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Koko the gorilla's last message to humanity (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 OP
"Nature see you." 2naSalit Sep 2022 #1
It's very sad, but after seeing the rise of the Trump Humpers and Plague Lovers, I have liberal_mama Sep 2022 #2
I'm right with you. Lost faith in humanity at this point. Just did Jury Duty. It's damn depressing Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #12
Koko was female. tblue37 Sep 2022 #19
Thank you for the correction. I love it when I learn a new tidbit of information. liberal_mama Sep 2022 #28
Lotta jump cuts in that video. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2022 #3
I find it hard to believe a gorilla TxGuitar Sep 2022 #5
I don't HillbillyDaoist Sep 2022 #14
Koko had a sign vocabulary of 1,000 words. She had the intelligence of a 4 year old human LeftInTX Sep 2022 #29
Snopes agrees with you. Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #15
Thank you. nt sl8 Sep 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Sep 2022 #18
Feels pretty close to Ishmael by Daniel Quinn Bristlecone Sep 2022 #22
Note that your (broken) link goes to the Biblical Ishmael, rather than the novel. sl8 Sep 2022 #26
Appreciate it. I should have reviewed it prior to post. Bristlecone Sep 2022 #27
Frans de Waal, famous in primate research: scipan Sep 2022 #30
I remember when Koko painted and even made t-shirts tecelote Sep 2022 #4
K&R - nt Ohio Joe Sep 2022 #6
Evolution is funny Blue Owl Sep 2022 #7
This may be true of MAGAts, but it's also true of a lot of other people too. llmart Sep 2022 #21
the only part of their brains that work are their amygdala. mopinko Sep 2022 #25
"With man gone, will there be hope for gorilla?" TheProle Sep 2022 #8
You beat me to it! Bristlecone Sep 2022 #23
Koko was an amazing animal Bayard Sep 2022 #9
Indeed! 👍 Duppers Sep 2022 #11
I feel so sorry for people that don't listen to nature... MiHale Sep 2022 #10
No interest at all. Shiny things and $ are all that matters. Pathetic. Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #13
Listen to it? llmart Sep 2022 #20
Snopes indicates this is nothing more than a staged commercial. Ms. Toad Sep 2022 #16
Ridiculous. betsuni Sep 2022 #24

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
2. It's very sad, but after seeing the rise of the Trump Humpers and Plague Lovers, I have
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:29 PM
Sep 2022

lost my faith in humanity. I think we're in a situation now where people just want to ride the horse until he stops.

I just commented to my Trump loving neighbor that I got a jury duty summons. We discussed it and I commented that I'd make a terrible juror because I'd probably have too much empathy for the person on trial and worry that he could be innocent. He's like, "Oh not me, I'd find them guilty!" The irony that he loves everything Trump does and would be outraged if Trump is ever indicted for his crimes.

RIP, Koko. At least he no longer has to worry about this shit show.

TxGuitar

(4,200 posts)
5. I find it hard to believe a gorilla
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 05:11 PM
Sep 2022

could understand any of those concepts. I'm sure she learned to communicate via sign language but those are some pretty deep concepts.

 

HillbillyDaoist

(93 posts)
14. I don't
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 06:55 PM
Sep 2022

When every day I see MAGA morons with zero understanding of reality and zero compassion for the world or their fellow man. Read some books on animal intelligence and you'll be amazed.

LeftInTX

(25,384 posts)
29. Koko had a sign vocabulary of 1,000 words. She had the intelligence of a 4 year old human
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:32 PM
Sep 2022

Vocabulary grows to be about 900–1,000 words by the time a child is 3 years old.
The typical 4-year-old child will have about a 1,500–1,600-word vocabulary

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/what-does-koko-know-about-climate-change-nothing/

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
15. Snopes agrees with you.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 07:47 PM
Sep 2022
A PSA featuring a gorilla signing a warning to humans about climate change is essentially nothing more than a staged commercial.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/what-does-koko-know-about-climate-change-nothing/

Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #15)

Bristlecone

(10,129 posts)
22. Feels pretty close to Ishmael by Daniel Quinn
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:05 AM
Sep 2022
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(Quinn_novel)

I read it prob 10 years ago. My son just had it as a summer read for a class.

sl8

(13,800 posts)
26. Note that your (broken) link goes to the Biblical Ishmael, rather than the novel.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 10:23 AM
Sep 2022

DU doesn't handle URLs containing parentheses very well.

It looks like a good read, thank you.


Fixed link:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(Quinn_novel)

Bristlecone

(10,129 posts)
27. Appreciate it. I should have reviewed it prior to post.
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:10 PM
Sep 2022

Especially from a Wiki AND a cut/paste from my iPhone.

scipan

(2,351 posts)
30. Frans de Waal, famous in primate research:
Sat Sep 10, 2022, 04:24 PM
Sep 2022
Frans de Waal, director of Emory University’s Living Links primate research center, suggested that the conservation video hurts the credibility of those who study animal intelligence.

“Koko’s human-coached message goes well beyond anything that a gorilla understands or cares about, such as human global impact,” de Waal told HuffPost. He added that “stunts” like this one “have given the ape-language field a bad name, whereas there is so much more to discover if we just study what cognitively advanced animals can do of their own accord.”

Blue Owl

(50,429 posts)
7. Evolution is funny
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 05:28 PM
Sep 2022

Nature is like yin/yang… it can be incredibly beautiful and wonderful but also very cruel.

When it comes down to it, non-human animals tend to be more socialistic in nature — sharing food, being fair, encouraging intelligence, and making sure their own are taken care of.

But when it comes to crossing species, and even sometimes within species, it is all about survival of the fittest and bloodshed.

I’d like to think the human race is evolved enough to be socialist, but the MAGAts seem to be lacking in critical thinking skills, and resort to short-sighted territorial behavior. Which is weird, because a true socialist wants ALL humans, even those who fall into the snake-oil trappings MAGAts, to be treated equally.

It’s just interesting to consider when pondering the human condition, and beings like Koko really make a person think….

llmart

(15,540 posts)
21. This may be true of MAGAts, but it's also true of a lot of other people too.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:41 PM
Sep 2022

I'd say the majority of Americans are pretty self-involved, and that goes for Dems too. I know some people in my neighborhood who I know to be Democrats, but when it comes to following rules in the community and caring about the rest of their neighbors, well, not so much.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
20. Listen to it?
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:38 PM
Sep 2022

Most of them don't even notice it. They're too busy staring at their phone screens.

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