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First look at Obama's portrait painted by Robert McCurdy (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2022 OP
WOW Me. Sep 2022 #1
+1 rogue emissary Sep 2022 #55
+2 proud patriot Sep 2022 #109
+3 lostnfound Sep 2022 #157
+4 TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #173
+5 MustLoveBeagles Sep 2022 #174
I like it. Elegant. Like the man Walleye Sep 2022 #2
Yes. Straight on, here's looking at you. White background? He chose this artist for his other work Hekate Sep 2022 #74
So do I Rebl2 Sep 2022 #115
If so it looks like he's standing on the big white paper background rolls that are sometimes used electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #149
Well-said!! ailsagirl Sep 2022 #126
rly? a blank background? mopinko Sep 2022 #3
Here's Michelle's Nevilledog Sep 2022 #6
Love it!!! secondwind Sep 2022 #8
The artist really captures her beautiful arms. Aristus Sep 2022 #18
And graceful hands. tblue37 Sep 2022 #78
Beautiful. Both of them. Calming elegance question everything Sep 2022 #23
Weren't those for the National Gallery? kskiska Sep 2022 #49
yes, the National Portrait Gallery Celerity Sep 2022 #63
those were for the National Portrait Gallery, not the White House Celerity Sep 2022 #58
Do all first couples have two, or more portraits, one for the W.H., others question everything Sep 2022 #132
yes Celerity Sep 2022 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author kskiska Sep 2022 #64
I would have preferred those to the White House portraits. LudwigPastorius Sep 2022 #65
The National Portrait Gallery one of Michelle doesn't even look like her, imo. ShazzieB Sep 2022 #114
I agree with your comparison of the two portraits spooky3 Sep 2022 #125
me too. nt barbtries Sep 2022 #98
I was wondering the same thing. lobointexas Sep 2022 #147
I got to see these Dorian Gray Sep 2022 #176
She looks challenging. Intelligent. Glamorous. I love it. Hekate Sep 2022 #56
There's a hint of sauciness about Michelle's portrait...feminine yet taking care of business. nt allegorical oracle Sep 2022 #70
Lovely.. msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #99
Why not? secondwind Sep 2022 #7
cuz he's the 1st black president, and this is for history. mopinko Sep 2022 #13
I kind of feel like he is so stately he doesn't need a background. Maraya1969 Sep 2022 #25
Agree. And I am sure that he had a say in this question everything Sep 2022 #30
I agree. See my #50. wnylib Sep 2022 #51
McCurdy paints subjects focused right back at the viewer. No distractions, just the subject. nt allegorical oracle Sep 2022 #72
Yes, no background means no background distractions. I like it. William Seger Sep 2022 #82
What setting do you think would be appropriate? wnylib Sep 2022 #39
some itty bitty illusion to the wh, maybe. mopinko Sep 2022 #121
Do you think that the presence of the portrait in the WH wnylib Sep 2022 #139
i think a painting better stand on it's own. mopinko Sep 2022 #141
The contrast to the other portraits PlutosHeart Sep 2022 #159
This message was self-deleted by its author PlutosHeart Sep 2022 #160
I see Obama's complexity in this portrait. wnylib Sep 2022 #50
Yea. He stands alone and stands out. I like it. Maraya1969 Sep 2022 #53
I agree completely msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #102
Ah! I see what you mean... Formal and informal mix 👍 electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #152
In historical context, an all-white background seems perfect (n/t) William Seger Sep 2022 #83
THIS -- he's in what was formerly an all-white club. Qutzupalotl Sep 2022 #108
Tan would have been fun, but black is dramatic William Seger Sep 2022 #123
Definitely dramatic, and striking! electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #155
i would buy that if it wasnt his rigid style. mopinko Sep 2022 #124
it has nothing to do w the subject. mopinko Sep 2022 #140
I know, I've seen his work William Seger Sep 2022 #165
Ha, interesting! electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #154
I'd suggest that the 'all-white' background alludes to that history pretty appropriately, tbh.. Volaris Sep 2022 #167
except that's the guys sop. mopinko Sep 2022 #168
and as a painter, mopinko Sep 2022 #169
Themes vary. Not all WH portraits are the same lostnfound Sep 2022 #180
