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Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:04 PM Oct 2022

🚨 Biden is taking executive action on marijuana reform



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philip lewis
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NEWS: Today Biden is taking executive action on marijuana reform

1) Announcing a pardon of all prior federal offenses of simple possession of marijuana

2) Urging all governors to do the same for state offenses

3) Asking HHS & AG to review how it is scheduled under federal law
12:01 PM · Oct 6, 2022








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President Biden
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Oct 6, 2022
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As I’ve said before, no one should be in jail just for using or possessing marijuana.

Today, I’m taking steps to end our failed approach. Allow me to lay them out.

First: I’m pardoning all prior federal offenses of simple marijuana possession. There are thousands of people who were previously convicted of simple possession who may be denied employment, housing, or educational opportunities as a result. My pardon will remove this burden.

Second: I’m calling on governors to pardon simple state marijuana possession offenses. Just as no one should be in a federal prison solely for possessing marijuana, no one should be in a local jail or state prison for that reason, either.

Third: We classify marijuana at the same level as heroin – and more serious than fentanyl. It makes no sense. I’m asking @SecBecerra and the Attorney General to initiate the process of reviewing how marijuana is scheduled under federal law.

I’d also like to note that as federal and state regulations change, we still need important limitations on trafficking, marketing, and underage sales of marijuana.

Sending people to jail for possessing marijuana has upended too many lives – for conduct that is legal in many states. That’s before you address the clear racial disparities around prosecution and conviction. Today, we begin to right these wrongs.
12:00 PM · Oct 6, 2022
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🚨 Biden is taking executive action on marijuana reform (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2022 OP
Excellent. Elessar Zappa Oct 2022 #1
This is great Johnny2X2X Oct 2022 #2
Wow! we can do it Oct 2022 #3
WOW! FalloutShelter Oct 2022 #4
That's how I read it Nevilledog Oct 2022 #5
Double WOW! FalloutShelter Oct 2022 #7
This is kinda outta the blue, no? Torchlight Oct 2022 #6
Great news. I think they are trying to time this before the midterms for max political effect. dsp3000 Oct 2022 #8
Our version of an October surprise AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #9
You got it, will help the midterms. KS Toronado Oct 2022 #34
This was a campaign promise Nevilledog Oct 2022 #10
Good. He's ticking them off one by one. Torchlight Oct 2022 #13
Yeah. With student loan forgiveness... BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2022 #27
Not out of the blue. It's been discussed a lot. GoodRaisin Oct 2022 #60
A good start. ETA: There are less than 7,000 people with this particular charge. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #11
Now legalize it Arazi Oct 2022 #12
It's been legal in MA for several years. Tracer Oct 2022 #18
Without federal legalization... SergeStorms Oct 2022 #45
+1 Emile Oct 2022 #62
Biden to pardon marijuana offenses, call for review of federal law LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #14
this is good news fishwax Oct 2022 #15
Kick dalton99a Oct 2022 #16
President Biden announces he's taking 3 BIG steps re marijuana today LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #17
Compassionate and humane governance gratuitous Oct 2022 #19
Cue the conservative "reefer madness" talking head types gay texan Oct 2022 #20
Nobody fucks with a Biden! Nevilledog Oct 2022 #21
My inherited billionaire governor- "Marijuana will kill your children" n/t hibbing Oct 2022 #32
As we use to say down south.... paleotn Oct 2022 #41
There are a heckuva lot of libertarian Republicans Wednesdays Oct 2022 #47
Exactly! paleotn Oct 2022 #51
My inherited billionaire Gov is better than yours mucifer Oct 2022 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author hibbing Oct 2022 #33
Too many lives have been upended because of our failed approach to marijuana LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #22
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Oct 2022 #23
Only an old white guy could do this. I love Biden. Hamlette Oct 2022 #24
Excellelnt! Will the maggats or Cha Oct 2022 #25
REEFER MADNESS, BABY! Nevilledog Oct 2022 #29
Foolish. That won't play well, even with most Republicans. paleotn Oct 2022 #40
LOL.. They're So GD STUPID it Cha Oct 2022 #53
Thank you President Biden! LittleGirl Oct 2022 #26
About damn time! BlueIdaho Oct 2022 #28
Promise made. Promise kept. LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #30
I was just thinking it. BidenRocks Oct 2022 #52
+1 llmart Oct 2022 #31
Only a start! James48 Oct 2022 #35
it's about damn time ZonkerHarris Oct 2022 #36
This is a VERY smart move. Behind the Aegis Oct 2022 #37
I 💕 this 👇 Nevilledog Oct 2022 #42
Here's the scheduling problem jmowreader Oct 2022 #38
To borrow a phrase from he who will not be named..... paleotn Oct 2022 #39
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2022 #43
According to Andy Borowitz ... soldierant Oct 2022 #44
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Oct 2022 #46
I love that guy. eom Maraya1969 Oct 2022 #48
Guess which governors won't pardon pot possessions... SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2022 #49
That's good news wendyb-NC Oct 2022 #50
Biden Releases Marijuana Offenders from Prison to Make Room for Trump Administration Danascot Oct 2022 #54
Yet another amazingly great move, imo gulliver Oct 2022 #55
I love this! It's the right thing to do. nt crickets Oct 2022 #56
A good step IbogaProject Oct 2022 #57
Timing is everything 👏👏👏👏 Murphyb849 Oct 2022 #58
KNR niyad Oct 2022 #61
this Cannibis (#16 Stoner) user approves this message: YoshidaYui Oct 2022 #63

