What happens to all the debris from the hurricane?

[milestogo]

Landfill, I suppose?

[bucolic_frolic]

1. Some salvage I suppose

But insurance will pay for a lot of replacement. For the next hurricane.

[3Hotdogs]

2. Landfill.Then washed out to see in the category 6 storm of 2031. It uncovers the landfill,

takes out the debris from the landfill and adds it to the destroyed buildings that were built on vacant land in Ft. Meyers.


--- but as long as the banks, builders and real estate agents get enough money to bribe politicians........

[Brenda]

24. Yep, it really is a sickening thing.

And the media cheers them on for Rebuilding Bigger and Better! each time.

My only quibble is with your date. Will happen before 2031.

[multigraincracker]

3. I found it....

[Sympthsical]

12. Thomas really needs an intervention.

Meth - not even once.

[yardwork]

20. Lol!

[fightforfreedom]

4. Dump it at Trumps resort.

[dembotoz]

5. i would like to think some effort would be made at some point to separte recycle metals and such

but i doubt it.

[Lochloosa]

9. I've worked on debis cleanup for major disasters.

It is separated and what cann be sent to recycle is. Refrigerants are required to be recycled also.

[dembotoz]

6. You see archeologists digging thru waste piles of long ago to make assumptions about the people who

lived there

what will they say about us

[DBoon]

7. DeSantis will ship it to a blue state

and dump it in a highly Democratic neighborhood

[Srkdqltr]

10. Good grief don't give him any ideas.!

[VGNonly]

27. You could leave it at

1100 S. Ocean Blvd. Palm Beach FL

[Chainfire]

8. While there is plenty of salvageable materials, there is no profit it it.

The prime focus will be to the materials cleaned up and to the dump as quickly as possible. For an old tightwad recycler like me, it is a heartbreak, but that is the way it is. There is an incredible amount of money that is about to be spent in the affected areas. I live near Interstate 10, and the traffic of equipment heading East on the way to Central Florida is quite impressive. A man with a Bobcat and a dump truck will be able to get rich in a few weeks.

I did the same thing after Hurricane Andrew. I went to Miami to work as a construction estimator with a company that I had been doing business with in Tallahassee. During those post hurricane days and months, all a man had to do to get a good paying job was to put on a nail apron, and stand on the sidewalk; and it didn't much matter if his last job was in a hamburger joint.

[Lochloosa]

11. A lot has changed in debris cleanup since Andrew.

The recyclable material is separated and all refrigerant has to be captured. But you are right about making money with a cat and truck. If you are willing to hustle.

[Chainfire]

14. They were recovering refrigerant at the time of the Andrew cleanup.

It is funny that you mention that as it brings a story to mind: While Miami-Dade was threating bloody murder for intentional release of refrigerant, they did not practice what they preached. There was an abandoned home across the street from where I lived, that was becoming a hazard. The neighbors pressured the city to condemn and remove the structure. We were finally successful and I was watching when the demo started. There were building officials and politicians present, and the very first thing that happened is the front-end loader snatched out the AC compressor releasing a cloud of Freon. No one seemed to notice but my neighbor and I.

I suspect, without facts to support me, that what will happen is debris will be shoved into a dumpster and taken to the landfills and that there will not be the time or resources to sort out the good 2x4 from a closet full of wet moldering clothes. But I could be wrong.

[Lochloosa]

16. You're right about the 2Xs. They will go to the landfill.

What you will see is huge piles of washers, refrigerators etc.

[Chainfire]

17. You are right about that.

One of the interesting things about Andrew, that will never be repeated, is that in the first month after the storm, Insurance companies were handing out money like it was water. I saw it from the construction end. We got anything we asked for....I remember one case where the adjuster wrote off the entire house because of a crack in the foundation, that in my opinion, had been there years before the storm. For a homeowner and builder those first few weeks were glory days. I can't recall for sure, but if my memory serves me, that went on for about six weeks and then the insurance companies must have realized that they were bleeding out and started to question every claim.

I bet that homeowners in Central Florida will be in for a beating after the beating when the claims adjuster comes around.

By next year, only the wealthy will be able to buy a hurricane protection policy in the state. We saw a bit of that early this year when insurance companies started sending out cancellation notices. I got one that demanded that I replace my roof or be dropped, and then would not guarantee coverage, or quote a price if I did replace the roof. They did this without an onsite visit. My roof is, in fact, very good, and still under the bonding agreement. It was about cancelling the policy, not about the roof.

When we started searching out other companies, we found some of them would not insure any home over 15 years old! Nobody wanted to write a policy on a house built in 1999 under the enhanced codes brought into effect after Andrew.

[Ferrets are Cool]

19. "By next year, only the wealthy will be able to buy a hurricane protection policy in the state."

You are so right. It will be ridiculously high.

[Lochloosa]

21. My wife and I are looking for a place in eastern NC for that very reason.

[mitch96]

22. " Insurance companies were handing out money like it was water.". So True..I went thru Andrew

and had minimal damage. My insurance company at the time, State Farm called ME!
They veritably threw the money at me. "You DID lose $500 worth of frozen meat, right Right?" I'm a half ass vegan with no meat in the house..
"if there is any roof damage to the patio, we will replace the whole thing".. Granted it was only $5000 but I thought it was strange State Farm kept trying to give me more than the damage would allow...
Then State Farm left the state in 1993... go figure...
m

[Hortensis]

13. I don't know how much is used so far, but masonry-type debris

should be very useful -- if economical. Florida's so flat, mostly sandy (most places a rock is something to stop and take a picture of), that just a load of dirt can be expensive, and a lot of crushed rock, etc, will be needed to build roads, seawalls, raise elevations, etc.

No doubt contractors will be purchasing some, but on what scale?

[Chainfire]

15. The problem is in the practicality of separating the debris. In the past, it has never been

the effort. Right now, expediency will be king, and that will last for some months.

[gratuitous]

18. According to the former guy

You can just claim any boat that comes to rest on your property.

Lest you think I'm kidding.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

29. Whose Boat Is This Boat?

Colbert opening, Posted by Rhiannon12866
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017519697

Turned into a children's book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whose_Boat_Is_This_Boat

"100% of The Late Show’s proceeds from this book go to disaster relief."

[Model35mech]

23. I sea where you are going...

but I think it's a low probability that a landfill would be stripped of it's cover.

[milestogo]

25. Well I wasn't going anywhere except to ask

what happens with this huge amount of debris that has been generated by the hurricane.

It seems like you would need a huge number of dumpsters taken away and replaced to clean it all up.

[Model35mech]

26. While the rubble is mostly urban/suburban, the dumps are in rural places

Because of the red-blue geography of America I would hazard a prediction...

The rubble will end up in dumps in rural areas. The urban and suburban areas destroyed will be given money to send their storm refuse to rural landfills.

Cleaning up cities, zones of concentrated human activity, will require sending the storm refuse to places of less concentrated human activity.

Thanks a lot for providing, at a cost, te landfill that raises the recipient landscape above the rise in sea-level.

Soon all that will be above the water in coastal areas is the tops of mountainous middens of refuse

Hey, that's life and a whole lot of people's futures.