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The Geogre
Sep 19, 2022 at 04:30:52 AM
The Department of Justice lawyers working on the appeal and stay in the documents case of Mar-a-Lago and Donald J. Trump for the 11th circuit are smart. The ones trying for a stay from Cannon were smart, too, and smarter than she is.
Marcy Wheeler, at Empty Wheel blog, notes that, in their appeal, they drop a note that Donald Trump has leaked top secret material. Im going to add emphasis:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/17/in-motion-for-a-stay-doj-raises-prospect-that-trump-leaked-classified-documents/
Aileen Cannons order only permitted the government to review the classified documents for hypothetical risk of future disclosure. It notes that that would prohibit the government from investigating whether these documents have already been disclosed. It then raises the empty folders as a problem that must be solved, in part by identifying the patterns of Trumps theft to identify what else he may have stolen.The injunction also appears to bar the FBI and DOJ from further reviewing the records to discern any patterns in the types of records that were retained, which could lead to identification of other records still missing. See A42 (describing recovery of empty folders with classified banners). And the injunction would prohibit the government from using any aspect of the seized records contents to support the use of compulsory process to locate any additional records.
Disregarding a sworn declaration from a senior FBI official, the court dismissed such concerns as hypothetical scenarios and faulted the government for not identifying an emergency or imminent disclosure of classified information. A11. But the record makes clear that the materials were stored in an unsecure manner over a prolonged period, and the courts injunction itself prevents the government from even beginning to take necessary steps to determine whether improper disclosures might have occurred or may still occur.
As she says,
The government came very close to saying that Judge Cannon has prohibited the government from preventing leaks in process.
This is short for Empty Wheel, so think it through for a moment. Justice, on behalf of FBI, is saying that the materials were held for months without security. There are empty folders. The empty folders MUST be investigated, but Cannon prohibits the investigation, since those would be hypothetical and of things in the past. She is only allowing a security review of future harms.
So, a Fake Rothschild, someone looking for a towel and opening the wrong closet, or just K$$$ and John Solomon evacuating the good stuff but leaving the wrapper? The jackets without files tell us that there are Top Secret goods that HAVE leaked. They may or may not have been transmitted, but they have escaped containment and governmental control.
The Espionage Act case has already been proved.
https://www.dailykos.com/comments/2123626/84550542#comment_84550542
dclarston13
(412 posts)They may have to indict him on one of the many crimes he has committed.
KPN
(15,649 posts)but she has a law degree for crying out loud, so she isn't that stupid. There are some things that look like, walk like and talk like a duck that are in fact a duck. We all know that. This is one of those things, only more important.
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Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)follow which makes lists like this informative.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)Xoan
(25,322 posts)This should get messy.
Joinfortmill
(14,448 posts)Nevilledog
(51,178 posts)I just found that interesting.
stopdiggin
(11,348 posts)(her upbringing, education, and family background, seem to be as American as apple pie.)
Nevilledog
(51,178 posts)Not that I'm doubting you, I've only seen the info she provided on her congressional questionnaire.
stopdiggin
(11,348 posts)(with the exception of education and work) and that would appear to be deliberate. And - in today's day and age - I can't say as I blame anyone for taking that position.
I don't have any special sources or insight. On the other hand - from what I do see - I can't point to anything that looks even remotely suspicious. (unless the bi-lingual, dual-citizenship thing qualifies) And testimony from former workmates and classmates (unlike some other judges we're aware of) - seems to be pretty uniformly thumbs up and supportive.
Nevilledog
(51,178 posts)stopdiggin
(11,348 posts)And - Columbia does not automatically grant birth-right citizenship, so ...
Until I have better information - I'm going to back up to 'unsubstantiated.'
onecaliberal
(32,887 posts)LaMouffette
(2,039 posts)folders are returned; AND (2) the Special Master has completed his review.
Then after he is released, he should be put on probation that would include the requirement of not leaving the US. Any violation of that probation would put him back in jail.
triron
(22,011 posts)Orrex
(63,220 posts)And not like the incarnate god-king of an insurrectionist KKKult.
LaMouffette
(2,039 posts)not a reason that he should be handled with kid gloves.
Plus, just think of what kind of damage he could still be doing. Traitor Trump is an active, ongoing threat to our national security.