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Baitball Blogger

(46,715 posts)
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:23 AM Sep 2022

So, Putin's reasoning for continuing his war with Ukraine is based on

Ukrainians in eastern provinces that identify with Russia and want to join Russia.

Two questions:

1) What would happen if Putin expands conscription to include these people in the war effort? Would they still have warm cockles for the war when they're forced to fight without weapons or back-up?

2) All those Russians leaving Russia is going to leave a void in Russia. Why don't the Russians who are living in the disputed lands just move back into Russia to fill that void?

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So, Putin's reasoning for continuing his war with Ukraine is based on (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Sep 2022 OP
If they are ruskie sympathizers, gtf out of Ukraine. SheltieLover Sep 2022 #1
Qpublicans yankee87 Sep 2022 #3
I'd contribute to a go fund me under 2 conditions: SheltieLover Sep 2022 #5
Same! PortTack Sep 2022 #11
👍 SheltieLover Sep 2022 #12
Moron Traitor Greene should lead the way. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #14
ANYONE, ANYWHERE who wants to be in Russia... dchill Sep 2022 #2
Absolutely! SheltieLover Sep 2022 #4
Isn't Putin using the same strategy HERE? usonian Sep 2022 #6
"I hate Illinois nazis" Ray Bruns Sep 2022 #7
He's already conscripting men with Russian passports in those regions. haele Sep 2022 #8
War in Donbas since 2014. moondust Sep 2022 #9
That's what I was going to say. ananda Sep 2022 #10
In answer to question #1, I believe Russia is indeed drafting residents in the occupied territories. Martin68 Sep 2022 #13

yankee87

(2,173 posts)
3. Qpublicans
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:30 AM
Sep 2022

Time for the Putin loving Qpublican party members to help their hero. Putin. No one will stop them leaving

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
5. I'd contribute to a go fund me under 2 conditions:
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:32 AM
Sep 2022

First, renounce US citizenship, never to return, and

One-way tickets only!



dchill

(38,497 posts)
2. ANYONE, ANYWHERE who wants to be in Russia...
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:27 AM
Sep 2022

...should WHAT? That's right, move to Russia. It's big enough.

usonian

(9,809 posts)
6. Isn't Putin using the same strategy HERE?
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:43 AM
Sep 2022

Thanks to his "Supreme Comrades", we are already a nation of slave states and free states.

This sociopath AND ALL HIS LACKEYS IN THE UNITED STATES need to be stopped, and stuffed.

Into the dumpster (or the nearest river)

haele

(12,659 posts)
8. He's already conscripting men with Russian passports in those regions.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 11:48 AM
Sep 2022

There have been recorded complaints by the non-Russian residents in the 'disputed' regions of Ukraine since early summer about violations of local defense service and conscription terms with the Russians.
When these 'referendums' pass, everyone that doesn't already have a Russian passport gets one, and they will forcibly conscript more local men.

Also, as has been happening throughout this war, if a Ukrainian in an occupied area doesn't have or accept a Russian passport, they risk getting shipped off to Vladivostok, and their babies and young toddlers get sent to ethnic Russians to be adopted (if they're Russian looking enough) to make up for a declining Russian birth rate.

Haele

moondust

(19,985 posts)
9. War in Donbas since 2014.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 12:16 PM
Sep 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas

Some of the local "separatists" there have been fighting since the annexation of Crimea. The Minsk agreements tried to stop the fighting there but obviously didn't hold. Russia handed out a million Russian passports to the Ukrainian separatists in 2020. The whole time I've wondered why the separatists didn't just move to Russia if that's where they want to live.

Martin68

(22,803 posts)
13. In answer to question #1, I believe Russia is indeed drafting residents in the occupied territories.
Tue Sep 27, 2022, 01:27 PM
Sep 2022

As for question #2, like Ukranians in the rest of the country, the Russian-speaking Ukranians in the east don't want to leave their homes.

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