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September 15, 2022 Statements and Releases
The tentative agreement reached tonight is an important win for our economy and the American people. It is a win for tens of thousands of rail workers who worked tirelessly through the pandemic to ensure that Americas families and communities got deliveries of what have kept us going during these difficult years. These rail workers will get better pay, improved working conditions, and peace of mind around their health care costs: all hard-earned. The agreement is also a victory for railway companies who will be able to retain and recruit more workers for an industry that will continue to be part of the backbone of the American economy for decades to come.
I thank the unions and rail companies for negotiating in good faith and reaching a tentative agreement that will keep our critical rail system working and avoid disruption of our economy.
I am grateful for the hard work that Secretaries Walsh, Buttigieg, and Vilsack, and NEC Director Deese put into reaching this tentative agreement. I especially want to thank Secretary Walsh for his tireless, around-the-clock efforts that delivered a win for the hard working people of the US rail industry: as a result, we will keep Americans on the job in all the industries in this country that are touched by this vital industry.
For the American people, the hard work done to reach this tentative agreement means that our economy can avert the significant damage any shutdown would have brought. With unemployment still near record lows and signs of progress in lowering costs, tonights agreement allows us to continue to fight for long term economic growth that finally works for working families.
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/09/15/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-tentative-railway-labor-agreement/
Media was chomping at the bits to get The Narrative® going again, now using a possible rail strike as a justification to sink Democrats and Joe Biden.
THWARTED!
Thank you Secretaries Walsh, Buttigieg, Vilsack and others for the intense work towards getting this done.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Now the right and media will have a sad and pick at the deal to find something wrong to twist it. But probably will fall flat on their asses once again at trying
Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)Walleye
(31,056 posts)Pundits and Republicans were rubbing their hands together at the prospect of a crippling rail strike. They dont care what happens to the rest of the country as long as they get to tell their narrative. Now I will wait in vain to hear them talk about what a great job the President did in averting this strike
Takket
(21,629 posts)And to my shock they actually mentioned secretary walsh and that DOL was part of the negotiations.
Link to tweet
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BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)Was waiting for him to issue a tweet from that account and hadn't checked in a bit!
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)He is emphasizing Made In America! After years of watching Congress ship our jobs out, even giving companies incentives to do so the pandemic showed how bone headed that was.
President Biden is on the right track supporting workers and Unions. Products made here. And it is working.
The CEO of INTEL said, The rust belt is no more, this State will be known as, SILICON VALLEY! Bidens CHIP bill made it possible!
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)how all the so-called "Rust Belt" needed was something to "scrape off the rust and reveal the shiny new steel underneath". The foundational structure is still sound.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)That exploded the auto industry here! Dayton had a Mayor who rebuilt the city that lost 5 auto plants and Fridgidaire. She remodeled, restored, brought in new technologies. But the die hard rural will never vote for her. They prefer one of the slimiest, crooked Governors in History.
They know he approved the $61 million dollar bribe, was actually pushing the deal before he came into office.
I love my state, but deplore the ignorance of voters.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)and he and my sis go back there several times a year since one of his brothers and a sister are still there. He and my sis live here in the Philly area now but had originally lived out there in the greater Dayton area for awhile previously (and she was actually commuting back and forth to Cincinnati for awhile). A bunch of his friends left there because of what was happening.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)No jobs. But many went to the Community Colleges, learned new trades. I was shocked how many 304050 year olds were at Sinclair when I took a couple of classes there.
I live 3 blocks off I 70. We left Dayton in the 70s,a small city called Clayton. Was almost rural when we moved here. Now has everything I need in a 2 mile circle. Very safe city.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)was Proctor and Gamble down in Cincy but I expect not much manufacturing (which is also a different skill set) is done there in favor of their other plants, and P&G has been steadily breaking itself up over the past decade as it is.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Now owned by a German groups, called mahle. My Son was an Engeneer there. Went through all the transitions. The only plant to have a Union for Engineers and he was under the Chrysler contract.
They almost killed him,7/12 hour days. He also also on 24 hour call. When he needed a break management told him they needed him. He was one month short of the age requirement. He waited, turned in his retirement. They were quite unhappy with him. Asked him if he would come back and teach! Happily retired, he loved to make things.
My DILs Mother worked fot P&G. My DIL will not buy anything else.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)was able to give them the old heave-ho!!! That "on call" stuff is just ridiculous - particularly for that type of position. Glad he is happily retired (and he can choose what he wants to do and when)!
And LOL - I know some P&G devotees... but then at one time, they made so much that chances were, some product you bought was from one of their subsidiaries.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)He had walked awa, but the mentality of the Union was strong. In that case the Egieer was in charge of designing the machines, making sure they were running them right, the whole bit.he refused to become a paper pusher as he called management, said he trained to be an Engineer.
I am proud of him. My Grandson gradiated from Ohio U in the spring, but boy how things have changed. He has been designing robots since High School
They keep me up.
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)May it go through without further difficulty.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Of Union negotiations this usually happens. No one wants a strike on either side. They know they both will be hurt but it almost always happens at the last day or hour.
