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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,619 posts)
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 02:57 PM Sep 2022

Does Trump still have official docs he's not supposed to have?

I really doubt that TFG has turned over all of the documents that he was supposed to turnover. The FBI needs to search Bedminster and Trump Tower



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-still-official-docs-s-not-supposed-rcna47495?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

In a court filing last week, the Justice Department complained about U.S. District Court Judge Aileen Cannon’s injunction, blocking federal investigators from examining documents they’ve already recovered from the former president’s property. Prosecutors specifically wrote that the Trump-appointed judge’s recent ruling could “impede efforts to identify the existence of any additional classified records that are not being properly stored.”

The phrasing raised the provocative possibility that some materials have not been recovered. It also dovetailed with a recent Washington Post report in which officials with the National Archives and Records Administration, or NARA, suggested that they, too, feared that the former president had not yet surrendered everything he took.

It was against this backdrop that The New York Times reported this morning:

The National Archives has informed congressional aides that it is still unsure whether former President Donald J. Trump has surrendered all of the presidential records he removed from the White House as required, even after months of negotiations, a subpoena and a search of his Florida property, Mar-a-Lago, according to the House Oversight Committee.


In a letter to the acting national archivist, House Oversight Committee Chair Carolyn Maloney noted that archives staff “recently informed the committee that the agency is not certain whether all presidential records are in its custody.”


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Does Trump still have official docs he's not supposed to have? (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 OP
I would bet he still has classified documents. VMA131Marine Sep 2022 #1
And who knows for how long he has been doing this? GreenWave Sep 2022 #2
The fact that he invited Russian spies into the Oval office less than FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #4
I remember when he shut the White House door and only he and Russians were inside. GreenWave Sep 2022 #5
Search that plane he had mothballed for a while. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #3
I think he does myself...did you see all those boxes he carted to various golf clubs? Good Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #6
One of his latest excuses is that he took all the Russian-related documents. kentuck Sep 2022 #7
Count on it. That traitor has so many places to hide them. It's also... brush Sep 2022 #8
I don't know how this works, but don't they have registers to keep docs filed somewhere? Justice matters. Sep 2022 #9
Did they raid all his properties? liberal N proud Sep 2022 #10
The traitor has a lot still imo. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #11
Yes. H2O Man Sep 2022 #12
The people/person who actually boxed them up... rubbersole Sep 2022 #13
I can't believe they haven't searched his other properties. nt doc03 Sep 2022 #14
Confirmation of what was already widely suspected. K&R crickets Sep 2022 #15
Arrest, waterboard, convict, firing squad. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #16
And does he have copies? Or has he distributed copies to his other co-conspirators? Midnight Writer Sep 2022 #17
NARA's staff is not certain whether all presidential records are in its custody" LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #18
House Oversight Committee calls on Trump to certify he surrendered all documents LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #19
The National Archives' lack of certainty alone answers the question misanthrope Sep 2022 #20
Who doesn't believe Trump is hiding some documents to protect himself from prosecution? kentuck Sep 2022 #21
Archives Think Trump Could STILL Be Hoarding Docs, Panel Says LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #22

VMA131Marine

(4,149 posts)
1. I would bet he still has classified documents.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 02:59 PM
Sep 2022

There are so many other places he could have stashed them. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jared has classified documents too.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
4. The fact that he invited Russian spies into the Oval office less than
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 03:04 PM
Sep 2022

four months after taking office is all the answer anyone needs to that question.

GreenWave

(6,766 posts)
5. I remember when he shut the White House door and only he and Russians were inside.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 03:06 PM
Sep 2022

No translator, no US personnel etc.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
3. Search that plane he had mothballed for a while.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 03:03 PM
Sep 2022

It's probably full of the things MF45 wants to sell when it's back to flying condition and he can flee the US.

Demsrule86

(68,696 posts)
6. I think he does myself...did you see all those boxes he carted to various golf clubs? Good
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 03:08 PM
Sep 2022

cover for selling or allowing bad actors to see the classified documents...traitor trump.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
7. One of his latest excuses is that he took all the Russian-related documents.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 03:11 PM
Sep 2022

....to keep Biden and the DOJ from shredding them? Because they prove his innocence in the Russia investigation.

brush

(53,876 posts)
8. Count on it. That traitor has so many places to hide them. It's also...
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 03:26 PM
Sep 2022

been reported that he traveled with boxes of documents. Stolen docs could be in several places.

