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Nevilledog

(51,106 posts)
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:01 PM Oct 2022

Musk lawyers say Twitter won't accept renewed $44 billion bid for the company



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NEW YORK (AP) — Musk lawyers say Twitter won't accept renewed $44 billion bid for the company, ask Delaware court to halt upcoming trial.
12:49 PM · Oct 6, 2022



More accurately, Musk doesn't have financing.
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Musk lawyers say Twitter won't accept renewed $44 billion bid for the company (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2022 OP
Can he like go away ..... Lovie777 Oct 2022 #1
please nt prodigitalson Oct 2022 #23
I'll pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2022 #2
Not surprised Effete Snob Oct 2022 #3
One of the funders backed out yesterday. Nevilledog Oct 2022 #4
Actually that's NOT accurate. WarGamer Oct 2022 #5
Apollo Global backed out yesterday Nevilledog Oct 2022 #6
So? WarGamer Oct 2022 #7
So you're disputing that Musk says the deal is off or why it's off? Nevilledog Oct 2022 #8
You're moving the goal posts. WarGamer Oct 2022 #9
If it's a "fact" that he has financing without Apollo I'd love to see your sources from today. Nevilledog Oct 2022 #11
I follow this stuff... daily. WarGamer Oct 2022 #12
Apollo is irrelevant. WarGamer Oct 2022 #13
Missing the point. Musk is responsible for the deal, and could pay for all of it himself. unblock Oct 2022 #21
I 100% guarantee Musk will close the deal... WarGamer Oct 2022 #10
One of us will be right about whether the deal goes thru. Nevilledog Oct 2022 #15
I think people made too much of Apollo backing out. unblock Oct 2022 #14
Exactly... TSLA shareholdes would certainly appreciate it if Elon doesn't sell stock. WarGamer Oct 2022 #16
In practice he wouldn't actually sell, he'd just pledge shares for a loan. unblock Oct 2022 #19
exactly. WarGamer Oct 2022 #20
We'll see. Nevilledog Oct 2022 #17
Which is why Musk will close the deal sooner rather than later. WarGamer Oct 2022 #18
Every time Team Musk announces something, they want the trial to stop gratuitous Oct 2022 #22
Has he rescheduled his deposition? Tomconroy Oct 2022 #24
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
3. Not surprised
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:06 PM
Oct 2022

With all the hoopla yesterday about "How soon does Trump get back on?" I had not heard that Twitter accepted the offer.

If you make an offer, someone accepts, and then you revoke, then they don't have to go back and accept your renewed offer.

They can extract a buttload of cash from him in the trial without having to sell anything. Why not just do that?

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
5. Actually that's NOT accurate.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:08 PM
Oct 2022

Musk already has the financing lined up... a group of SEVEN banks have already signed contracts...

https://www.yahoo.com/now/musk-twitter-deal-said-stuck-180619464.html

Seven banks, led by Morgan Stanley, fully underwrote the debt portion of the financing, according to an April filing. As is usual in this type of contract, banks originally planned to sell most of that debt to institutional money managers before the Twitter deal closed, but they have always been on the hook for providing the funding if anything went wrong.

The Morgan Stanley-led group could struggle to find buyers for all the bonds and loans and would likely have to take losses on at least part of the financing package. But that is ultimately the banks’ problem, not Musk’s.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
7. So?
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:12 PM
Oct 2022

Don't follow Twitter for real news.

7 banks. Period. Already committed.

The Apollo thing is from April before Musk got the financing finalized.

Sometimes I wish Twitter had a software to hardware device that shocked people through their mouse for posting nonsense on Twitter,



They include Morgan Stanley, Bank of America and Barclays.

Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group, BNP Paribas, Mizuho Financial Group and Societe Generale are also part of the syndicate.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
9. You're moving the goal posts.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:21 PM
Oct 2022

Musk has financing lined up.

That was my claim and it's a fact.

Reason for a stall in the negotiations doesn't affect the fact that financing IS in place.

Nevilledog

(51,106 posts)
11. If it's a "fact" that he has financing without Apollo I'd love to see your sources from today.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:24 PM
Oct 2022

Sources about the available financing AFTER Apollo pulled out.

Honestly, I don't give a shit WHY it falls through as long as it falls through.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
12. I follow this stuff... daily.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:27 PM
Oct 2022

This is a negotiations ploy.

APOLLO PULLED OUT MONTHS AGO.

He's trying to insert into the contract an escape clause saying the deal is contingent on financing.

That puts pressure on TWTR to reduce the price which is what Elon has been attempting for months.

Read your own links, Apollo backed out months ago.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
13. Apollo is irrelevant.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:29 PM
Oct 2022
Apollo Global Management Inc. and Sixth Street Partners LLC are not moving ahead with talks to help finance Elon Musk's $44 billion acquisition of Twitter Inc. , Reuters reported. Musk replied, "correct" on Twitter when answering queries about whether the two lenders are absent from the $7.1 billion in third-party equity financing package for the deal, the report said. The two lenders stopped talking with Musk over the summer, after he asked Twitter to drop the deal as proposed in April, Reuters said in its report, which was published on Wednesday.

unblock

(52,240 posts)
21. Missing the point. Musk is responsible for the deal, and could pay for all of it himself.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:46 PM
Oct 2022

The bank syndicate is on the hook for $12.5 billion, and that hasn't changed.

Musk is on the hook for the rest (ultimately, all of it), but he's been trying to find others to share the load, such as Apollo. He wants to sell if pledge as little tsla as possible. But if he has to, he will.

Or he'll pay the breakup fee if that costs less.


But he's too wealthy to claim he can't do the deal because he can't come up with the money.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
10. I 100% guarantee Musk will close the deal...
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:23 PM
Oct 2022

This is all maneuvering to get the best out of the deal.

unblock

(52,240 posts)
14. I think people made too much of Apollo backing out.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:31 PM
Oct 2022

They were looking into financing only $1 billion out of a $44 billion deal, and the deal was never dependent on it.

The bank syndicate is still responsible for their portion, and musk can always sell tsla stock for his portion.

He'd rather not, but he still can. So he's still on the hook for closing the deal or paying the breakup fee.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
16. Exactly... TSLA shareholdes would certainly appreciate it if Elon doesn't sell stock.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:32 PM
Oct 2022

Every time he does, it drops A LOT.

unblock

(52,240 posts)
19. In practice he wouldn't actually sell, he'd just pledge shares for a loan.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:37 PM
Oct 2022

All he's doing is buying time. His bid for twitter remains overpriced, but the longer he drags it out, the more of a chance he has for it to become reasonable.

He's turned a bad bid into a call option with an indeterminate expiration date. If it ever looks like going through with the deal will cost him less than the breakup fee, suddenly the deal will get closed in a hurry.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Every time Team Musk announces something, they want the trial to stop
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:54 PM
Oct 2022

And the folks at Twitter seem perfectly happy to continue the trial. I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

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