White House: GOP abortion ban would mean a nationwide crisis

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists say a Republican-led proposal to ban abortion nationwide after 15 weeks would endanger the health of women and have severe consequences for physicians.

“If passed and enacted, this bill would create a nationwide health crisis, imperiling the health and lives of women in all 50 states,” according to a preliminary analysis of the bill by Jennifer Klein, the White House Gender Policy Council chairwoman, that was obtained by The Associated Press. “It would transform the practice of medicine, opening the door to doctors being thrown in jail if they fulfill their duty of care to patients according to their best medical judgment.”

The measure introduced last week by Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., proposes a nationwide ban that would allow rare exceptions. The legislation has almost no chance of becoming law in the Democratic-controlled Congress. GOP leaders did not immediately embrace it and Democrats are pointing to the proposal as an alarming signal of where Republicans would try to go if they were to win control of the Congress in November.

Many in the United States had believed the constitutional right to abortion, established by the Supreme Court almost 50 years ago, could never be overturned. But that protection was stripped away this year by the court's conservative majority, and advocates are leaving nothing to chance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-gop-abortion-ban-164654146.html

[Johnny2X2X]

1. Playing to win!

The Dems just get it right now. This was an opening and they are seizing it.

[Bayard]

2. The Big Question:

Will abortion rights overcome (OMG!) sky-high inflation and the flailing stock market?

[TheRealNorth]

3. You hear that on CNN or Faux News?

That sounds like the the type of question they would pose.

[AllyCat]

10. Actually, I keep seeing this graphic on almost every news source.

No date. No polling company information. Just showing that “likely voters” say it’s the economy and that abortion, climate, and gun issues are single-digit interest issues.

Today it was on Spectrum News on an office tv.

[Bayard]

15. I'm sorry

Did the sarcasm thingy not show up on your screen?

[former9thward]

4. Much ado about little.

If you read the Dobbs decision this SC will not allow Congress to do anything with abortion. For or against. The decision said it was a matter for the states not the federal government.

[barbtries]

5. lol

they lie.

[NQAS]

6. Until it's not

This courtesy and it’s extremists have an agenda, one 50+ years in the making. So they said it was a state issue. Until they say it’s not a state issue.

[Hortensis]

7. Yes. I always read whatever former9th has to say, but right now

there are at least two proposed bills in congress that would ban abortion nationally. It's not just posturing for the election. They believe they can do it (just really bad timing for actual action!), and there's very big demand for it on the anti-abortion side. Remembering that the intent has always been to make abortion illegal nationally.

Presumably deciding that the affirming the states' rights to ban abortion is not the same as deciding the federal government has no right to ban abortion.

From screenshots taken of a McCarthy memo:

166 House Republicans, including GOP Whip Scalise and Chair Stefanik, have co-sponsored a “Life Begins at Conception” bill that would use the 14th Amendment to criminalize all abortion after the moment of fertilization, with absolutely no exceptions for rape, incest or the health of the woman.

179 House Republicans have co-sponsored or endorsed as members of the Republican Study Committee a bill to criminalize abortion nationwide after six weeks, before most women even know they are pregnant, with no exceptions for rape or incest, explicitly punishable by 5-year sentences in federal prison for doctors.

205 House Republicans voted in support of arresting, finding or suing women for traveling across state lines to obtain an abortion.

195 House Republicans voted against the fundamental right to contraception.

[dpibel]

8. I think you're mistaken

The Supremes said abortion is not a constitutional right.

That is not synonymous with saying it is not a matter for the federal government.

Under your formulation, Congress could only pass laws that had to do directly with Constitutional rights. All else would belong to the states.

That's not how it works.

[former9thward]

9. It is how it works.

The Constitution specifically says Congress can only pass laws deriving from the authority of the Constitution. All else is left to the states. The argument has been whether abortion is a Constitutional right or not. Whether you agree with the decision or not you should read what it says to know the thinking of this SC majority.

[Skittles]

11. LOL

surely you know that corruption and deception are SOP for the fucking GOP

[MontanaMama]

13. Lindsey Graham told us

this wasn’t their intention. He said the quiet part out loud with his sweaty announcement about the proposed 15 week ban. They want that to be the law of the land and I’m sure scotus will help them over the finish line on this.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. If I can add related topic... IF Rs win house, and they

pass some asshat law, we'll have Senate & D Prez to not sign on right?? So let them pass crazy shit?? Crazier the better? To me, if they win the House, it will be a time that nothing happens. We need to ram thru anything we can before J 21 right?

[Hestia]

17. Well, no on the first part of your question, possibly on the second...

If anything needs prayed upon or wished for, is for every GQP member or member adjacent person to shown the door -- of the loony bin. Yes, for those in need there are mental facilities but we're waayy beyond that now. If we now have "approved" human trafficking by a state governor and it's being touted as no BFD by up to 1/3 of this country, we've entered the abyss, much less stared into it. We are now in uncharted territories...

Did y'all catch the segment about a new book that just came out? Unfortunately, it is a publication by the Heritage Foundation (a broke clock and all) regarding that there is right now 11,000,000 men who sit at home, stare at screens for over 2,000 hours per year (about 40 hours per week), treating the screens as their jobs; do not work; no children or spouses, even ex's in most cases; do not help their parents with any work around the house; no charity or NGO work of any kind, all the while taking pain killers. PBS News, I think(!).

Now, these are the people we are suppose to be so understanding of, be their fluffers per se, yet, "we" (royal) are told openly that we should be killed while people from all parties have death threats against them, that we are scum, and we are what is wrong in our piece of the universe. Of course, this rhetoric is coming from those who do not living amongst them 24/7, that they have isolated themselves -- these are some scary mofo's and nobody wants to deal with them. For those who say we have to be the higher person, you take them in. You fix them because we certainly can't. They are broken beyond repair and maybe coming from strangers will help.

So, no, no helping in any shape, form or fashion, on my part at least, for anyone from the other side of the line. They are "preyed" and "prayed" upon by the xtian* nat'l churches and members. They are getting all the "help" they need right now...

* the xtian nationals hate this term, which is laughable because "x" in this context means christ in greek (that's what I was taught in Sunday School) but they think it is a liberal mocking hate jaysus term that happens to be 2,000 +/- years old.
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On the second part, nothing has happened as far as legislation for us all since 1992, when Bill and Hillary, et al, triangulated the New Deal Democrats out of congress and senate due to their my way or the highway treatment of anyone who "crossed." It really ramped up in 1995 with Newt the fuck Gingrich. Since then, it has either been fighting them or them using the arcanist rules possible to stop us, feeding their frenzy to the minions with microphones who keep them going. Pretty sad for our congressperson or senator having a favorite media spokesmodel who will repeat their frenzy each and every night verbatim. All in HD makeup.

Getting nothing done is the American Way...

[flashman13]

14. Stop saying conservatives! They are radical ractionaries!

And stop saying pro life! The proper term is forced birth.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

16. Just finished (re)watching an old movie, "Separate But Equal" ...

The arguments put forth by Thurgood Marshall in opposition to segregation of schools, based on the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, apply to abortion bans because these laws deny women equal treatment under the law.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Females capable of becoming pregnant are "persons born" and are entitled to "equal protection of the laws". Fetuses are not yet born and are not entitled to better protection of the laws than women and girls.

The Extreme Court, via the Subversive 6, got it wrong and must be corrected.

Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

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