i dont hate his other work, tho mopinko Sep 2022 #182
The use of black and white in the portrait immediately struck me as an allusion to that. whopis01 Sep 2022 #184
that isnt the artist's choice, it's obama's. mopinko Sep 2022 #185
All I did was state what I see when I look at the painting. whopis01 Sep 2022 #188
well, i think my 2cents here i useful, mopinko Sep 2022 #192
I personally love it obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #62
Maybe it's a couple centuries of white background for the 1st Black President. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #68
Agree..the stark white background (the past) combined with the photorealistic image (the future). nt PunkinPi Sep 2022 #79
I could be wrong, but I think I get it. Grokenstein Sep 2022 #112
Agree they don't match. But they aren't hung together are they? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2022 #134
Obama chose Robert McCurdy who is known for that. progressoid Sep 2022 #144
It's art, dahling. Embrace it. Politicub Sep 2022 #145
i'm a trained painter. i reject it. mopinko Sep 2022 #148
Stark ain't bad Bucky Sep 2022 #195
well, it's sort of like- meis was fine, it's the imitators that blow. mopinko Sep 2022 #196
Boring Cartoonist Sep 2022 #4
Perhaps Obama did not want a smile in the photograph secondwind Sep 2022 #12
Did he want a background? Cartoonist Sep 2022 #15
If he did, he would have chosen a painter who typically does them tishaLA Sep 2022 #57
He was a great POTUS, and a huge inspiration to those secondwind Sep 2022 #5
Looks more like a photo but I like it underpants Sep 2022 #9
it looks like a passport photo. mopinko Sep 2022 #14
That is Rebl2 Sep 2022 #118
They are both wonderful likenesses! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2022 #10
Wow! Metaphorical Sep 2022 #11
It captures him well Sanity Claws Sep 2022 #16
Wow blm Sep 2022 #17
no wonder trump wanted it hidden samnsara Sep 2022 #19
I like it ornotna Sep 2022 #20
minimizing the 1st black prez. who is this painter? mopinko Sep 2022 #21
ok, i did a bit more googling. mopinko Sep 2022 #29
Minimizing? There is nothing in the portrait to compete with Barack. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #80
+1 Celerity Sep 2022 #93
lol Celerity Sep 2022 #89
+💯 SergeStorms Sep 2022 #129
+1 Celerity Sep 2022 #130
How do you figure this is minimizing Obama? I think it's babylonsister Sep 2022 #107
i never see art in that style. mopinko Sep 2022 #119
:) We all experience art personally, so we can like, not like, all fine. Hortensis Sep 2022 #133
i'm a trained artist, so... mopinko Sep 2022 #138
You do bring something extra to it. I'd hate it if it was mostly Hortensis Sep 2022 #150
he reminds me of jeff koons. mopinko Sep 2022 #151
Lol, had to look him up -- Oh, the balloon dogs! Just imagine your Hortensis Sep 2022 #156
Looks weird. Almost like the times we're in. Depressing, shadowed on one side. Slumped posture. tman Sep 2022 #22
Yeah moose65 Sep 2022 #104
Striking. Stunning. tishaLA Sep 2022 #24
not crazy about it. this seems to be this artist's style though if you look at his other portraits. IcyPeas Sep 2022 #26
thx for the link- mopinko Sep 2022 #33
"Presidents and first ladies typically select tishaLA Sep 2022 #45
i guess his humility led him to pick this guy. i think that's a shame. mopinko Sep 2022 #120
While I've enjoyed the theatrics up and down the thread BannonsLiver Sep 2022 #161
i'm not a critic. i'm a painter. a figurative painter. mopinko Sep 2022 #170
You do float a body in space PlutosHeart Sep 2022 #163
it's possible he was chosen because obama wanted to be portrayed this way. mopinko Sep 2022 #171
Thanks for sharing ecstatic Sep 2022 #136
You're right about his style, ALL of the portraits on the linked page are the same. Abolishinist Sep 2022 #137
I like it. Lars39 Sep 2022 #27
My thoughts exactly.. luvs2sing Sep 2022 #35
Black in a sea of white (both literally and figuratively). demmiblue Sep 2022 #28
The Obamas would have approved the portraits yellowdogintexas Sep 2022 #31
it's typical of this artist: IcyPeas Sep 2022 #36
For those who are curious about the JFK portrait... Abolishinist Sep 2022 #172
I like it but... suncat Sep 2022 #32
no. mopinko Sep 2022 #37
It is near photo realism alphafemale Sep 2022 #34
Yes the face is very well done FakeNoose Sep 2022 #60