Croney
(4,670 posts)Thank you, President Biden and all who helped.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)This was fear poem by the media. They were always really close to a deal. But the media cheerleads for dooms fun gloom right now.
So Biden had to step in to make sure it got done and look like the hero again.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Smart Biden! That picture of Biden sitting in that orange sports car saying, Made In America! Is what workers want to hear!
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Doesn't mean he's unreasonable to the owners, but he knows who needs his help more, the workers do.
This deal gives all workers an immediate $11,000 bonus and gives them a 24% raise over the next 5 years.
I just think the media was ramping this up like it was going to be Biden's fault if a strike happened. Biden took that opportunity to make sure a deal got done and then take credit for it.
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)Well done Joe!
DFW
(54,437 posts)This was a Transportation Secretary's test of fire, and I don't think he was going to take failure for an answer.
Biden, on the other hand, must have a secret storage area in the White House with equal numbers of rabbits and hats, and every time the situation warrants it, he just orders one of each.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)May I borrow it?
DFW
(54,437 posts)True Blue American
(17,988 posts)DFW
(54,437 posts)In other words, "oh, did he really?"
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)as being good for business in that they establish rules of employment to which employees have agreed. It makes it easier on the company when they can point to a collectively bargained agreement when they need to fire or discipline an employee.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Back Unions..
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)"unions benefit management, too" argument. How easy would it be to own a business and be able to negotiate a contract where you could say to the union: "Employee x keeps showing up late to work, or takes an exceptionally long lunch each day or is a substance abuser, you (union) make sure employee x gets their act together before they are suspended or fired."? You could delegate all that to the union for the small price of good wages and benefits.
WhiskeyGrinder
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(57,073 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,567 posts)James48
(4,440 posts)I have NOT heard anything about the key issue- the attendance policy right out of Amazon that made employees quit it was so bad. Many employees swore that if that wasnt fixed, they wont approve an agreement, and they would quit.
Not a word yet from the Union workers. Wait until THEY decide whether to ratify. It COULD become very unstable unless that was fixed.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)Link to tweet
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SCOOP: @JStein_WaPo and I have confirmed that railroads have agreed to give workers the ability to take days off for medical care without being subject to discipline.
This was THE key demand that railroad workers wanted to strike over, and they got it.
6:46 AM · Sep 15, 2022
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MORE DETAILS:
Workers will receive voluntary assigned days off AND a single additional paid day off. (They previously did not receive sick days.)
+ The agreement provides members with ability to take unpaid days for medical care without being subject to attendance policies.
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@JStein_WaPo reports that Biden was personally animated about the lack of leave for railroad workers, and brought up that he did not understand why they could not be granted more flexible schedules.
Here's our story:
washingtonpost.com
Biden says tentative deal reached to avert rail strike
7:02 AM · Sep 15, 2022
By Lauren Kaori Gurley and Jeff Stein
Updated September 15, 2022 at 9:39 a.m. EDT|Published September 15, 2022 at 5:23 a.m. EDT
The White House early Thursday morning announced an agreement between rail carriers and union leaders, likely averting a national rail strike that threatened to paralyze key parts of the U.S. economy. With less than 24 hours to avoid a potential shutdown, President Biden said that negotiators had clinched a tentative deal to keep freight trains running and prevent a major disruption to the nations supply chains.
The agreement provides workers with the ability to take days off for sick leave and medical emergencies the unions central demand in negotiations although it granted them only one day of paid sick leave, according to two people briefed on the plan, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because it had not yet been publicly announced. The agreement, which must still be ratified by the unions, represents a major breakthrough for the White House after it launched an all-out effort to prevent a shutdown that could have had significant economic and political ramifications in the run-up to the 2022 midterm elections.
The president was personally involved in the talks, calling into negotiations convened by Labor Secretary Marty Walsh in Washington around 9 p.m. on Wednesday, and pressing both the carriers and the unions to come to an agreement in phone calls this week. Biden had grown animated in recent days about the lack of scheduling flexibility for workers, expressing a mixture of confusion and anger that management was refusing to budge on that point, according to two people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details of private conversations with the president.
The political consequences of a rail strike less than two months before the midterm elections would have been monumental for Democrats, with Republican lawmakers blaming the administration for not securing a deal. Three of Bidens Cabinet secretaries, his top economic adviser and his chief of staff were involved in the talks on an hourly basis, and White House aides drafted contingency plans for protecting the nations drinking water and energy systems if a deal had fallen through.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/09/15/rail-strike-deal-agreement-biden/
No paywall link
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)Employees constantly calling off when they are scheduled to work, then a scramble to find an employee willing to cover that shift. It wasn't exactly fair to the employees who were off or who were asked to work a double or weekend shift.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)But in their case, made more acute due to the poor work conditions and lack of benefits that could at least provide for more "planned time off", which in the case of sick leave, was completely non-existent, and that itself would have made it harder to recruit and retain more employees.
IOW, they were no different from many small, non-unionized restaurant wait staff who have no guaranteed sick leave and/or personal days, and who often end up having to call out for whatever reasons. But in the case of the RR employees, those folks WERE unionized.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I mean is that even presidential? He didn't say how nobody's ever seen anything like it. Strange!