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Raphael should bring ALL Herschel Walkers's baby mommas to the debate. (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2022 OP
I would JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #1
IKR sheshe2 Oct 2022 #3
He's a Minister too isn't he?? a kennedy Oct 2022 #21
LOL secondwind Oct 2022 #2
Right????? lisa58 Oct 2022 #4
Perhaps ask them if they want to be used as props first? Effete Snob Oct 2022 #5
Oh, please. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #6
Hard to tell sometimes Effete Snob Oct 2022 #8
Raphael would never do that. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #15
I Got It...THe JOke Me. Oct 2022 #28
;) sheshe2 Oct 2022 #29
New series, 'Sidechicks of Atlanta' coming to FX JCMach1 Oct 2022 #7
dead JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #9
I dunno . . . that's so . . . . Trump. no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #10
That is not Senator's Warnok's style or personality. Also, he doesn't have. It is clear what JohnSJ Oct 2022 #11
That term is used as a racist dogwhistle. Do better NT. Ex Lurker Oct 2022 #12
You are calling me a racist? sheshe2 Oct 2022 #16
The term "baby mammas" was used by Bakari Sellers, a black man, not sheshe. panader0 Oct 2022 #20
+100 Rhiannon12866 Oct 2022 #22
Hi. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #25
Hi Rhiannon12866 Oct 2022 #26
I know. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #27
Thank you, panaderO. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #24
erm.... Celerity Oct 2022 #37
Thank you, Celerity. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #41
YW sheshe Celerity Oct 2022 #47
You're trying too hard. BannonsLiver Oct 2022 #38
You're saying Bakari Sellers is using a racist "dogwhistle"? TheBeam19 Oct 2022 #39
She didn't use the term mcar Oct 2022 #40
Nah Deep State Witch Oct 2022 #13
We don't use people as political props - I hope. Ocelot II Oct 2022 #14
Warnock doesn't campaign that way thus far and I hope he doesn't. davsand Oct 2022 #17
Didn't Walker fumble the debate away? GreenWave Oct 2022 #18
The way Trump brought someone from Bill Clinton's past Raine Oct 2022 #19
Naw... he needn't stoop to that level MissMillie Oct 2022 #23
Cheap trick Retrograde Oct 2022 #30
Why is anyone taking this seriously. It's a joke. betsuni Oct 2022 #31
Dunno sheshe2 Oct 2022 #32
Really annoying when people think things are right-wing just because right-wingers have betsuni Oct 2022 #44
The world is a fugged up mess. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #45
I'm nervous. betsuni Oct 2022 #46
I am nervous too. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #48
My problem is does anyone really thing that Herschel Walker will show up for a debate? LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #33
I doubt he will show. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #34
I doubt that you will find anyone to take the other side of that bet LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #35
If it is collapsing, we are blessed. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #36
Republican voters don't care that he has the morals of a psychopathic pirate Poiuyt Oct 2022 #42
Yes. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #43

JustAnotherGen

(31,917 posts)
1. I would
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:15 PM
Oct 2022

But Senator Warnock is a good person . . . he wouldn't do that to those women. Like - who wants to admit they had sex with that dumb dumb!

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
8. Hard to tell sometimes
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:28 PM
Oct 2022

Echoes of Trump paying the likes of Juanita Broaddrick to show up at the debate with Hillary Clinton.

IMHO, having Herschel Walker show up at the debate will be the most devastating attendee for to Herschel Walker.

no_hypocrisy

(46,210 posts)
10. I dunno . . . that's so . . . . Trump.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:29 PM
Oct 2022

(Remembering how he had the women who accused Bill Clinton of sexually assaulting them to his and Hillary's debate . . . left me feeling queasy.)

JohnSJ

(92,427 posts)
11. That is not Senator's Warnok's style or personality. Also, he doesn't have. It is clear what
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:32 PM
Oct 2022

Walker is


Celerity

(43,554 posts)
37. erm....
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 02:11 AM
Oct 2022




That term is used as a racist dogwhistle.


no




https://slate.com/human-interest/2006/05/a-brief-history-of-baby-daddies.html

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The Oxford English Dictionary defines baby-daddy as “the father of a woman’s child, who is not her husband or (in most cases) her current or exclusive partner.” The baby-mama entry follows the same template with the genders reversed. But some gossip writers have been adopting the first part of the definition and ignoring the second. Salon recently called Tom Cruise “Katie Holmes’ baby-daddy,” even though the couple is engaged. And Gawker refers to Keven Federline as “Britney Spears’ baby-daddy,” even though the couple has been married for more than a year. Such usages would be unlikely in Jamaica, where baby-daddy has its roots. The OED lists baby-daddy and baby-mama as “colloquial, chiefly African-American” variants of the Jamaican terms baby-father and baby-mother; its first citation for baby-mother hails from the Kingston Daily Gleaner in 1966. The terms probably arose in Jamaican Creole—where they would have been pronounced “biebifaada” and “biebimada”—before taking hold in standard Jamaican English.

On the island, your baby-mother or baby-father is typically someone with whom you are no longer romantically involved. If you called your husband your “baby-father,” he might be insulted—the term suggests biological fatherhood in the absence of any real parenting. The linguistics professor Peter L. Patrick, who studies Jamaican Creole, said the terms “definitely imply there is not a marriage—not even a common-law marriage—but rather that the child is an ‘outside’ child.” The terms soon landed in the lyrics of reggae and dancehall songs, which may be how they made their way to the United States. In 1981, a Jamaican musician named Linval Thompson wrote and recorded a song called “Baby Mother” that entreats men not to be rough with pregnant women—“Mind how you’re pushing/ when you push on your baby mother”—because an unborn child might be a “king or queen … maybe a movie star.” Thompson followed up with “Baby Father,” a major hit that advised men to take responsibility for their kids. The opening line: “Baby father, don’t run. Don’t hide.”