Even Better Now with PJB in Cha Sep 2022 #38
I like it but... suncat Sep 2022 #40
I like it. Striking and singular. Memorable. I like Michelle's portrait, too. highplainsdem Sep 2022 #41
At first I thought it was a photo The Third Doctor Sep 2022 #42
I like the humanism in it. herding cats Sep 2022 #43
Should have worn the tan suit instead stumpysbear Sep 2022 #44
I wish he had worn a tan suit. LoisB Sep 2022 #46
Stunning! Lunabell Sep 2022 #47
I find them disappointing Random Boomer Sep 2022 #48
My gods, this is a wonderful moment Hekate Sep 2022 #52
2 Cents DET Sep 2022 #54
I'm with you. happy feet Sep 2022 #92
Love them both, especially his obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #59
It's not particularly impressive. tavernier Sep 2022 #61
You do of course understand... jmowreader Sep 2022 #66
Looks like a photo Demovictory9 Sep 2022 #67
Easy elegance, and a humble smile. lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #69
I'm surprised the painter shadowed half of his face as if its an underexposed poorly lit photo SYFROYH Sep 2022 #71
Light & darkness, our times, he brought us so much light & we went into darkness, hope & change Hekate Sep 2022 #77
I want them back in the White House someday! Bluesaph Sep 2022 #73
Such a handsome man!! I miss his voice most of all Peacetrain Sep 2022 #75
Who is the best clown artist? Oldtimeralso Sep 2022 #76
Love Obama Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #81
Spectacular! MontanaMama Sep 2022 #84
I loved Michelle's portrait as well, it is incredibly classy. Bev54 Sep 2022 #85
They both look stern and grim. Demobrat Sep 2022 #86
To me, it captures the intersection of his strength and his dignity. Torchlight Sep 2022 #87
Like the man, he put a lot of white behind him. Harker Sep 2022 #88
Yes. I thought that at first glance and it struck me as brilliant. Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #96
That was my second thought. Harker Sep 2022 #100
I love that he had to be talked out of it. Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #103
That's classic stuff. I needed a laugh. Harker Sep 2022 #113
Love both portraits... Spazito Sep 2022 #90
Kick because I can Never Cha Sep 2022 #91
I love both of them. And their portraits are perfect to me. Scrivener7 Sep 2022 #94
Looks like a photograph. sinkingfeeling Sep 2022 #95
BEAUTIFUL! msfiddlestix Sep 2022 #97
A big enough improvement over the portrait gallery pics Rocknation Sep 2022 #101
Absolutely stunning! gademocrat7 Sep 2022 #105
I'd prefer a less glaring background, but that's my near blindness talking Warpy Sep 2022 #106
Awesome! Looks like a photograph. nt Samrob Sep 2022 #110
He should have worn the tan suit. The Jungle 1 Sep 2022 #111
Very classy. BigmanPigman Sep 2022 #116
I love both portraits. R&K 🥰 MerryBlooms Sep 2022 #117
Pretty damn good. SlimJimmy Sep 2022 #122
He should have worn the tan suit. SergeStorms Sep 2022 #127
yes Celerity Sep 2022 #146
Making a bespoke suit for Trump.... SergeStorms Sep 2022 #166
OMG! Great pic of Obama. He's so friggin' handsome! BComplex Sep 2022 #193
I'm disappointed BO didn't go with a tan suit. Hassler Sep 2022 #128
Literally the Finest president Eva!💜💜💜💜 Heather MC Sep 2022 #131
I guess I would need to see the other portraits first ecstatic Sep 2022 #135
I like that actually. PlutosHeart Sep 2022 #164
tht's what a President and Statesman looks like onethatcares Sep 2022 #143
K&R UTUSN Sep 2022 #153
LOVE THIS! onecaliberal Sep 2022 #158
Pardon my American purr-rat beauty Sep 2022 #162
I don't really like it. betsuni Sep 2022 #175
Amazing painting! Looks like a photograph. Emile Sep 2022 #177
This portrait knocked my socks off! Niagara Sep 2022 #178
never have I had such an emotional reaction to a portrait Deb Sep 2022 #179
If it's going to be photorealistic Danascot Sep 2022 #181
I like his painted portrait a lot but I love Michelle's version. lark Sep 2022 #183
I can appreciate the skill and craft that is used to create this image however Handler Sep 2022 #186
Outstanding. (nt) Paladin Sep 2022 #187
Have to be honest, I don't much care for it. CanonRay Sep 2022 #189
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ - Video of the artists - and the curators Lucinda Sep 2022 #190
Best Portraits Ever!! Sane1 Sep 2022 #191
That is amazing wendyb-NC Sep 2022 #194

