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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPhiladelphia elected a progressive prosecutor twice. The state government wants to fire him anyway.
VoxRepublicans say their investigation is about seeking solutions for rising crime, but for the past five years, theyve been eager to connect their anti-Krasner rhetoric to the broader Democratic Party a narrative that has fueled backlash against progressive prosecutors in other cities and painted Democrats as anti-police. Pennsylvanias investigation started just weeks after San Francisco voters recalled their progressive prosecutor Chesa Boudin.
Krasners allies see the probe as a cynical stunt by a Republican-controlled legislature that both underfunds Philadelphia and blocks its leaders from passing tougher gun laws. They also view it as a dangerously anti-democratic effort to overturn the will of Philadelphia voters akin to the effort to overturn the citys votes for Biden in the 2020 election.
The committee, dubbed the Select Committee on Restoring Law and Order, was voted into existence by nearly all House Republican lawmakers in June. Its already embroiled in one legal battle with Krasner, who has objected in court to their sweeping request for documents. To impeach Krasner, the committee might have to demonstrate evidence of misbehavior or corruption not just ideological disagreement and that could end up being the subject of yet another court fight.
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dsp3000
(489 posts)JohnSJ
(92,409 posts)nycbos
(6,038 posts)Boudin was removed by the voters of SF in a recall election.
Kranser won two elections. The Republicans in the state legislature are trying to do a power grab.
I'm not from Philadelphia. I'm going to take an educated guess that some of the criticisms of him are fair confirm or not. Most things in life are not black and white.
JohnSJ
(92,409 posts)PCIntern
(25,585 posts)And they are very unhappy or have left. In Center City wherein my office is located there is no penalty for shoplifting because the police wont show up so people just take stuff and calmly walk out.
Also other stuff going on
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Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)more likely than not a rw talking point promoted by the FOP. The cops hate Krasner because he's been discovering police misconduct and holding them accountable. The state legislature Rs are holding hearings because they want to scare voters.
I was recently told by friends who live in Pgh that they see a lot of shoplifting at a store they frequent and the Pgh DA isn't a "progressive DA". Shoplifting is deterred by cameras and by having enough employees on duty to be able to observe shoppers. Convenience and dollar type stores, that I'm assuming have the biggest shoplifting problem, never have enough workers on duty to deter it. Nothing is stopping any business from hiring private security to prevent shoplifting on their premisis.
PCIntern
(25,585 posts)Without question our police are corrupt to the core. I know of a story so explosive that it would make National news, but wouldnt have dared at the time to say a word. But what goes on in my area that Ive witnessed is beyond belief. Petty crime is not ok if youre a constant victim and there is no threat of punishment.
Perception is everything in LE and it is a given that its ok to shoot people and assume that unless its a significant homicide, nothings going to happen.
nycbos
(6,038 posts)Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)on customers and deter shoplifting. But that crime isn't unique to areas where DAs aren't prioritizing prosecuting it.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,503 posts)Hes done some good things as far as getting falsely convicted people out of prison but the rampant quality of life crime is the result of his revolving door policy.
Hes likely to become the next mayor. Gods help us if he does.
dsp3000
(489 posts)he would lose the primary easily.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,503 posts)He crushed in the last primary and general despite these same problems and he enjoys a 50+% approval rating overall. Its even higher in the highest crime areas which seems insane to me.
I dont see anyone on the council who can challenge him if he decides to run and the Philly GOP is an absolute joke. That clown they ran last time is highly indicative of what the people who hate Krasner want.
Theres a huge section of racist MAGAt types in my part of the city. They have no real juice as a citywide bloc.
If Larry runs, I dont see him losing.
nycbos
(6,038 posts)I'm guessing the folks there feel they can't call the police for help if they're in trouble. Probably due to either lack of trust or they feel they will be the next victim if they'd testify against one of the gangsters.
From what I read SF voters had very legitimate grievances with Boudin.
It seems similar in this case.
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)the victims of the policies DAs like Krasner are trying to change. They are the ones tossed in jail and don't have even the 10% of bail required for release. They are the ones who bear the brunt of aggressive or corrupt policing and prosecutions. No wonder they support him.
The code of silence when it comes to "ratting" out perps long preceded Krasner or any other DA of his ilk.
nycbos
(6,038 posts)That's why I said some of the criticisms of him are fair and some aren't.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts).....not the best.
All of the city's problems are not his fault. These have been a long time coming and people need to know there is a sizeable GOP-loving block in Philly that will always vote against progress. That said, I don't think Krasner is the man for the job.
brooklynite
(94,737 posts)"The State" doesn't want to fire him. The House Republicans do. And nothing in the story indicates that they have the authority to remove him.