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irisblue

(33,035 posts)
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 11:40 AM Oct 2022

Stop Dragging Maggie Haberman by Eric Wemple, WaPo, 7Oct 2022

Free article here
https://wapo.st/3SMMXRR

seems that Wemple is unhappy that Haberman is getting called out for her mendacity in covering Trump, the apricothellbeast.

snip-"In an interview with the Erik Wemple Blog, Haberman said she worked with the Times and her publisher to get the news out when it was most relevant. In the case of the Trump quote about hunkering down at the White House, for example, the author said that if she’d nailed it down around the time it was uttered, she would have published it. As it turned out, she got it during her reporting for the book — “well after” the conclusion of Trump’s second impeachment trial, in which it would have been a relevant item."

snip-"New York Times spokeswoman Danielle Rhoades Ha issued this statement on the criticism: “Maggie Haberman took leave from The Times to write her book. In the course of reporting the book, she shared considerable newsworthy information with The Times. Editors decided what news was best suited for our news report.”


Haberman was an unreliable reporter during those years.
She herself ruined her name, honor and reputation chasing access and expecting a big payout from her book. Given that the Haberman family did PR in NYC, & for Trump business' the anger and criticism she is getting must be a surprise.

It should not be.



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Ocelot II

(115,877 posts)
10. Eric Wemple is a liberal journalist who writes for Haberman's competitor, WaPo.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:00 PM
Oct 2022

Just something to keep in mind. I'm reading Haberman's book and it's really interesting.

Ocelot II

(115,877 posts)
3. I'm reading the book now. It's fascinating, in the same way
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 11:50 AM
Oct 2022

looking at a terrible road accident is fascinating - it's awful but you can't look away. Irrespective of Haberman's methods or intentions, there's a lot of material (some of which, to be fair, she didn't learn until after TFG was gone from the WH) that's making me go, OMG, he's even worse than I thought! I doubt that any new reporting of TFG's malfeasance will affect his MAGAt cult members, but there's plenty of scary shit here. Let's not shoot the messenger.

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
4. Haberman needs a show on CNN
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 11:50 AM
Oct 2022

She towers over her detractors. Incredible gravitas, incredible intellect.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Is CNN the right platform for Haberman, though?
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 11:54 AM
Oct 2022

It seems that NewsMax would be a better fit. Or the corner of 42nd Street and Seventh Avenue as long as the Shoutycrackers Messiah isn't holding forth.

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
9. Newsmax is actually the opposite of gravitas and intellect
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:00 PM
Oct 2022

CNN would do well to pick up Haberman. I watch CNN and MSNBC primarily, but CNN is the better fit by far. I doubt she'd take the gig though.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Not even close to realistic. Haberman's a Pulitzer prize-winning
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:11 PM
Oct 2022

investigate journalist who's worked for world-class investigative journals. She's accused of not reporting factual information when it might have made a difference.

She's NOT accused of reporting contemptible and absurd far-right deceits on a slimy RW extremist tabloid to an idiot far-right extremist audience --

who have no respect for truth and demonize everything they don't like but are far too dishonest and ignorant to know why.

Ocelot II

(115,877 posts)
8. I agree. It's interesting and well-written.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 11:58 AM
Oct 2022

Maybe paying attention to the message is more useful than shooting the messenger. We can argue all day about the timing of this and other books about TFG, but we shouldn't be distracted from what's in them.

irisblue

(33,035 posts)
13. Earlier today, the BBC program Hard Talk did an interview with Haberman
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:25 PM
Oct 2022

It is 24 minutes & is currently the first choice on this list.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001czm7

Paladin

(28,276 posts)
16. Might as well cut Haberman some slack and read her book.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 01:30 PM
Oct 2022

What evidence do we have that the DOJ would have done anything different, with an earlier notification of the information Haberman had collected?

LymphocyteLover

(5,657 posts)
18. The pod save America guys interviewed her yezsterday and it's worth a listen
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:07 PM
Oct 2022

She sounded very reasonable (more than when I've seen her on TV) and they did point out that a lot of criticisms of her were unfairly based.

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