Justice matters.

(6,941 posts)
9. I don't know how this works, but don't they have registers to keep docs filed somewhere?
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 03:32 PM
Sep 2022

If the NARA doesn't have a database with all the file numbers in it, which department has one?

If such a register doesn't exist (???), I can't believe nobody keeps track of classified documents!!

rubbersole

(6,729 posts)
13. The people/person who actually boxed them up...
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 03:51 PM
Sep 2022

..probably has testified to the J6 committee and the grand jury investigating this treasonous putin bitch.
"It will blow the roof off the house." Just in time for the midterms.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,447 posts)
16. Arrest, waterboard, convict, firing squad.
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 04:35 PM
Sep 2022

Waterboarding should only be used in this case. Televise it so justice can be seen to be done.

Midnight Writer

(21,803 posts)
17. And does he have copies? Or has he distributed copies to his other co-conspirators?
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:14 PM
Sep 2022

Inconceivable to me that someone would have illegal possession of government documents for 19 months and they did not photograph, copy, or distribute them.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,619 posts)
18. NARA's staff is not certain whether all presidential records are in its custody"
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 07:22 PM
Sep 2022

This is serious. No one is sure that TFG is still not holding classified and other government records


LetMyPeopleVote

(145,619 posts)
19. House Oversight Committee calls on Trump to certify he surrendered all documents
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 02:02 AM
Sep 2022

TFG will lie but we need to get TFG on the record



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-documents-seized-from-mar-a-lago-house-oversight-committee-letter/

More than a month after the FBI seizure of records from former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence the U.S. House Oversight Committee is urging the National Archives "to seek from former President Trump a written certification that he has surrendered all presidential records or classified materials."

"In light of revelations that Mr. Trump's representatives misled investigators about his continued possession of government property and that material found at his club included dozens of 'empty folders' for classified material, I am deeply concerned that sensitive presidential records may remain out of the control and custody of the U.S. government," wrote House Oversight Committee chair Rep. Carolyn Maloney, Democrat of New York. .

The National Archives confirmed to CBS News on Tuesday that it had received the letter from the Oversight Committee, but declined to comment further. ....

The Justice Department has referenced concern about records that remain unaccounted for from Mar-a-Lago in their recent court filings in federal court in Florida. U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has put a freeze on the federal investigation into those records as both prosecutors and Trump attorneys argue over naming and duties of a special master.

The Justice Department has argued that the freeze should be lifted, saying that halting its investigation posed grave harm to national security and the intelligence review of the records could not be effectively performed without the involvement of criminal investigators. The investigation and the public at large, prosecutors wrote, could be "irreparably injured" by the pause.


misanthrope

(7,430 posts)
20. The National Archives' lack of certainty alone answers the question
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 02:21 AM
Sep 2022

Who else would have them and how else would they have left proper custody?

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
21. Who doesn't believe Trump is hiding some documents to protect himself from prosecution?
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 07:05 AM
Sep 2022

I would be surprised if there are not some TS documents still missing.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,619 posts)
22. Archives Think Trump Could STILL Be Hoarding Docs, Panel Says
Wed Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM
Sep 2022

The FBI needs to search Bedminster and Trump Tower



https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/national-archives-trump-still-hoarding-docs-1234591937/

THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES suspect that former President Donald Trump could still be retaining documents that should have been turned over to the archives, according to a letter from the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.

Committee Chair Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) indicated in the letter, which was sent to National Archives (NARA) archivist Debra Steidel Wall, that “NARA’s staff recently informed the Committee that the agency is not certain whether all presidential records are in its custody.”

Maloney expressed concerns that the former president failed to hand over all of the documents in his possession on three separate occasions: at the conclusion of his term as president, after receiving a request from NARA in May of 2021, and after receiving a grand jury subpoena in May 2022.


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The committee also urged NARA to seek “written certification that [Trump] has surrendered all presidential records or classified materials, has not made any copies or reproductions of such materials, and has not transferred any records or government documents to any party other than NARA or DOJ since his term ended.”
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