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The Wizard of Oz is trending on Twitter. Why? Because the book has been banned. (Original Post) CatWoman Oct 2022 OP
I think Dr. Oz is the one that needs to be banned Blue Owl Oct 2022 #1
My thought as well......BAN HIM. a kennedy Oct 2022 #24
Wtaf??? SheltieLover Oct 2022 #2
Too blurry I can't make it out Fullduplexxx Oct 2022 #3
.... CatWoman Oct 2022 #7
Good grief maybe worse than banning the girls coding club I saw on Velshi yesterday. gordianot Oct 2022 #4
Who did Rebl2 Oct 2022 #11
Velshi tracks banned books you might check his website for details. gordianot Oct 2022 #39
Why would they display it if they banned it? egduj Oct 2022 #5
They are displaying books that have been banned at one time or another often regionally. Quixote1818 Oct 2022 #17
So some jackass in Podunk Montana banned it and Barnes is using it as an advertising stunt. egduj Oct 2022 #20
C'mon. They are booksellers. The good guys in this debate. I'd give them a little..... RussellCattle Oct 2022 #26
Disagree 10000% Tommymac Oct 2022 #28
Getting kids to read banned books is a great idea no matter what the business reasons paleotn Oct 2022 #29
But why not use it to their advantage ? JI7 Oct 2022 #33
Bookstore- not school or whatever banned it. we can do it Oct 2022 #18
The characterization on the placard is from a 1928 ban TheProle Oct 2022 #6
Banned where? iemanja Oct 2022 #8
Here you go Quixote1818 Oct 2022 #16
Your link doesn't work iemanja Oct 2022 #35
Strange. It works every time I click on it. nt Quixote1818 Oct 2022 #41
Not for me iemanja Oct 2022 #44
Here is what is says Quixote1818 Oct 2022 #49
How ridiculous iemanja Oct 2022 #50
Chittenango NY of course whistler162 Oct 2022 #21
The book isn't exactly like the movie. twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #9
Most aren't but is this more so than others ? JI7 Oct 2022 #34
Hey, banning a book can be a great selling point PatSeg Oct 2022 #10
Likely Rebl2 Oct 2022 #12
Lion, witch, and the wardrobe is a Christian allegory JT45242 Oct 2022 #13
That was my thought too. They ought to read the Bible. nolabear Oct 2022 #54
"banned"??? 😲 nt Raine Oct 2022 #14
Highly misleading title Polybius Oct 2022 #15
Barnes & Noble is not banning ANY books. Please clarify your post. hlthe2b Oct 2022 #22
It is not a misleading title. I have seen Barnes and Noble do these displays before PA_jen Oct 2022 #32
Honestly, most who have any acquaintance with bookstores, and some niyad Oct 2022 #37
You seem to be the only one around here with a problem understanding n/t kcr Oct 2022 #38
Read the replies before mine Polybius Oct 2022 #40
someone once said tht " every banned book is a light unto the world" . AllaN01Bear Oct 2022 #19
I applaud the fact the B&N is encouraging kids to read and to think for themselves 70sEraVet Oct 2022 #23
My wife and I ONLY put banned books in our little library, and our Halfpriced Books has a section CCExile Oct 2022 #25
Because Dorothy revealed that The Wizard was a fraud? no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #27
L. Frank Baum's mother in law was a famous suffragette. LisaM Oct 2022 #30
Still an active sentiment in republican circles... 'Women should not hold leadership roles.' keithbvadu2 Oct 2022 #31
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Oct 2022 #36
Are they referring to Dorothy, the Good Witch Glenda, or the Wicked Witch of the West? milestogo Oct 2022 #42
The Fundamentalist Christians have a valid point about good witches. Towlie Oct 2022 #43
Danged monks -- bad translation of "poisoner" to "witch". Thousands of women murdered. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #46
Too bad God is so impotent that he couldn't correct that mistranslation of his word. Towlie Oct 2022 #47
"God works in misogynistic ways" -- Can we ban that 'women-are-property' book? Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #48
Thank you. I made it up on the spot and Google says it's original! Towlie Oct 2022 #51
It wonderfuly encapsulates what has been taught for centuries. I hope it goes viral! Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #52
Dr. Oz- Wizard of Lies LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #45
Can y'all read those reasons? 😳 nolabear Oct 2022 #53

Blue Owl

(50,374 posts)
1. I think Dr. Oz is the one that needs to be banned
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 04:57 PM
Oct 2022

Because because because because because,
Because of the horrible things he does....

