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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 02:39 PM Oct 2022

Proud Boys founder scrambling to salvage 'bitterly divided' group after new revelation

According to a report from the Daily Beast, the founder of the Proud Boys, who has been keeping his distance from the right-wing group, headed to Las Vegas weeks ago for a meet-up of members and attempted to put down a civil war in the organization that is reportedly coming apart at the seams after revelations that one key leader was an FBI informant.

With Gavin McInnes later describing it as the "weirdest experience of my life," the report by Will Sommer states the group is still "bitterly divided" into two camps (the "Nationals" and "Standard&quot with McInnes himself noting on his radio show: "Both sides say that the other side is racist and tolerates pedophiles.”

According to the report, the Proud Boys are reeling after criminal indictments and finger-pointing in what McInnes labeled a “massive civil war” between members.

Sommer wrote, "The split between the Proud Boys factions dates back to the post-Jan. 6 revelations that Enrique Tarrio, the group’s 'chairman,' worked as a federal informant on cases that predated the Proud Boys’ existence. Tarrio’s home chapter in south Florida split into two rival chapters, dubbed 'Villain City' and 'Vice City,' and clashed online over Tarrio’s reputation. Elsewhere in the country, furious members who felt Tarrio had betrayed the club or led them into disaster at the Capitol dubbed him 'Fedrique,' and several chapters announced that they would no longer recognize the authority of national-level leaders like Tarrio."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/proud-boys-founder-scrambling-to-salvage-bitterly-divided-group-after-new-revelations-report/ar-AA12LtDA

Hope they all kill each other.

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Proud Boys founder scrambling to salvage 'bitterly divided' group after new revelation (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 OP
"The other side is racist and tolerates pedophiles." dchill Oct 2022 #1
One of those very rare moments when Grokenstein Oct 2022 #6
When each side accuses the other and both are correct... dchill Oct 2022 #7
Generally the "both sides do it" rhetoric is just grating.. ToxMarz Oct 2022 #14
Whoops! I need to go for popcorn! dchill Oct 2022 #16
I've been kicking myself over this. WinstonSmith4740 Oct 2022 #26
I know, right? 👍 dchill Oct 2022 #28
Both are only partially right ThoughtCriminal Oct 2022 #24
Lol "Fedrique" that's funny. David__77 Oct 2022 #2
Grown boys playing revolution. No clue why, or what, beyond lindysalsagal Oct 2022 #3
And here pedophilia comes crossing their doorway..... jaxexpat Oct 2022 #13
Misogyny, and apparently pedophilia IronLionZion Oct 2022 #18
Aren't proud boys some type of castrated animal? GreenWave Oct 2022 #4
No - but many do have a hard time finding the wee thing peppertree Oct 2022 #12
A Proud Boy is a castrated horse that thinks it's a stallion IronLionZion Oct 2022 #17
Thanks! Now I have the ammo I need. GreenWave Oct 2022 #22
Gosh, what a shame. Couldn't happen to more deserving people. Biophilic Oct 2022 #5
I thought Gavin was out of the picture. I knew outing Tarrio was for a reason. underpants Oct 2022 #8
I think that's the point with McInnes. He's as much involved as he ever was. blogslug Oct 2022 #9
Proud Boys always seemed like a ruse to me underpants Oct 2022 #10
He's basically the Osama Bin-Laden of the proud boys. Crowman2009 Oct 2022 #29
Next thing you know, they'll Tarrio and feather him peppertree Oct 2022 #11
Conservatives in disarray IronLionZion Oct 2022 #15
I just posted on my question on the name below.. msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #20
They are compensating for deep insecurities and feelings of inadequacy IronLionZion Oct 2022 #23
I wasn't aware of Proud Girls. omg so sad. msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #30
Would it be somewhat accurate to say: All ProudBoys are Incels, but not All Incels are Proud Boys? msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #19
Last sentence Rebl2 Oct 2022 #21
Pedophiles? Well, they would know their own kind. keithbvadu2 Oct 2022 #25
Surprised they didn't mention the other controversy grantcart Oct 2022 #27

ToxMarz

(2,167 posts)
14. Generally the "both sides do it" rhetoric is just grating..
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 04:05 PM
Oct 2022

but I guess this is a delightful exception.

When do the Nazi accusations start.

David__77

(23,402 posts)
2. Lol "Fedrique" that's funny.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 02:49 PM
Oct 2022

That’s the thing about certain social elements- not trustworthy. They can readily be turned traitor.

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
13. And here pedophilia comes crossing their doorway.....
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 04:05 PM
Oct 2022

Rending them asunder. They should draw straws, long straw get to hate pedophiles more. They could share the racism. Hell, there's plenty for everyone.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
18. Misogyny, and apparently pedophilia
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 04:19 PM
Oct 2022

Some losers and failures want to be a part of something that makes them feel important by stepping on someone else

underpants

(182,803 posts)
8. I thought Gavin was out of the picture. I knew outing Tarrio was for a reason.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 03:22 PM
Oct 2022

Arresting him (the clearly knew where he was) seemed to give him cover from being present for Jan. 6th. It also had to blow up the operation as the head of a wannabe criminal operation finds out a snitch is at the top. Frankly, the first time I saw Tarrio I thought - that’s odd in terms of him just not fitting. Maybe he was a plant from the getgo.

blogslug

(38,000 posts)
9. I think that's the point with McInnes. He's as much involved as he ever was.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 03:43 PM
Oct 2022

Not unlike when TFG claimed he was relinquishing control of his businesses for the duration of his elected term.

McInnes gets to keep spewing bullshit on media platforms because he's no longer "officially" head of the PB.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
10. Proud Boys always seemed like a ruse to me
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 03:50 PM
Oct 2022

From the name to Gavin’s asinine antics to the really stupid initiation thing. The more I learned about it, it seemed like someone was playing a little game to them amongst themselves. “Hey let’s do this and see if they dance for us”.

The Oathkeepers I kind of get. I mean the people, I know ex-military still clinging to their service. Cops are cops for a reason.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
15. Conservatives in disarray
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 04:09 PM
Oct 2022

RWers should all fight among themselves. Give it all they've got. To the death!



In case anyone didn't know where they got their Proud Boys name, it's from Aladdin the musical. Not a joke

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
23. They are compensating for deep insecurities and feelings of inadequacy
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 05:18 PM
Oct 2022

These boys tend to be failures at life. There are misogynistic reasons why their allied "Proud Girls" group never got much traction.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
19. Would it be somewhat accurate to say: All ProudBoys are Incels, but not All Incels are Proud Boys?
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 04:34 PM
Oct 2022

I just feel like the name Proud Boy to describe austensibly "grown men" has to be Incel first and foremost.

How on earth does a grown man, an adult male, identify with that title of an organization they'd volunteer to be openly associated with.

Just the name itself is a give away of the severe mental health issues underlying all of it.

something in their water.. must be all that fluoride!



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