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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI wonder if any polls are taking into account
the amount of election rigging, voter disenfranchisement and partisan gerrymandering the GOP is doing for November?
To me that is the biggest unknown, and could cost us our democracy.
Who people say they will vote for is only half the story. How many of them will get a chance to vote is the rest.
intrepidity
(7,339 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,220 posts)Polling prediction usually use patterns of prior elections, comparing them to outcomes.
Since the things you brought up have been happening since the 80s, the predictions are likely weighted accordingly.
Now, individual polls may not be, but aggregated predictive models likely are.
edhopper
(33,634 posts)have not been happening to this degree since Jim Crow.
We are at a whole new level for modern elections.
ProfessorGAC
(65,220 posts)I think you're understating the shenanigans over the past 40+ years.
Besides, I don't get why you feel poll modelers are oblivious to the things you & I know.
If we know it, why wouldn't they?
edhopper
(33,634 posts)why shouldn't they. Yet I do not see them taking this into account in the results. The in-poll data does not address this.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Meadowoak
(5,562 posts)edhopper
(33,634 posts)and it doesn't matter how people want to vote, if the GOP in power stops them.
Meadowoak
(5,562 posts)more registered democrats, than republicans, we can win any race if we ALL vote. you're correct about the GOP, we may not have many more chances to vote. I worry that if the dems think we're ahead in the polls, they don't bother to vote. In reality, we start at about 6pts behind in every race due to gerrymandering and the electoral college.
edhopper
(33,634 posts)if we could get young people to vote in the same numbers as seniors, we would win every national election. How do we convince them that their future lies in the balance. It should be obvious.
Meadowoak
(5,562 posts)edhopper
(33,634 posts)for good or ill.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,464 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Because if we go all out and get awareness of gerrymandering the REICH may try to remove the evidence.
Court Adjusted WI
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2022/politics/us-redistricting/wisconsin-redistricting-map/
MN is crazy RED
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2022/politics/us-redistricting/minnesota-redistricting-map/
GreenWave
(6,766 posts)GOP voters upset about J6 and quitting the party.
GOP Covid deniers (losing about 500 people day still) I would bet over 90% red voters dead in those totals.
But back to your argument, the biggest bully is voter purges designed to crush the Blue.
edhopper
(33,634 posts)as Kemp showed it is a way to win. Also, fewer polling places, fewer machines in Dem districts. No drop boxes for mail ins....
WarGamer
(12,485 posts)3-4 seats pretty much automatically went GOP...
iemanja
(53,072 posts)and thats probably why Republicans usually out-perform the polls.
Groundhawg
(557 posts)edhopper
(33,634 posts)but then it will be too late.
Wanderlust988
(509 posts)And what election rigging are we exactly talking about? That sounds like MAGA terms.
edhopper
(33,634 posts)throwing registered voters off of the rolls. Voter ID laws. Election "Police" (Florida) Giving State Legislatures the power to throw out votes... I could go on.
LakeArenal
(28,855 posts)So it does affect Federal votes.
doc03
(35,386 posts)trusted again. Both parties are going to think they
we cheated from now on. That's how authoritarian
governments take power. Right out of the Putin playbook.
edhopper
(33,634 posts)but it is blatant and egregious on one side right now.
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)LakeArenal
(28,855 posts)We also have energized youth to at least register to vote.