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
39. Velshi tracks banned books you might check his website for details.
Mon Oct 10, 2022, 08:44 AM
Oct 2022

Why? that is a good question . The series was written to encourage a STEM activity for adolescent girls. Right up there with the old Baby Sitters Club which I guess is OK. It must be young females who want to code is intimidating. This makes as much sense as the group that wanted to ban Huck Finn at Hannibal MO School Board meeting. Apparently Girls coding is being banned.

egduj

(805 posts)
20. So some jackass in Podunk Montana banned it and Barnes is using it as an advertising stunt.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 06:49 PM
Oct 2022

Big business at its best

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
26. C'mon. They are booksellers. The good guys in this debate. I'd give them a little.....
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 07:17 PM
Oct 2022

......credit for showing people what the nutjobs are trying to do and for acting in a manner that seeks to counteract the effects that said nutjobs may have on our culture.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
29. Getting kids to read banned books is a great idea no matter what the business reasons
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 07:39 PM
Oct 2022

Free flow of information and ideas, good and bad. It's an American thing or so I've heard.

Plus, making a buck in a legal manner is also an American thing. No worries on that from me.

TheProle

(2,177 posts)
6. The characterization on the placard is from a 1928 ban
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 05:09 PM
Oct 2022

Wrong then, wrong now. But most of that gibberish was from the first half of the 20th century.

More recently, the challenge in 86 was more of the fundamentalist/ anti-witchcraft take. They lost and SCOTUS refused to hear the case.

The book is not currently banned.

Quixote1818

(28,936 posts)
49. Here is what is says
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:19 PM
Oct 2022

Was The Wizard Of Oz Banned Because It Promoted ‘Girl Power’?
BY
SA'IYDA SHABAZZ
PUBLISHED JAN 16, 2020
L. Frank Baum's book 'The Wonderful Wizard of Oz' has been banned in certain places because people didn't like the main character Dorothy being a hero

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz book cover
It's hard to believe that there are people out there who ban books. Books are made to inspire and encourage readers to think of worlds outside of their own. Whether those worlds are real or made up, books are meant to unite people. But there are some stories that really get under people's skin for various reasons. Sometimes it's hard to believe certain books have been banned, especially when you find out why. Can you believe The Wizard of Oz was banned in places?

Even if you've never read the book, which is actually called The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum, you've certainly heard of it. Most people know it because of the 1939 movie starring Judy Garland as Dorthy Gale. Dorothy is actually one of the reasons the book has been banned since its release in 1900. People were actually mad that Dorothy was the hero in her own story and banned the book as a result.

Way back in 1928, which is 28 years after the book's release, all public libraries banned the book because they felt it was "ungodly." And what exactly was ungodly you ask? They didn't like it “depicting women in strong leadership roles." Seems ridiculous when you think about it, but back then that was a totally valid reason. The fact that a teenage girl was the hero in her own story bothered ministers and educators throughout the 1950s and 1960s too. Apparently only men can save the day.

Dorothy Dodd, a Florida librarian, publicly denounced the book series in 1952. She called the books "unwholesome for young readers." Something similar happened in 1957 when the Detroit Public Library banned the books. The people in charged claimed that the books had “no value for children of today," saying the characters and storylines displayed “negativism and brought children’s minds to a cowardly level."

Thankfully Dr. Russell B. Nye from Michigan State University responded to the Detroit Public Library's accusations. Nye said “if the message of the Oz books- that love, kindness, and unselfishness make the world a better place- has no value today, then maybe the time is ripe to reassess a good many of other things beside the Detroit Library’s approval list of children’s books."

