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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 01:08 PM Sep 2022

Trump is 'incredibly worried' Jeff Clark will flip on him as conspiracy charges are prepared

On Thursday's edition of MSNBC's "The Beat," former acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal reacted to the new reports that the Justice Department is investigating former Donald Trump Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark is under investigation for conspiracy, false statements, and obstruction.

Clark, who pushed conspiracy theories at the DOJ and planned to pressure Georgia officials to throw out the election, would be one of the highest-ranking officials so far to be charged as a result of the 2020 coup plot. But, said Katyal, it could also put Trump himself in jeopardy.

"You see Jeffrey Clark, who was at one time slotted to be an inexperienced coup attorney general by Trump, going into January 6th," said anchor Ari Melber. "Now we're learning they were looking at, among other things, conspiracy. What does that tell you?"

"It tells me a lot," said Katyal. "So conspiracy is a very flexible doctrine that prosecutors can use, and the key thing about it — it goes all the way back to like the 17th century — that it doesn't require the completion of a crime. It's called an inchoate crime. If you and I agree to rob a bank, that's a crime, even if we end up not doing it, as long as there's an act and furtherance of it. I wrote a whole Yale journal about how this doctrine is a flexible tool for prosecutors to use because it allows people to flip and turn in information to law enforcement."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-incredibly-worried-jeff-clark-will-flip-on-him-as-conspiracy-charges-are-prepared-expert/ar-AA11SI62

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Trump is 'incredibly worried' Jeff Clark will flip on him as conspiracy charges are prepared (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2022 OP
Good. tanyev Sep 2022 #1
Clark seems pretty spineless. badhair77 Sep 2022 #2
Conspiracy can be hard to prove central scrutinizer Sep 2022 #3
And the Assistant U.S. Attorney who fumbled that case? Billy Williams gratuitous Sep 2022 #7
Thanks! central scrutinizer Sep 2022 #10
Sounds like a RICO investigation gohuskies Sep 2022 #4
well said housecat Sep 2022 #5
CRIMES GenXer47 Sep 2022 #6
Run, Spot, Run. . . . FLIP, JEFF, FLIP. RobertDevereaux Sep 2022 #8
TRump is the one pResident who... gohuskies Sep 2022 #9

central scrutinizer

(11,659 posts)
3. Conspiracy can be hard to prove
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 01:29 PM
Sep 2022

The prosecutors in the Bundy/Malheur Wildlife Refuge case went for a conspiracy charge because it carried a stiffer sentence. Jury wasn’t convinced and those assholes walked.

https://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/ammon-bundy-verdict-oregon-standoff-malheur-court/

“Throughout the government’s case, prosecutors attempted to show the jury evidence about when the alleged conspiracy began, as well as how the occupation unfolded and ultimately ended.

The government relied heavily on testimony from law enforcement, including Harney County Sheriff David Ward, as well as dozens of FBI agents who responded to the occupation or processed evidence at the Malheur refuge after the occupation ended.”

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. And the Assistant U.S. Attorney who fumbled that case? Billy Williams
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 04:01 PM
Sep 2022

He got promoted to U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon by the former guy. During the demonstrations of 2020, Williams got in front of as many teevee cameras as he could to gripe and moan about the damage to the federal courthouse in downtown Portland. The fences and barricades are still up at the courthouse, forcing people with business in the courthouse to walk in the street to get to the one entrance. Williams is gone to that great sinecure in the sky reserved for conservative hacks, but his legacy lives on.

gohuskies

(1,156 posts)
4. Sounds like a RICO investigation
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 01:30 PM
Sep 2022

The volume of the crimes to perpetrate Trump's insurrection is staggering. this will be one for the history books when all is said and done. Mango Mussolini needs to be in prison for the remainder of his corrupt and miserable life and so do his co-conspirators. This makes Watergate look like a shoplifting offense compared to tRump's nefarious plots to install a dictatorship.

 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
6. CRIMES
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 03:58 PM
Sep 2022

C is for Compromised, kompromat spelled
R for the Risky stuff, took and withheld
I is for Imbecile, total wingnut
M for the cell Mate who'll be up his butt
E is for Evil Empire, Russia still
S for the orange Spy on Capitol Hill

“They’ll put him away. He’ll pay for his crimes." Nixon's ghost singing: "history rhymes!”

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