit sitting in our basement, we'd be making our one phone call from the police station.

rsdsharp

(9,182 posts)
4. So you want him to be a material witness against himself?
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:16 PM
Sep 2022

I don’t believe the Fifth Amendment would allow that.

Ocelot II

(115,714 posts)
7. He could be a material witness against a bunch of other people, though.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:19 PM
Sep 2022

But I don't think it would take the threat of arrest for him to blame other people for his predicament because that's what he does anyhow. Realistically it won't happen, but it's amusing to contemplate.

Ocelot II

(115,714 posts)
11. Nope. I think they can get the henchmen without TFG's help
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:28 PM
Sep 2022

although if he could blame them without incriminating himself he'd do it in a heartbeat. "I didn't pack those documents, Meadows took care of all of that. And the lawyers. And Jared. And the moving company. I never saw any of it. I didn't know they were there. It's a hoax."

librechik

(30,674 posts)
8. oh, so that's it. Well, there has to be another way.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:19 PM
Sep 2022

Maybe Dumbo could spill on Meadows. SOMEBODY handed him dozens of boxes full of documents. And planned the whole caper. Dumbo no can think good.

H2O Man

(73,556 posts)
5. Recommended.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:17 PM
Sep 2022

I'm confident that the DOJ will handle this in the best way possible. This might include asking Cannon to alter her decision in areas where she definitely erred. That, I suspect, would be the first step before an appeal. Her "logic" is so weak in the ruling that I've yet to hear any expert on federal law say that it is anything other than pathetic.

GreenWave

(6,757 posts)
12. Arrest some cheeseburgers.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:54 PM
Sep 2022

Put up a warning sign! Do not eat these.

Video camera will catch him in the act!

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