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
74. Yes. Straight on, here's looking at you. White background? He chose this artist for his other work
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:57 PM
Sep 2022

…from what he said.

Rebl2

(13,516 posts)
115. So do I
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:28 PM
Sep 2022

I guess, from what I understood, this painter likes to paint a portrait to look like a photograph.

electric_blue68

(14,906 posts)
149. If so it looks like he's standing on the big white paper background rolls that are sometimes used
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:44 PM
Sep 2022

in a photo studio shoot.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
132. Do all first couples have two, or more portraits, one for the W.H., others
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 05:53 PM
Sep 2022

for the National Gallery and other places?

Celerity

(43,399 posts)
142. yes
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:21 PM
Sep 2022

America’s Presidents

https://npg.si.edu/exhibition/americas-presidents-reopened

The nation’s only complete collection of presidential portraits outside the White House, this exhibition lies at the heart of the Portrait Gallery’s mission to tell the American story through the individuals who have shaped it.

“America’s Presidents” is newly refurbished with improved lighting and paint, new labels and wall texts, and the addition of interactive touch screens that allow people to explore the context of each presidency and access other visual material. The new, entirely bilingual (English and Spanish) and accessible presentation includes extraordinary works of art, notably Gilbert Stuart’s “Lansdowne” portrait of President George Washington.

Having designed a fresh exhibition layout for “America’s Presidents,” the Portrait Gallery has grouped the portraits into six historical chapters. Each of the first five sections is organized around a historical era and leads off with a presidential figure: Washington, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, while a sixth section examines the more recent history of the presidency. Updated content provides visitors with improved ways to understand historical events—both national and international—that coincided with the respective President’s time in office.


https://americaspresidents.si.edu/gallery

Response to question everything (Reply #23)

LudwigPastorius

(9,150 posts)
65. I would have preferred those to the White House portraits.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:46 PM
Sep 2022

The McCurdy of Obama is just...bland.

And, the one of Michelle makes her look remote and aloof.

While they are realistic visual representations, I don't think either one captures their inner essence.

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
114. The National Portrait Gallery one of Michelle doesn't even look like her, imo.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:27 PM
Sep 2022

Sorry, but it doesn't work for me. Love the dress but to me the face seems kind of wooden and not really "her." Skin tone seems off, too. To each their own, I guess.

I love both portraits of Obama and the WH one of Michelle.

lobointexas

(85 posts)
147. I was wondering the same thing.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:31 PM
Sep 2022

I was in Washington D.C. this summer, and we visited the National Portrait Gallery. Unfortunately, President Obama's portrait was not available because it was "on tour" at the time. I assumed it was the official portrait that was on tour and I was upset that I didn't get to see it.

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
176. I got to see these
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 06:24 AM
Sep 2022

at the Brooklyn museum last year. The write up about the symbolism in both was fascinating.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
13. cuz he's the 1st black president, and this is for history.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:00 PM
Sep 2022

so, set him in SOME setting that at least ALLUDES to that. this is just malpractice. the art critics will be in a shooting war.
this is not the job where you do what you do. this is a commission and an important 1.
it's fing half done. and half baked.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
25. I kind of feel like he is so stately he doesn't need a background.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:09 PM
Sep 2022

He fills out the entire canvass all by himself.

wnylib

(21,479 posts)
139. Do you think that the presence of the portrait in the WH
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:17 PM
Sep 2022

next to portraits of other presidents might give a clue?

PlutosHeart

(1,280 posts)
159. The contrast to the other portraits
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:26 PM
Sep 2022

is going to be stunning in many ways. Am all in for his portrait. Fantastic statement.

Response to wnylib (Reply #139)

wnylib

(21,479 posts)
50. I see Obama's complexity in this portrait.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:36 PM
Sep 2022

Dignified and formal in his clothing and facial expression, informal and human in his pose.

A man whose dignity allows him to stand alone and stand out, without needing props.

Qutzupalotl

(14,313 posts)
108. THIS -- he's in what was formerly an all-white club.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:16 PM
Sep 2022

The only color in the portrait is his skin.

