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edhopper

(33,580 posts)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 09:29 AM Sep 2022

Will Simena switch Parties

if the GOP takes the Senate in November? It looks like she is leaning that way. The way she is cozying up to Mitch, she gets more power in the majority.
She is sure to be primaried in 2024, she might think she has a better shot as a sitting Republican Senator.
Pure speculation on my part.

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Will Simena switch Parties (Original Post) edhopper Sep 2022 OP
Good question! The way she acts, it's only natural to wonder! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2022 #1
Shaking my Tulsi Gabbard Magic Ball. . . HELL YES! TheBlackAdder Sep 2022 #12
She'll go after where the most money is ... IMO. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2022 #2
Yes. She is a parasite. GoCubsGo Sep 2022 #21
This is true. edhopper Sep 2022 #30
I'm listening to Olbermann's podcast right now CatWoman Sep 2022 #3
Olbermann should have enough common sense to realize that we need her right now until we can get JohnSJ Sep 2022 #6
"Arizona's governor would be required by law to name a Democratic replacement" Doc Sportello Sep 2022 #8
No I didn't. Regardless of what the polls may say, no one knows what the midterms hold, but most JohnSJ Sep 2022 #32
Sinema's behavior might be explained by deep personality issues and needs. empedocles Sep 2022 #7
Or by take the money and run syndrome. Voltaire2 Sep 2022 #14
. . . and, or empedocles Sep 2022 #25
Need to catch up with Countdown w/KO..last night listened to Mea Culpa with asiliveandbreathe Sep 2022 #28
i take it MC has a podcast? CatWoman Sep 2022 #40
I get my podcast at spotify..but you can try this link..w/o subscription asiliveandbreathe Sep 2022 #42
ty CatWoman Sep 2022 #44
I don't think they will take the senate Johonny Sep 2022 #4
Sinema could just see what way the winds & currents are moving in relation empedocles Sep 2022 #9
Or maybe McConnell is courting her Big Blue Marble Sep 2022 #5
Who cares, everybody, even repukes hate her. we can do it Sep 2022 #10
She would lose a GQP primary too. themaguffin Sep 2022 #11
She already has RainCaster Sep 2022 #13
No she hasn't she caucuses with us or Biden would get no judges. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #29
We are likely to get enough seats where she won't matter. Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #15
She could not win a 2024 GOP primary Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #16
But then she wouldn't be "special" anymore Walleye Sep 2022 #17
And neither will Manchin Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #33
If Republicans take control. I don't see it happening. LiberalFighter Sep 2022 #18
You mean there's a chance she could become a Democrat? ElementaryPenguin Sep 2022 #19
... jcgoldie Sep 2022 #20
Follow the money! Emile Sep 2022 #22
Don't worry BradAllison Sep 2022 #23
I do not know which party she could do better in the primaries karynnj Sep 2022 #24
As noted yesterday Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #34
I doubt it. Why would the GOP trust a turncoat? Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #26
She voted for the Inflation Reduction Act when no Republicans did. tinrobot Sep 2022 #27
There's just something not right with her JustAnotherGen Sep 2022 #31
Somebody on Twitter yesterday Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #35
I did not know that JustAnotherGen Sep 2022 #37
I would be very surprised. BlueCheeseAgain Sep 2022 #36
I'm more worried about Manchin Tickle Sep 2022 #38
Will ? She already has Mr. Sparkle Sep 2022 #39
No Johnny2X2X Sep 2022 #41
From the sounds of it, she's all but "doing" McConnell, so I'd guess it would be yes. Vinca Sep 2022 #43

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
21. Yes. She is a parasite.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 10:52 AM
Sep 2022

She's much like Lindsey Graham, who latches onto powerful people. Kyrsten latches onto whoever will make her money

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
3. I'm listening to Olbermann's podcast right now
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 09:32 AM
Sep 2022

EPISODE 41: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN 9.27.22
KYRSTEN SINEMA SHOULD RESIGN

A-Block (1:45) SPECIAL COMMENT: I do not know how or why Senator Sinema of Arizona can still identify as a Democrat after appearing with Mitch McConnell at an event that was for all intents and purposes a Republican Campaign Rally for the mid-terms. Sinema praised McConnell for his "respect for the Senate" even though it was McConnell who made up a rule that denied Merrick Garland even a hearing for the Supreme Court and stole the seat for the Republicans. She blamed everybody BUT the Republicans for politics becoming "radicalized, spiraling steadily downward into bitter and tribal extremism" and never mentioned January 6th. She forecast a Democratic defeat in November. (9:53) I explain my personal relationship with Kyrsten Sinema, first as a friend, then in a brief dating relationship, then again as a friend, spanning nearly eight years, and her deterioration from as liberal and progressive a person as I've ever met to a clown who has fallen for Mitch McConnell's act. She should resign from the Senate - Arizona's governor would be required by law to name a Democratic replacement - and take her deliberate unwillingness to recognize the threat to democracy posed by the Republicans, and utilize it either to challenge Tulsi Gabbard for the role OF Tulsi Gabbard, or go host "Meet The Press."

https://link.chtbl.com/countdownwithkeitholbermann

JohnSJ

(92,204 posts)
6. Olbermann should have enough common sense to realize that we need her right now until we can get
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 09:38 AM
Sep 2022

the Senate by at least a two seat majority.

At this stage this talk is nonesense, and our prime focus should be the midterms, and winning enough seats in both Houses so we don't need her



Doc Sportello

(7,522 posts)
8. "Arizona's governor would be required by law to name a Democratic replacement"
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 09:45 AM
Sep 2022

Maybe you overlooked that part. If she resigned a Democrat - by law - would be appointed. So obviously he is aware of the Senate numbers.