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
2. This is great
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:12 PM
Oct 2022

And this will be very popular.

It's been talked about here, but I think bail reform is the next big civil rights topic that comes to the table. Setting bails that poor people can't pay doesn't offer equal justice under the law. Especially with a slower court system. For some people, getting caught for petty theft means embarrassment, getting booked, getting bailed out immediately and going home to live your life. To others it means losing your job, spending days, weeks, or months in jail awaiting trial. It can mean losing custody of children, or losing a car.

Torchlight

(3,341 posts)
6. This is kinda outta the blue, no?
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:20 PM
Oct 2022

Granted, I admit I know little of Biden's position, but has he been building towards this (short-term or long-term), or is this as much a surprise to everyone else, too?

I smoke, but not in a state that let's us, so I thought I had my ear to the ground about this on the state level and not so much the federal, and it's never looked to me that reducing the severity for pot was a major issue for him.

dsp3000

(486 posts)
8. Great news. I think they are trying to time this before the midterms for max political effect.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:23 PM
Oct 2022

And hopefully stymie the impending rising gas prices

Torchlight

(3,341 posts)
13. Good. He's ticking them off one by one.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:33 PM
Oct 2022

No drama. No rage-tweeting. No self-aggrandizement. Just a steady application of his promised policies going into effect.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
27. Yeah. With student loan forgiveness...
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:53 PM
Oct 2022

... there was a lot of news leading up to it about what President Biden might do.

While I'm sure people have been working on this, did anyone outside the administration know this was coming?

GoodRaisin

(8,923 posts)
60. Not out of the blue. It's been discussed a lot.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:50 PM
Oct 2022

We just didn’t know when. It’s what he said he would do during his campaign.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,355 posts)
11. A good start. ETA: There are less than 7,000 people with this particular charge.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:29 PM
Oct 2022

Still, as I say, a start. No drug should be criminalized.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
18. It's been legal in MA for several years.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:40 PM
Oct 2022

There are pot shops almost everywhere. However, they are quite expensive. So my daughter and friends grow their own (which is also legal, if you have 10 plants or fewer.)

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
45. Without federal legalization...
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 05:31 PM
Oct 2022

it means nothing to pain patients who've signed opioid contracts with their Doctors.

Every time I go to see my pain and symptom management Doctor I have to provide a urine sample that's tested for every drug under the sun: prescription and "street" drugs, which includes marijuana. If even a trace of THC is found it invalidates my opioid contract and the Doctor will no longer prescribe opiates for pain.

The CDC's recommendations for maximum percentage of opiates in the bloodstream (regardless of body mass) were cut by 2/3 a few years ago during the opiate scare. Yes, people were dying from opiate overdosing, but those people weren't pain management patients. They were people buying them on the street. Didn't matter. Pain management patients were forced to cut their dosage by 2/3. You can imagine what that did for the quality of their lives. Pain management patients were committing suicide because a lack of opiates.

So yeah, until marijuana is legalized by the federal government it means a great deal to pain patients.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,291 posts)
14. Biden to pardon marijuana offenses, call for review of federal law
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:35 PM
Oct 2022

These are major steps



https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/06/biden-to-pardon-marijuana-offenses-call-for-review-of-federal-law-00060796

President Joe Biden is planning to issue an executive order pardoning all people convicted of simple marijuana possession under federal law, senior administration officials said on Thursday, in what amounts to the most extensive White House action taken to date in U.S. drug policy.

The president will also be urging governors to do the same for cases regarding state offenses of civil possession of marijuana. In addition, he is asking the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the Attorney General to “expeditiously” review how marijuana is scheduled under federal law.

Currently, marijuana is classified as a Schedule I narcotic, meaning it’s deemed to have no medical use and a high potential for abuse. Heroin and LSD are other Schedule I drugs.

“The President has been clear that marijuana laws are not working,” said a senior administration official. “The president has been considering his options and he is now taking executive action.”