I would have gone with the tan suit, but that's why I'm not in politics.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
124. i would buy that if it wasnt his rigid style.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:41 PM
Sep 2022

you have to have a recognizable style. but when it never changes, never wavers, there's no art there. it's mechanics.
not suitable for such a 1 of a kind human, imnsho.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
165. I know, I've seen his work
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:31 PM
Sep 2022

I was just responding to the post saying the background doesn't reflect Obama's historical significance. If nothing else, the style is unique among presidential portraits, which is fitting. Anyway, I rather like it.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
182. i dont hate his other work, tho
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 08:24 AM
Sep 2022

i still dont rly think it's art. i did find more about the guy. it's an arduous process, but he puts nothing of himself into it. that it is laborious just makes it more craft.

it will stand out, that's true. and he chose the guy. but i think his humility got the better of him.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
184. The use of black and white in the portrait immediately struck me as an allusion to that.
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 08:51 AM
Sep 2022

The lone black man standing in front of a white background.
The white shirt and white tie against the dark suit.
The lighting on face, strongly from one side.

I see the separation of white and black between him and the past behind him, along with a joining of both in his attire and lighting.

Personally, I think it is fantastic.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
185. that isnt the artist's choice, it's obama's.
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 08:54 AM
Sep 2022

that's all this guy does. maybe obama saw it that way, but dont credit the painter for that. it's all the guy knows.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
188. All I did was state what I see when I look at the painting.
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 10:35 AM
Sep 2022

I'm not asking you to agree with it. I'm not deciding who should or who shouldn't get credit for it.

I'm just looking at a painting and expressing my thoughts about it.

All in all, I like the portrait. If you don't, that is just as valid as my opinion.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
192. well, i think my 2cents here i useful,
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 11:43 AM
Sep 2022

since i am a painter myself. and since i appear to be the only one not on the bandwagon.
and yes, i do have an ax here. when men do this sort of thing it's high art, but women who do fiber, or anything similarly mechanical, it's not art at all.

the art world continues to be sexist, white male dominated, and of all things, art should be free of such.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
144. Obama chose Robert McCurdy who is known for that.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:27 PM
Sep 2022

Google his paintings but don't try to access the painter's website. It's down due to too much traffic.

Bucky

(54,014 posts)
195. Stark ain't bad
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 01:22 PM
Sep 2022

It's an interesting choice. Personally I like the Kehinde Wiley portrait better. But the "consumed by shrubbery" look would be a lot more controversial hanging in the White House.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
196. well, it's sort of like- meis was fine, it's the imitators that blow.
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 01:35 PM
Sep 2022

i find it sorta sad that he chose to set himself in blankness instead of history.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
14. it looks like a passport photo.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:01 PM
Sep 2022

or the kind you take to shop into another background.

jeez, i hate it.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
21. minimizing the 1st black prez. who is this painter?
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:05 PM
Sep 2022

i just checked a couple articles, and didnt see anything about him. i'll go look, but imho this is a bloody crime.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
29. ok, i did a bit more googling.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:12 PM
Sep 2022

this is the dude's schtick, so this is on whoever picked him.
but srsly dude, put a little wash, a little light, a little depth.

it's hard to sort cuz of the other 2 paintings.

Celerity

(43,399 posts)
89. lol
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 03:53 PM
Sep 2022
minimizing the 1st black prez


imho this is a bloody crime


You do realise that Obama himself had complete control over the whole process?



BTW, I LOVE the painting.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
129. +💯
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 05:04 PM
Sep 2022

Like you said, each president has complete control over the artist and tone of their official portrait. Same with the First Lady.

I think it's magnificent. 😊

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
119. i never see art in that style.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:35 PM
Sep 2022

i dont see the artist at all.
at least he can paint from a photo, which a lot of ppl cant.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
133. :) We all experience art personally, so we can like, not like, all fine.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 05:55 PM
Sep 2022

It's not my favorite style. But imagine this portrait in situ in the WH. I'm thinking it will dominate its setting, and he will command attention.

"What I love about Robert's work is that he paints people exactly the way they are, for better or worse," Barack told a lively crowd after the unveiling. "You'll note that he refused to hide any of my gray hairs, refused my request to make my ears smaller. He also talked me out of wearing a tan suit."

Lol, I don't think so.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
138. i'm a trained artist, so...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:17 PM
Sep 2022

so i experience it professionally. there's a lotta ppl out there who stick to a formula, and phone it in. this guy is 1.
it's the utter lack of insight or inspiration here. this isnt art. it's craft.

i get it he picked him, but i think his humility got the better of him.
that doesnt excuse this sterile, lazy bullshit.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
150. You do bring something extra to it. I'd hate it if it was mostly
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:45 PM
Sep 2022

a shallow schtick, an artistic scam that fills a niche. I hope we'll see all their official portraits within a couple of years. Maybe it'll be more "wow" in person.