JohnSJ

(92,204 posts)
32. No I didn't. Regardless of what the polls may say, no one knows what the midterms hold, but most
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:30 PM
Sep 2022

importantly, she isn’t going to resign, and we shouldn’t be trying to push her out right before the midterms



empedocles

(15,751 posts)
7. Sinema's behavior might be explained by deep personality issues and needs.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 09:44 AM
Sep 2022

A need to show her 'independence' with surges of rebellliousness.

' . . . The senior senator from Arizona — the first woman to represent Arizona in the Senate, the first Democrat elected to that body from that state since 1995, and the first openly bisexual senator — has never hidden her identity as a maverick. In fact, she’s advertised it. Pretty much every day. . . '

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/style/kyrsten-sinema-style.html

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
28. Need to catch up with Countdown w/KO..last night listened to Mea Culpa with
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:11 AM
Sep 2022

Michael Cohen..his guest David Enrich, who wrote Servants of the Damned..talk about how Jones Day Law firm has represented the Walton fam...as they distributed drugs across America..filled our judicial branch of govt with sycophants..etc etc..a real eye opener..astonishing -

Rachel had Enrich on couple weeks ago..but not as in depth as this episode of Mea Culpa..truly jaw dropping..

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
42. I get my podcast at spotify..but you can try this link..w/o subscription
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 03:01 PM
Sep 2022
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen/id1530639447

I was able to hit play at link..the podcast from sept. 25th...

I have been trying to get this story about Jones Day out of my head today ..I fear for our judicial system..ONE firm has been reeking havoc

Another link..with review of Servants of the Damned..

https://www.harperacademic.com/book/9780063142176/servants-of-the-damned/

Delivering a "devastating" (Carol Leonnig) exposé of the astonishing yet shadowy power wielded by the world’s largest law firms, David Enrich traces how one firm shielded opioid makers, gun companies, big tobacco, Russian oligarchs, Fox News, the Catholic Church, and much of the Fortune 500; helped Donald Trump get elected, govern, and evade investigation; masterminded the conservative remaking of the courts . . . and make a killing along the way

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
4. I don't think they will take the senate
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 09:33 AM
Sep 2022

I assume she will continue to be a Rand Paul style attention seeker that screws their own party.

She probably has a better chance to win a primary if the GOP win the senate as then she can argue how valuable her seat is and all the attention will be on hating the GOP majority.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
9. Sinema could just see what way the winds & currents are moving in relation
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 09:57 AM
Sep 2022

to her own boat, - and make her decision at the most advantageous time.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
29. No she hasn't she caucuses with us or Biden would get no judges.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:23 AM
Sep 2022

My hope is that she doesn't move to GOP as having her warm body helps us regardless of how she votes. We should be able to elect a new Senator in 24.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
15. We are likely to get enough seats where she won't matter.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 10:32 AM
Sep 2022

Everyone hates her so her career is pretty much over.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,619 posts)
16. She could not win a 2024 GOP primary
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 10:39 AM
Sep 2022

So, she won’t switch parties unless she plans to end her senate career in 2024.

Regardless, her senate career will end in 2024.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
33. And neither will Manchin
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:36 PM
Sep 2022

but he seems less likely to switch. I don't trust Sinema as far as I can throw her.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
24. I do not know which party she could do better in the primaries
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:01 AM
Sep 2022

In the Republican party, her past in the green and the Democratic party will be held against her. It also looks like the Arizona Republican party is more than half VERY RW given the winners of this year's Republican party. I don't think the Republicans will keep her even if McConnell were to promise her he would support her. (On our side remember Senator Spector?)

However, she is currently very unpopular among Democrats - and not just the liberals and progressives like us! I would bet that in the 2 years before her election she might be able to fix that if she were seen as less of a flake and more supportive of Democratic issues.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
34. As noted yesterday
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:37 PM
Sep 2022

she seems to currently be unpopular with everybody right now. She could wind up in a party of one.

Irish_Dem

(47,114 posts)
26. I doubt it. Why would the GOP trust a turncoat?
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:09 AM
Sep 2022

She would face the loss of attention she craves.
And loss of her bribe revenue.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
27. She voted for the Inflation Reduction Act when no Republicans did.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:10 AM
Sep 2022

So, she's still ever-so-slightly on our side.

I think she's doing it as a power play. She sees how much attention it gets her with a split Senate, so she teases both Mitch and the Democrats. If she switched parties, she'd immediately go to the bottom of the GOP pile.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
35. Somebody on Twitter yesterday
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:38 PM
Sep 2022

was talking about her being an ex-Mormon and how that might be affecting her current behavior. Don't know how much stock to put into that but it's a theory.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
37. I did not know that
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 02:05 PM
Sep 2022

That she was LDS. Eh? I've known plenty of Mormons in my life - but it's not that.

She's off. There's something about her personality and 'all over the place' that disturbs me.

If I have to think of another politician that rubs me the same way? Marsha Blackburn.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
36. I would be very surprised.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:58 PM
Sep 2022

I think people greatly underestimate the gulf between even the most moderate Dems and GOP. Sinema voted for every major piece of Biden legislation, all of Biden's judges, and voted to convict Trump twice in impeachment trials. No GOP senator comes anywhere close to that.

Yes, she and Manchin can be very aggravating to deal with. But they are far from being Republican. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski have far more conservative records than them.

Tickle

(2,521 posts)
38. I'm more worried about Manchin
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 02:11 PM
Sep 2022

becoming an independent and voting with repubs than I am with Simena becoming a republican. supposedly he won't vote to fund the government unless he can attach his bill to it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/25/joe-manchin-big-oil-side-spending-deal-democrats/


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