"Social Murder" I had never heard the term before.

[raccoon]

Social murder

Social murder (German: sozialer Mord) is the unnatural death that occurs due to social, political, or economic oppression. The phrase was coined by Friedrich Engels in his 1845 work The Condition of the Working-Class in England whereby "the class which at present holds social and political control" (i.e. the bourgeoisie) "places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death". This was in a different category to murder and manslaughter committed by individuals against one another, as social murder explicitly was committed by the political and social elite against the poorest in society.

[sop]

1. In America we call it the "Republican party."

[efhmc]

12. And the oppressed, not only allow it but are a part of it.

They are called Maggots.

[AntivaxHunters]

2. Capitalism is hell

[Alexander Of Assyria]

3. No! We must worship capitalism like a holy cow, next only to the sacred military!

Give ur head a shake, capitalism rocks! The 840 billion a year military protects the precious child.

[IronLionZion]

7. Holy cows make delicious steaks

[betsuni]

4. LOL ask anyone in North Korea. That's hell.

[3Hotdogs]

5. Privatized health care. "Health" insurance which doesn't actually provide so much as a band-aid.

Anti-abortion laws --- that'll kill a few poor people. Hospitals run by Catholic Church (see last sentence).

Failure to enact legislation to prevent building in flood prone coastal areas.

Federal flood insurance.

[betsuni]

8. Democrats didn't have the votes for public option. But of course you know that.

[Hortensis]

20. Not sure he/she does. Social murder's a very interesting

summation of the totality of that list. We need people who see things different ways, of course.

[IronLionZion]

6. Sounds like the intentional famines to put people in their graves

like what the British did to Ireland and India, Stalin did to Ukraine, and many countries during wars


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

[Lonestarblue]

9. Trump and his incompetent administration committed social murder via Covid.

It was deliberate because so many of the earliest victims were brown and black.

[Farmer-Rick]

10. Yup, if ever there was an example of social murder

The US response to COVID was it. But I think the worse example of social murder was the Irish famine.

[Hortensis]

21. Surely it was deliberate because it was DELIBERATE?

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All the victims of course were people. Actually, in the beginning some thought black people, including many black people themselves, were significantly less vulnerable because the early pandemic death rate in Africa was believed to be significantly lower than among whites.

So far, blacks at 13% of the population have suffered @15% of Covid deaths.

Over 75% of deaths have been in the 65+ group, who are 16% of the population. (!!!)

Over 75% of the well over 1 million deaths are from a little 16% demographic, grandma's and grandpa's.

This overwhelming death toll of retired people of all races WAS expected from the very beginning. Notably, with death these people didn't just stop enjoying life with the leisure they'd earned,

* virtually all stopped drawing entitlement payments from the government funds they'd paid into for decades. And younger generations inherited their wealth.

* Chronically ill people, most of whom required government subsidizing, died as expected at high rates.

* Using pandemic disease is SOP for creating conditions amenable to government takeovers.

* The pandemic has enabled an enormous shift of national wealth to the ultrawealthy.

We've had all four.

Deliberate?

Btw, if the Republicans who turned an epidemic into a holocaust thought "the people" would blow off over a million dead because most were "old" people, weren't they right?

[BComplex]

24. And elderly.

Something about which this nation looks the other way.

[samnsara]

11. this is what happens to small towns when Walmart moves in

....i traveled a lot in small towns in middle America and wherever there was a Walmart the nearest small town was decimated.



But hey!! I could buy a new camcorder and batteries at midnight!

[efhmc]

13. Thank you for this. I had a vague recollection of this "theory" but had forgotten it.

Sometimes I think my brain is getting rusty from too much pettiness and plain old trash.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Don't listen to that Engels. Marty was the only good one. /nt

[niyad]

15. Thank you for the reminder.

[Ponietz]

16. National gun policy is social murder

[raccoon]

19. Good point. Nt

[hay rick]

17. Maldistribution of wealth is a form of violence.

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In most societies, the lives of the poor are "nasty, brutish, and short." Our society is historically productive and may be historically culpable in enforcing avoidable poverty and misery.

[Jenny von Westphalen]

18. The Condition of the Working Class in England is a good read

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/condition-working-class/index.htm HTML
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/17306.epub.noimages EPUB
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/17306.kindle.noimages MOBI (Kindle)
https://archive.org/details/conditionoftheworkingclassinengland_1301_librivox Audiobook
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/condition-working-class-england.pdf PDF
https://www.abebooks.com/products/isbn/9780199555888 Paperback

[gulliver]

22. Marx and Engels are of no relevance today

Communism has been so thoroughly discredited that no one who gives it one minute of serious thought is inclined to give it a second minute. It has nothing to do with the Democratic Party.

Communism was data-less gaslighting even in its time. It's essentially QAnon for the 19th century.

[Jenny von Westphalen]

23. "essentially QAnon for the 19th century" are you trying to make me laugh

[gulliver]

25. Republicans are Capitalism's worst enemy

They "spoil it" by worshiping it. That leads to rampant monopolies (higher prices), low product quality, and pervasive poor customer service.

Democrats have the right balance. We're pro-Capitalist, but we see it as an engine, not a booga-booga volcano god like the Republicans.

Communists are actually a friend to Capitalism. Communism is so obviously, banally and evilly stupid that its opposition to Capitalism honors Capitalism. Communism is very, very much like QAnon. That's why the Democratic Party has nothing to do with it and opposes it.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

26. I feel like I have been murdered

Socially by the lack of reliable public transportation out of this suburban hellscape. That there are few walking friendly spaces one can get to without a car.That medicaid wont pay for a therapist that can handle trauma. Isolation is killing me.

[Faux pas]

27. I

call it soft kill.