I wouldn't even consider the artist, though. I want paintings to offer something different, and my own humility would seek a little generosity from the artist too.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
151. he reminds me of jeff koons.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:47 PM
Sep 2022

and honestly, of how rotten that world is. to the core.
they teach you in art school that you have to be consistent, to have a style. too never offer disparate styles. which, ya know, it what i thought the point was.
guess it's why i didnt last.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
156. Lol, had to look him up -- Oh, the balloon dogs! Just imagine your
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:59 PM
Sep 2022

spouse springing one of THOSE on you.

It's always unfortunate when rigid thinking's in control, but in art! The opinions of office managers on staple placement have much less scope to stifle individuality (and in that sort of case maybe could do some rare good).

tman

(983 posts)
22. Looks weird. Almost like the times we're in. Depressing, shadowed on one side. Slumped posture.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:05 PM
Sep 2022

Can't say I'm impressed.

moose65

(3,167 posts)
104. Yeah
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:07 PM
Sep 2022

Half of his face is in shadow. Is that supposed to be some type of symbolism? It doesn't do anything for me, but then I'm not usually consulted for White House portraits.

IcyPeas

(21,884 posts)
26. not crazy about it. this seems to be this artist's style though if you look at his other portraits.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:11 PM
Sep 2022

it all looks kind of grey to me. blah

https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/robert-mccurdy-portraits

here's a click through of all the presidential portraits:

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/galleries/presidential-portraits

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
33. thx for the link-
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:17 PM
Sep 2022

i didnt want to guess his color, but i sorta knew.
what.the.actual.fuck.

who picked this clown? i'm not a fan of photo realism, in general, but this just feels lazy.
i mean, i painted figures. i didnt love the background part of the job, they were minimal. but you just dont float a body in space and pretend there's any art in there anywhere. esp this man.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
45. "Presidents and first ladies typically select
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:27 PM
Sep 2022

heir respective artists before leaving the White House"

Pres Obama seems to be a fan of his work

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
161. While I've enjoyed the theatrics up and down the thread
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:40 PM
Sep 2022

really, few people care what art critics have to say about this piece. I know I don’t.

PlutosHeart

(1,280 posts)
163. You do float a body in space
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:49 PM
Sep 2022

if you make the choice to focus upon the person encapsulated in a contained given space and use that as a narrative.
And perhaps that is why Obama chose him. The isolated aspect. The focus not on material items but on the person.

Imagine if one were to look at the artist's work you would end up comparing "how" he made decisions on each personality.

Everyone has different tastes of course. I think it was a particularly gutsy move to choose this portraitist. Especially when it will be hanging next to the others. To me "take a picture" is how I feel about normal portraits. But this....this is different.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
171. it's possible he was chosen because obama wanted to be portrayed this way.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:10 PM
Sep 2022

but the artist gets no credit for anything but cranking our 1 more edition of his usual.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
136. Thanks for sharing
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:13 PM
Sep 2022

Yeah, after viewing the other presidential photos, President Obama's portrait is a big wtf moment for me. I think there should have been more color but to each his/her own.

Abolishinist

(1,300 posts)
137. You're right about his style, ALL of the portraits on the linked page are the same.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:17 PM
Sep 2022

The distance from the top of the painting to the subject's head, where he cuts the body off at the same point between the hips and the knees, the amount of 'whitespace' on each side of the person. The right side of the subject's face (from the viewer's perspective) in the light, and the left side in shadow. One really knows what to expect from him, for better or worse.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
27. I like it.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:12 PM
Sep 2022

It forces you to look at the man. The black man. I see sorrow and strength, regret and hope.
His character revealed by his face.
No distractions, just the man.

demmiblue

(36,858 posts)
28. Black in a sea of white (both literally and figuratively).
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:12 PM
Sep 2022

I like it!

It also serves as a nice contrast to his portrait hanging in the National Portrait Gallery.





yellowdogintexas

(22,256 posts)
31. The Obamas would have approved the portraits
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:16 PM
Sep 2022

Go look at the JFK portrait. It was criticized at the time because it was not traditional and didn't show his face. Mrs Kennedy approved it.

If President Obama had wanted a background there would be one..

Abolishinist

(1,300 posts)
172. For those who are curious about the JFK portrait...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:44 PM
Sep 2022


Painted years after Kennedy's tragic death, the aesthetic of the painting was shaped by the president's widow, Jackie. "The only stipulation she made," Shikler told People in 1981, "was, ‘I don’t want him to look the way everybody else makes him look, with the bags under his eyes and that penetrating gaze. I’m tired of that image.'"