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Compassionate and humane governance
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:43 PM
Oct 2022

Fiscally responsible, too. You can bet this is really going to stir up some people who will just hate, Hate, HATE it. Let's go, Biden!

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
41. As we use to say down south....
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:57 PM
Oct 2022

That dog just won't hunt. Even most Republicans are pro marijuana liberalization.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
47. There are a heckuva lot of libertarian Republicans
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 05:39 PM
Oct 2022

Who would cheer on this news. So, this is a savvy political move, too!

mucifer

(23,547 posts)
59. My inherited billionaire Gov is better than yours
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:46 PM
Oct 2022

I got JB Pritzker

He worked to legalize recreational years ago.

We are lucky to have him in Illinois.

Response to gay texan (Reply #20)

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
40. Foolish. That won't play well, even with most Republicans.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

Marijuana liberalization is hugely popular across the political spectrum.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
53. LOL.. They're So GD STUPID it
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 06:17 PM
Oct 2022

BURNS!! They don't think maggats Smoke Weed!

I bet Independents Do Too! REEFER MADNESS!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
28. About damn time!
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:56 PM
Oct 2022

America’s patchwork quilt of pot laws is crazy - I hope federal action will lead to more rational thinking and the end to the stigma that surrounds marijuana.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
31. +1
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:13 PM
Oct 2022

I know a few conservatives I've met who could stand to smoke a doobie every once in awhile, since they always seem to be so uptight about everything under the sun.

James48

(4,436 posts)
35. Only a start!
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:38 PM
Oct 2022

The rescheduling MUST formally take place, and soon.

I really am not sure exactly where it belongs- as it is non-addictive and does have some medical benefit, so I’m thinking Schedule 4 might be appropriate. Definitely NOT Schedule 1. Year

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
37. This is a VERY smart move.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:42 PM
Oct 2022

If he is able to pull this off, and especially if he can get the schedule 1 designation dropped, it will be a real winner at the polls!

Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
42. I 💕 this 👇
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:58 PM
Oct 2022


Tweet text:

Sheryl Gay Stolberg
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At precisely 4:20 p.m., @SecBecerra replied to Biden's directive for him to look at how marijuana is "scheduled under federal law" -- meaning how it is classified under the Controlled Substances Act.

I am told the timing was no accident.

Secretary Xavier Becerra
@SecBecerra
Looking forward to working with Attorney General Garland to answer @POTUS’ call to action to review how marijuana is scheduled under federal law.
1:47 PM · Oct 6, 2022

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
38. Here's the scheduling problem
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:45 PM
Oct 2022

The federal drug schedules do not recognize how bad or good a drug may be. They look at two things: recognized medical use, and potential for abuse.

Unfortunately, weed doesn't do very well on either count.

Thanks to the 100-year-long federal prohibition on cannabis no legitimate studies have been made on weed in a medical setting. I think you can understand why: no one will invest in a study of a drug that is illegal to use. Hence, no "recognized medical use."

The government considers using a drug for its psychoactive effects to be abuse, and...well, that's why you smoke weed in the first place.

Unfortunately, because it falls into the description of a Schedule I drug - even though the only way the shit is going to kill you is if someone drops a 500-pound bale of it on your head - if it's going to be scheduled at all it's got to be in Schedule I.

Fentanyl, on the other hand, has recognized medical uses. Because it has them and also a high potential for abuse, it's in Schedule II. Cocaine and methamphetamine are also Schedule II drugs, and they're way worse than cannabis.

The obvious solution is to simply treat it as alcohol and deschedule it entirely. Alcohol has very few recognized medical uses, like analgesia if there aren't any other painkillers available (after the Israelis tried to sink the USS Liberty during the Six Days War the Liberty's sick bay ran out of painkillers so they resorted to passing out bottles of rum from the officers' mess) and treating antifreeze poisoning, and it has a high potential for abuse. No other recreational drug has the safety profile of cannabis. Alcohol is capable of killing you in one drinking session, and tobacco not only causes serious illness but it is so addictive you'll smoke yourself to death without even thinking about it. The mouse oral LD50 of cannabis is 481.9 milligrams per kilogram of body weight, which somewhat suggests the mice exploded after eating that many hash brownies. If the mouse LD50 holds true for humans, a 75-kilogram human would have to eat a full ounce of pure THC to risk death - and who the hell is going to do that?

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
39. To borrow a phrase from he who will not be named.....
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:53 PM
Oct 2022

This is Huuuuge!

Liberalization of marijuana laws is hugely popular nationwide, across the political spectrum.

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
57. A good step
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 08:30 PM
Oct 2022

But this sidesteps, ignores or accepts the much more numerous federal and state convictions for "providing" or sales.

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