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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Russian rapper Ivan Petunin has committed suicide. He left a message about mobilization.
He said he refuses to murder another man.
He said Putin has taken all Russian men captive, leaving them with 3 choices: becoming a murderer, going to prison or suicide.
Link to tweet
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Pachamama
(16,887 posts)That was intense - and very brave and courageous. Something I never thought I would say that about suicide.
He spoke the truth and perhaps may actually get the message to the Russian people about what the maniac Putin is doing and the choices he is forcing upon them.
blue-wave
(4,356 posts)What about staying alive and fighting through protest (protest comes in many forms) for the soul of your country to help Ukraine and the world
RIP
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,370 posts)Besides, staying alive isn't always a choice once one has been drafted.
dchill
(38,511 posts)localroger
(3,629 posts)The government gave him only two: Go to the front and kill (and likely be killed), or go to prison. He decided to show them that there is a third choice. Given the circumstances, the availability of a fourth choice would have depended on a lot of luck. But the third choice he chose is always there.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)lame54
(35,298 posts)Grown2Hate
(2,013 posts)May this gentle soul rest in peace, and may the other mother fucker find himself in pieces. Devastating.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,528 posts)But I hope the vast majority of Russian's say fuck you to Putin - by finding the SOB and wasting him in public in Red Square..
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Obvious85
(259 posts)By any means possible
lindysalsagal
(20,712 posts)They're all intimidated. Possibly, our 4 year terms are the most brilliant idea of all. Planned obsolescence.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...(tears).
Roy Rolling
(6,925 posts)Of course theres millions of choices but he chose to hightlight three. Thats what artists do, they make us focus on something among the chaos of a million choices. Its his artistic statement, he gets to choose the number he wants.
The importance of his art will be measured by if this act makes a difference in Russian men being used as cannon fodder.
Stopping war is a beautiful thing, if he helps make it happen hes a hero.
BigmanPigman
(51,614 posts)and couldn't agree more!
NJCher
(35,694 posts)Is to make an environment in which every human, animal, and nature can thrive, this death shows that Putin is doing the opposite. He is killing, and in this case, a young, creative spirit.
Eko
(7,327 posts)and go after your commander or higher. Respect to him for not fighting, but then again no respect for not fighting and giving up. Its not going to change if people kill themselves, the people in charge will still be in charge. If you want to make a difference you have to make a difference.
PortTack
(32,783 posts)President Zelensky made a statement directly to russian men being called to fight
1.surrender and you will be treated in accordance with the Geneva convention
2. Your identity will remain anonymous
3. If you fear going back to russian, you may apply for asylum. Hes not a war criminal so he would have definitely been given asylum
msfiddlestix
(7,284 posts)I wonder about his family and friends, how they're coping, and how they're dealing.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,370 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,284 posts)on the other hand, it certainly couldn't go unnoticed.
golly jeeze.