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catbyte

(34,408 posts)
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:39 PM Sep 2022

Greg Abbott is raging DeSantis kidnapped the immigrants he wanted to deport

Ron DeSantis is furious Greg Abbott stole his idea — Abbott is raging DeSantis kidnapped the immigrants he wanted to deport

Sarah K. Burris
September 25, 2022

Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis whined at a GOP event last year that his fellow governor, Greg Abbott (R-TX) has it easy looking good to voters because he has a 1,254-mile border with Mexico that he can blame for all of his problems.

In a New York Times report about the two governors, DeSantis and Abbott, means that the Texas governor "stole the show," from a threat that DeSantis had made earlier this year that he would bus immigrants from Florida to President Joe Biden's home in Delaware.

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[DeSantis] ultimately got more attention, however, because he flew them on a fancy private plane to Martha's Vineyard. No one knew they were coming and churches and groups were forced to mobilize quickly to help the people when they arrived. Since the island is seasonal, they've since been sent to the mainland, about 25 miles north, where there are more people to offer them housing and services.

"It immediately put the national spotlight on Mr. DeSantis, garnering headlines and earning him praise from Republicans and condemnation from Democrats," the Times noted. "It also led to an investigation by the sheriff in San Antonio and a lawsuit from migrants who said they had been lured onto the planes under false pretenses. Mr. DeSantis grabbed the attention of right-wing America, using Mr. Abbott’s tactic, on Mr. Abbott’s turf, to bigger and more dramatic effect."

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Greg Abbott is raging DeSantis kidnapped the immigrants he wanted to deport (Original Post) catbyte Sep 2022 OP
NO KIDDING??? elleng Sep 2022 #1
It's a battle of two Bond villains. catbyte Sep 2022 #4
Or the Battle of the Cha Sep 2022 #11
I'd say more like Austin Powers villains. But I get your point. :-) Carlitos Brigante Sep 2022 #18
Ha! Called it: tanyev Sep 2022 #2
Nice work! Cha Sep 2022 #14
Boys, boys don't fight over them. There's enough human pawns to go around Walleye Sep 2022 #3
There is a fight to the death in the Tasmanian devil's cage, magicarpet Sep 2022 #5
Who to root for? I'll go for a mutual KO. nt OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #6
A pox on both their houses. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2022 #7
This Is Apparently The Stuff Most Important To The Majority Of Voters In FL & TX nt SoCalDavidS Sep 2022 #8
European Immigrants ? yankee87 Sep 2022 #9
That's because overseas migrants require a passport or Visa to even get on a plane or ship. LeftInTX Sep 2022 #10
Staying past the visad yankee87 Sep 2022 #20
Yes, you can get deported for staying past your visa LeftInTX Sep 2022 #22
I keep hoping for the day ThoughtCriminal Sep 2022 #12
They are both fundraising off this.... so DeSantis is taking Abbotts money LOL IcyPeas Sep 2022 #13
Can this get any screwier. Srkdqltr Sep 2022 #15
Yeah, Claw it Out who can be the Cha Sep 2022 #16
All this for publicity. This makes me sick. Deuxcents Sep 2022 #17
Do not fall for this good-cop bad-cop bullshit dalton99a Sep 2022 #19
Let them cage fight to the death. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #21
Which one's the dog and which one's the pony? Iggo Sep 2022 #23
DeathSantis and Greg Abbott are in a contest to out asshole TFG LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #24

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
3. Boys, boys don't fight over them. There's enough human pawns to go around
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:44 PM
Sep 2022

Available to anybody with no heart, soul or conscience

yankee87

(2,173 posts)
9. European Immigrants ?
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 10:59 PM
Sep 2022

Weird how there were no Irish, Italian, French, etc. I worked with Irish immigrants years ago, and they are plentiful. I’ll give you one guess.