Shikler turned to photographs of the late president to prepare the initial sketches, but he eventually choose an image of Ted Kennedy at his brother's grave, to serve as a loose inspiration for the work. According to People, "When Jackie saw the sketch, she chose it over several others at once. 'Let’s do this one,'" she said.

But the style of the painting wasn't meant to evoke Kennedy's death.

"I painted him with his head bowed, not because I think of him as a martyr, but because I wanted to show him as a president who was a thinker," Mr. Shikler told The Washington Post in 1971. "A thinking president is a rare thing."
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I find it absolutely stunning.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
37. no.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:21 PM
Sep 2022

i always thought this style was dumb. painting a photo. like the photog did the work, you put zero art into it, and i'm supposed to be impressed.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
34. It is near photo realism
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:17 PM
Sep 2022

And the white backgrond is going to make it pop againsnt others.

Captures the spark in his eyes.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
60. Yes the face is very well done
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:43 PM
Sep 2022

I'm afraid this white background will give the photo-shoppers an easy target. They won't even have to silhouette him because the work is already done. So I wish the artist had used some kind of official-looking background, just to make Obama look more "Presidential."

Even so, Obama is a great-looking man.

suncat

(41 posts)
40. I like it but...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:23 PM
Sep 2022

he looks sad and both hands in his pockets seems odd, almost too casual.

It is really a very beautiful painting, it just doesn't seem to be right for this situation.

Or am I missing the point?

Oh, maybe ...

The whole painting in in grey scale, except his face... what does this mean? And the way his face is half in shadow makes me imagine that he is coming into the light... it is kind of exciting.

The more I reflect the more I really like it!

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
43. I like the humanism in it.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:26 PM
Sep 2022

He feels real, bearing the burden of the office yet persevering. Looking at us in the eyes, leading us as a peer and another human being, yet not above us.

Just my first impression.

Random Boomer

(4,168 posts)
48. I find them disappointing
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:35 PM
Sep 2022

The Barack portrait looks like a photograph, which is not the point of a painted portrait. The depiction is supposed to be more interpretive and evocative of character, not just a detailed reproduction of their physical appearance. The portrait of Michelle is flat and just not the quality of painting I would expect for such a prominent occasion.

Not every portrait can be a John Singer Sargent, but they could get a lot closer to that standard than this.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
52. My gods, this is a wonderful moment
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:40 PM
Sep 2022

Aren’t we all thankful that the odious Trumps were too damn odious to even try?

DET

(1,323 posts)
54. 2 Cents
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:41 PM
Sep 2022

Just my uneducated opinion…Barack’s portrait looks fine, but it could have been better. I don’t think that it really captures his personality, and I hate the dark shadows. The background doesn’t bother me, especially since it does make him look stately. Michelle’s portrait is stunning. She looks absolutely beautiful. I noticed that Barack’s portrait is much more photo realistic than Michelle’s. Why is that? Personally, I much prefer these paintings to the ones in the National Portrait Gallery.

happy feet

(869 posts)
92. I'm with you.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 03:57 PM
Sep 2022

Doesn't capture his personality, warmness, caring...and I'm still bothered by the half shadow. Takes away from his face & eyes....

But, it's okay.

obamanut2012

(26,079 posts)
59. Love them both, especially his
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:43 PM
Sep 2022

Classy, minimalist background. Casual but professional. Chilled and intelligent.

LOVE.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
66. You do of course understand...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:47 PM
Sep 2022

...that most of the people who see this are going to think it's a photograph. EXTREMELY impressive work.

When they get around to hanging the painting of the 45th president, it's going to look more like a mug shot.

SYFROYH

(34,170 posts)
71. I'm surprised the painter shadowed half of his face as if its an underexposed poorly lit photo
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:54 PM
Sep 2022

This is a legit issue with photographers and dark-skinned subjects.

Perhaps it is an artistic statement that I don't understand.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
75. Such a handsome man!! I miss his voice most of all
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:59 PM
Sep 2022

So deep and reassuring.. after 4 years of the non stop whine all the Trumps do, I was about to lose my mind..

Demobrat

(8,980 posts)
86. They both look stern and grim.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 03:39 PM
Sep 2022

Especially Michelle. Neither one captures the essence IMO. He is warm and she is kind, and nothing of that comes through. Not my taste.