By the mid to late ‘90s, the terms baby-daddy and baby-mama were appearing regularly in American hip-hop and R&B songs, and the words were consistently used to refer to an ex. In a 1997 song by B-Rock & the Bizz *, a girl placates her jealous boyfriend: “That ain’t nobody/ that’s just my baby-daddy.” In a song by Bass Patrol, a beleaguered boyfriend chants, “I don’t know/ and I can’t see/ why your baby daddy got beef with me.” But it was the rapper Queen Pen who most succinctly captured the difficulties inherent in the relationship, in a song called “Baby Daddy“: “I shouldn’t a f-cked him.”

Baby-mama hit the big time in 2000, in the OutKast chart-topper “Ms. Jackson.” The song—which, as Andre 3000 put it, went out to all the “baby mamas’ mamas”—details the singer’s efforts to convince his ex-girlfriend’s mom that he’s serious about being a good dad, and it soon had Americans black and white singing along with the catchy chorus: “I’m sorry Ms. Jackson/ but I am for real!” OutKast even secured the term’s place in the New York Times: It appeared outside of quotation marks for the first time in a 2003 profile of the band that calls “Ms. Jackson” a “conflicted ode to baby-mamas.” (The line is cited in the current edition of the OED.)

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Ocelot II

(115,870 posts)
14. We don't use people as political props - I hope.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:43 PM
Oct 2022

I can't imagine that Warnock, a clergyman, would agree to such a cruel stunt. The woman who got the abortion has specifically asked not to be identified for the protection of her child.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
17. Warnock doesn't campaign that way thus far and I hope he doesn't.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 05:57 PM
Oct 2022

Warnock has steered clear of any discussion of Walker's issues. I have to respect that. There is very much a stereotype of the black absentee father, promiscuity, anger, drug use or any negative personal behavior you want attributed to black men--especially in the south. What a lot of people don't realize about this in the context of Walker and this Senate race, is that the Georgia GOP really doesn't CARE that Walker has the issues he does because that's how they see ALL black men. This current set of issues with Walker will not change too many minds there because it just affirms what they believe already. Warnock is absolutely a threat because he represents an alternative to the stereotypical black male image. Warnock empowers black voters to think their vote might matter. That feeling of futility is deeply rooted and the GOP depends on it.

Anybody that sees Walker's campaign as much more than a racist play to take out that scary smart black minister probably hasn't thought it through. Warnock is trying to elevate things, and offering commentary on Walker's issues only undermines things.



Laura

Raine

(30,541 posts)
19. The way Trump brought someone from Bill Clinton's past
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:59 PM
Oct 2022

to humiliate Hillary in such a low sleazy way, classy NOT! Let Walker expose himself, the women and abortions aren't the problem IMO. The biggest problem with Walker is he's just plain STUPID. Walker outs himself every time he opens his mouth and shows his lack of intelligence and good sense.

MissMillie

(38,583 posts)
23. Naw... he needn't stoop to that level
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 08:09 PM
Oct 2022

He's a minister. He needs to behave himself and not gloat on Walker's past mistakes and present misfortunes.

He could, however, invite Walker to come to church for real redemption, most notably for his lies about the whole thing.

Retrograde

(10,162 posts)
30. Cheap trick
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 10:54 PM
Oct 2022

I think Warnock is above stunts like this. Now, if Walker brings up the subject Warnock has every right to bring up his hypocrisy. But this is the kind of tasteless thing Trump and his ilk would pull.

betsuni

(25,660 posts)
31. Why is anyone taking this seriously. It's a joke.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 12:48 AM
Oct 2022

"The crowd has started to fill the room." LOL.

Sigh.

betsuni

(25,660 posts)
44. Really annoying when people think things are right-wing just because right-wingers have
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 07:37 PM
Oct 2022

appropriated them.

Woke is the new politically correct, social justice warrior and so on. You'll see someone accused of being right-wing because they've discussed Democrats being too woke -- yeah, sure, James Carville and Al Franken are notorious wing nuts. Using a word right-wingers have changed the meaning of doesn't automatically turn you into them. Amazing to see anyone accused of racism for posting a tweet by a black person using the words baby mamma. Like the time Shontel Brown supporters were called racists for hating strong women of color because they didn't support Nina Turner. That was a good one, very stupid.

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
45. The world is a fugged up mess.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:27 PM
Oct 2022

If we don't come together soon we will have lost everything. Clock is ticking and we need to vote. our lives depend on it.

betsuni

(25,660 posts)
46. I'm nervous.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:22 PM
Oct 2022

Things are surreal and nutty. If not enough people vote for Democrats the U.S. will become a B-list has-been supporting actor on the world stage. And everyone will still blame Democrats.

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
48. I am nervous too.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 11:29 PM
Oct 2022

However we do have the blue wave. We have some very pissed off women and awesome men that support us. We need to do this.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,627 posts)
33. My problem is does anyone really thing that Herschel Walker will show up for a debate?
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 01:24 AM
Oct 2022

the way that his campaign is going, I will be surprised to see Walker attend a debate

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,627 posts)
35. I doubt that you will find anyone to take the other side of that bet
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 01:39 AM
Oct 2022

Walker's campaign is falling apart and a debate can only accelerate this collapse

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
36. If it is collapsing, we are blessed.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 01:52 AM
Oct 2022

GOP knew his issues were going on. They knew and DT and clan pushed forward. All they wanted was a black face in a white party.

Poiuyt

(18,130 posts)
42. Republican voters don't care that he has the morals of a psychopathic pirate
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:42 PM
Oct 2022

They don't care that he's dumber than a fence post. They just want control of the Senate.

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