LeftInTX

(25,406 posts)
10. That's because overseas migrants require a passport or Visa to even get on a plane or ship.
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 11:05 PM
Sep 2022

Migrants from Mexico are routinely admitted if they have a passport or passcard. Many Mexican citizens go back and forth daily. Passport holders are not being sent on buses.

yankee87

(2,173 posts)
20. Staying past the visad
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 12:47 AM
Sep 2022

Again, back when I was involved, the young would just stay after the visa expired.

LeftInTX

(25,406 posts)
22. Yes, you can get deported for staying past your visa
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 01:28 AM
Sep 2022

The people who bused crossed the border without a passport or visa.
They were detained by ICE until they had passed a background check and were given asylum court dates and turned loose. They can legally stay in the US until the results of their asylum case is decided. Many of the processed Venezuelans are homeless because they do not have host families. There would be nothing the matter with Abbott giving them bus trips to better locations, if they would coordinate with other cities and assure that their court hearings will be followed through. If they do not show up at their hearing, they will not be eligible for asylum. People from Ireland are not eligible for asylum.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
12. I keep hoping for the day
Sun Sep 25, 2022, 11:14 PM
Sep 2022

when the GOP is down to two angry men screaming at each other with claims that each is more conservative than the other.

Might as well be these guys.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,345 posts)
24. DeathSantis and Greg Abbott are in a contest to out asshole TFG
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 04:34 PM
Sep 2022

I am amused that Abbott thinks that he is a contended for the 2014 nomination, but Abbott is trying to out asshole DeathSantis to be the frontrunner if TFG is convicted. Both have engaged in serious election denial and voter suppression. Abbott started banning gendering affirming treatment for Trans youths and DeathSantis has followed.

Greg got a leg up on DeathSantis by bussing refugees and asylum seekers up to Democratic controlled cities and so DeathSantis had to get into this violation of the law and civil rights.

The goal of both of these assholes is to appeal to TFG supporters and try to be the GOP 2024 nominee. This contest is really sad and innocent persons/refugees are being hurt




https://www.rawstory.com/ron-desantis-tries-to-trump-trump-with-cynical-sadistic-migrant-flights/

There were so many scandals during the Trump years that it's hard to remember all. Some stand out, of course, like his blatant obstruction of justice in the Russia investigation and his attempted extortion against the Ukrainian government in hopes of smearing Joe Biden. And of course Trump went out with a bang, attempting a coup and inciting an insurrection. Those things got him impeached — and may end up getting him indicted. But there was so much more......

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott apparently saluted smartly and got right to work. By early August he was sending busloads of asylum-seekers to New York and Washington, D.C., "as part of the Governor's response to the Biden Administration's open border policies," as an official statement from his office put it. (Never mind that the Biden administration has no such policies.)

Those two cities have been coping with the influx, and a number of charities and churches have stepped in to help. This is stretching their already stretched systems, but so far no one has even contemplated putting the migrants on buses back to Houston or San Antonio (or maybe to other red-state cities) because the officials in New York and D.C., whatever their flaws, aren't monsters. They are trying to figure out ways to help these people find family members and get jobs and housing as they await hearings on whether they qualify to stay in the U.S.

Not to be outdone by Abbott's stunt, the GOP's current troll king, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, decided this week to take Carlson's advice to send asylum seekers to Martha's Vineyard, the affluent resort island off the coast of Massachusetts. Even though Florida is not a border state, DeSantis has already had the state legislature appropriate millions for the purpose of sending migrants out of state. (His lieutenant governor made a major gaffe, however, when she suggested the state might use that money to send the recent influx of Cuban refugees back to that island, a huge political no-no in Florida.)

Since DeSantis didn't have any refugees readily available to expel this week, he used his forced deportation money to charter a couple of jets and coerce migrants who were in Texas — halfway across the country — to board them, claiming they were being sent to Boston with promises of resources and support. Instead the migrants were dropped off on Martha's Vineyard, a famous summer resort with a year-round population of around 15,000. No one there knew they were coming, and they were essentially dumped at the island's tiny airport like cargo.

This contest is sick and sad. I was pleased to see the good people of Martha' Vineyard step up





I am hopeful that DeathSantis and Abbott will be prosecuted for these stunts


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