Torchlight

(3,341 posts)
87. To me, it captures the intersection of his strength and his dignity.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 03:41 PM
Sep 2022

And simultaneously contrasts his foreground accomplishments against a minimalist background. I think the artist excelled at creating the effects of weariness, formality, sadness, care, happiness, casualness, and even a hint of mischievousness in one single gaze.

Harker

(14,019 posts)
100. That was my second thought.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:03 PM
Sep 2022

My first was that it reminded me of a James Bama painting.

I'd be surprised were it not the artist's statement.

The tan suit might have been over the top, but I would've laughed with glee.

Harker

(14,019 posts)
113. That's classic stuff. I needed a laugh.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:25 PM
Sep 2022

I thought we'd collectively turned the corner with President Obama.

Turns out there's much yet to do.

Rocknation

(44,576 posts)
101. A big enough improvement over the portrait gallery pics
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:04 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Mon Sep 12, 2022, 08:55 AM - Edit history (2)

There is one thing I can be grateful to Trump for -- keeping these away from the White House:




Rocknation

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
106. I'd prefer a less glaring background, but that's my near blindness talking
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:07 PM
Sep 2022

I understand why it's white. It speaks louder than words.

It's beautifully done.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
127. He should have worn the tan suit.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 04:59 PM
Sep 2022

Just as a thorn in the side of any republican who might visit the White House in the future. 😉

As the portrait exists, it's a magnificent representation of a handsome, intelligent, honest, determined, and dedicated African American man who lead our country for eight wonderful years.

I love it.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
166. Making a bespoke suit for Trump....
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 09:00 PM
Sep 2022

would be like trying to stitch 300 pounds of Jello into a 3 square foot piece of gauze. Even if you could do it, it's always going to look like crap and the Jello is always going to ooze out of every tiny hole there is.

The only thing Trump would look good in is a casket.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
135. I guess I would need to see the other portraits first
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:02 PM
Sep 2022

to form a conclusion. However, in the absence of that info, it's obviously a nicely done painting. It captures his thoughtful personality, and maybe the weight that was on his shoulders... but I guess what's throwing me off is that 1/3 of his face is shadowed out.

PlutosHeart

(1,280 posts)
164. I like that actually.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:54 PM
Sep 2022

What President or any politician does not have secrets or has little public information of all the things they actually enacted while in office. Nope. Good call I say.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
143. tht's what a President and Statesman looks like
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:26 PM
Sep 2022

that guy hiding in his jammies in NJ doesn't hold a straw to him..not a one.

purr-rat beauty

(543 posts)
162. Pardon my American
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:44 PM
Sep 2022

But that is fucking amazing

If you read it left to right you see a figurine with it's shoulder forward, tense but determined, coming out of the darkness, his face shadowed with the light in his pupil being the brightest, a slight lowering of the lips which transitions into a black man most notably President Obama in light, a lift in his lips, his shoulder rested, and more comfortable with his place standing ahead of a blank white canvas. If this picture didn't intend to depict it, I see it and it's truly a masterpiece.

betsuni

(25,536 posts)
175. I don't really like it.
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 06:15 AM
Sep 2022

My husband made me laugh by saying it should've been a version of "The Scream."

Niagara

(7,620 posts)
178. This portrait knocked my socks off!
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 07:30 AM
Sep 2022

This man is the epitome of elegance.





I can say the same about Michelle Obama's portrait as well.

Deb

(3,742 posts)
179. never have I had such an emotional reaction to a portrait
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 07:53 AM
Sep 2022

it simply says everything about our man and his time

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
181. If it's going to be photorealistic
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 08:20 AM
Sep 2022

why not use one of Pete Souza's great photographs? There's no rule that says it has to be a painting. In the McCurdy Obama just looks worn and tired. There's nothing of his optimism and energy there.

Handler

(336 posts)
186. I can appreciate the skill and craft that is used to create this image however
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 10:32 AM
Sep 2022

in my photographer’s mind, photorealism belongs to the photographer. I envy painters in their ability to bring so much more of themselves to the image. I see little of that here. This is a grand image but I think it lacks soul.

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
189. Have to be honest, I don't much care for it.
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 10:50 AM
Sep 2022

I'm not sure why. Don't like the white background, too stark. I don't think of him as a black and white guy.

wendyb-NC

(3,327 posts)
194. That is amazing
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 12:34 PM
Sep 2022

Like looking at a photograph, yet it brings out the essence of his heart, soul and spirit. He is so real, his sincere goodness and brilliant character shines through.

He is my favorite president, and I believe one of the best presidents in U.S. history.

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