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Swede

(33,266 posts)
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 09:51 PM Oct 2022

The Russian rapper Ivan Petunin has committed suicide. He left a message about mobilization.

He said he refuses to murder another man.

He said Putin has taken all Russian men captive, leaving them with 3 choices: becoming a murderer, going to prison or suicide.



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The Russian rapper Ivan Petunin has committed suicide. He left a message about mobilization. (Original Post) Swede Oct 2022 OP
Whoa.... Pachamama Oct 2022 #1
There are more than 3 choices blue-wave Oct 2022 #2
I'd say he did the ultimate protest, actually. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #4
You're right, of course. dchill Oct 2022 #5
He chose the third of only three choices localroger Oct 2022 #6
That choice would lead to prison, in his view. nt pnwmom Oct 2022 #10
I think that's where the jail part comes in lame54 Oct 2022 #22
Another reason to hate that fucking POS Putin. Grown2Hate Oct 2022 #3
Someone willing to kill himself to say "Fuck You" yo Putin. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author RestoreAmerica2020 Oct 2022 #11
He forgot the 4th option: Getting RID OF PUTIN Obvious85 Oct 2022 #8
Russian intimidation is keeping them from resisting vlad lindysalsagal Oct 2022 #9
K n R with... JoeOtterbein Oct 2022 #12
He's an Artist Roy Rolling Oct 2022 #13
I couldn't say it better BigmanPigman Oct 2022 #14
If the ultimate goal of government NJCher Oct 2022 #15
Or, you could join and get your gun Eko Oct 2022 #16
Sad..because there was another very viable option..surrender PortTack Oct 2022 #17
Has the method he chose been reported? msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #18
Jumped off a building. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #19
holy moly. I didn't think people actually did that on purpose. msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #20
Glory to Ukraine!💙💛 Cha Oct 2022 #21

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. Whoa....
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:05 PM
Oct 2022

That was intense - and very brave and courageous. Something I never thought I would say that about suicide.

He spoke the truth and perhaps may actually get the message to the Russian people about what the maniac Putin is doing and the choices he is forcing upon them.

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
2. There are more than 3 choices
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:08 PM
Oct 2022

What about staying alive and fighting through protest (protest comes in many forms) for the soul of your country to help Ukraine and the world


RIP

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,370 posts)
4. I'd say he did the ultimate protest, actually.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:17 PM
Oct 2022

Besides, staying alive isn't always a choice once one has been drafted.

localroger

(3,629 posts)
6. He chose the third of only three choices
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:27 PM
Oct 2022

The government gave him only two: Go to the front and kill (and likely be killed), or go to prison. He decided to show them that there is a third choice. Given the circumstances, the availability of a fourth choice would have depended on a lot of luck. But the third choice he chose is always there.

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
3. Another reason to hate that fucking POS Putin.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:11 PM
Oct 2022

May this gentle soul rest in peace, and may the other mother fucker find himself in pieces. Devastating.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,528 posts)
7. Someone willing to kill himself to say "Fuck You" yo Putin.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:29 PM
Oct 2022

But I hope the vast majority of Russian's say fuck you to Putin - by finding the SOB and wasting him in public in Red Square..

Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #7)

lindysalsagal

(20,712 posts)
9. Russian intimidation is keeping them from resisting vlad
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 11:38 PM
Oct 2022

They're all intimidated. Possibly, our 4 year terms are the most brilliant idea of all. Planned obsolescence.

Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
13. He's an Artist
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 12:30 AM
Oct 2022

Of course there’s millions of choices but he chose to hightlight three. That’s what artists do, they make us focus on something among the chaos of a million choices. It’s his artistic statement, he gets to choose the number he wants.

The importance of his art will be measured by if this act makes a difference in Russian men being used as cannon fodder.

Stopping war is a beautiful thing, if he helps make it happen he’s a hero.

NJCher

(35,694 posts)
15. If the ultimate goal of government
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 01:03 AM
Oct 2022

Is to make an environment in which every human, animal, and nature can thrive, this death shows that Putin is doing the opposite. He is killing, and in this case, a young, creative spirit.

Eko

(7,327 posts)
16. Or, you could join and get your gun
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 01:47 AM
Oct 2022

and go after your commander or higher. Respect to him for not fighting, but then again no respect for not fighting and giving up. Its not going to change if people kill themselves, the people in charge will still be in charge. If you want to make a difference you have to make a difference.

PortTack

(32,783 posts)
17. Sad..because there was another very viable option..surrender
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:22 AM
Oct 2022

President Zelensky made a statement directly to russian men being called to fight

1.surrender and you will be treated in accordance with the Geneva convention
2. Your identity will remain anonymous
3. If you fear going back to russian, you may apply for asylum. He’s not a war criminal so he would have definitely been given asylum

msfiddlestix

(7,284 posts)
18. Has the method he chose been reported?
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 09:08 AM
Oct 2022

I wonder about his family and friends, how they're coping, and how they're dealing.



msfiddlestix

(7,284 posts)
20. holy moly. I didn't think people actually did that on purpose.
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:34 PM
Oct 2022

on the other hand, it certainly couldn't go unnoticed.

golly jeeze.



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