But the most publicized banning of The Wizard of Oz was in 1986. Seven Fundamentalist Christian families in Tennessee wanted the book banned in public schools. They filed a lawsuit against the schools because they didn't like the novel's depiction of nice witches. Their argument was “the novel’s depiction of benevolent witches and promoting the belief that essential human attributes were ‘individually developed rather than God given’." Who knew that nice witches were such a problem? Certainly not us.

In spite of people trying so hard to get rid of the books, there's a reason The Wonderful Wizard of Oz is still a favorite among kids over 100 years later.

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
50. How ridiculous
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:58 PM
Oct 2022

It's sometimes used in history classes to teach about the Populist Movement.

Thanks for sharing the content of the link.

JT45242

(2,273 posts)
13. Lion, witch, and the wardrobe is a Christian allegory
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 05:49 PM
Oct 2022

These morons don't even know what is supposed to be their stories.

CS Lewis, theologian and author, a lion (like the lion of Judah) is killed as an innocent for the sins of others and comes back to life.

Book banners are so stupid it's pathetic.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
54. That was my thought too. They ought to read the Bible.
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 01:31 PM
Oct 2022

Talk about violence and disrespect and sex…

Polybius

(15,417 posts)
15. Highly misleading title
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 06:11 PM
Oct 2022

The book "has been banned" sounds like it was just banned. It was banned in 1928. Please change to "was." Posters here are thinking that Barnes & Noble just banned the book because it depicts "women in strong leadership positions."

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
22. Barnes & Noble is not banning ANY books. Please clarify your post.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 06:57 PM
Oct 2022

This is a display they do at least annually to show the absolutely ridiculous nature of book bans. And yes, it isn't always banned from recent actions, but also from the past. I provided my medical expertise several years ago to help them (my own local B&N) explore some actual MEDICAL texts that groups had tried to get pulled from library shelves (or resale) because of the supposed "salacious" nature of medical and technical drawings!

Seriously. To suggest the B&N is banning books is highly inflammatory and WRONG.

PA_jen

(1,114 posts)
32. It is not a misleading title. I have seen Barnes and Noble do these displays before
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 07:51 PM
Oct 2022

These are books that have for one reason or another throughout history have been band.

Wizard of Oz have been banned twice. As you mention 1928 for strong women in leadership and in Detroit it was banned for have "No Value" for children. Once a book has been banned it carries that stigma and is often banned repeatedly.

And considering how Roe was recently overturned...How many men old the viewpoint now at days that women shouldn't hold a strong leadership role?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_commonly_challenged_books_in_the_United_States

niyad

(113,306 posts)
37. Honestly, most who have any acquaintance with bookstores, and some
Mon Oct 10, 2022, 12:06 AM
Oct 2022

Last edited Mon Oct 10, 2022, 12:52 AM - Edit history (1)

libraries, know that they do these displays, especially in September, which is "Banned Books Month".

CCExile

(468 posts)
25. My wife and I ONLY put banned books in our little library, and our Halfpriced Books has a section
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 07:17 PM
Oct 2022

devoted to banned books at the front of the store!

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
30. L. Frank Baum's mother in law was a famous suffragette.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 07:39 PM
Oct 2022

(I know some people say 'suffragist'; I choose to use 'suffragette' because they claimed that name for themselves after it was intended to be derogatory).

Anyway, this is fascinating stuff and it just goes to show that history is often told, just not in plain sight.

https://msmagazine.com/2021/03/29/wizard-of-oz-matilda-joslyn-gage-suffrage-feminist/#:~:text=behind%20the%20curtain.-,The%20Wizard%20of%20Oz%20film%2C%20and%20the%20novels%20that%20inspired,as%20she%20was%20in%20hers.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
31. Still an active sentiment in republican circles... 'Women should not hold leadership roles.'
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 07:47 PM
Oct 2022
https://democraticunderground.com/100217236809

GOP NH Senate candidate Don Bolduc: "women get the best voice when men regulate their rights"

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
42. Are they referring to Dorothy, the Good Witch Glenda, or the Wicked Witch of the West?
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 02:37 PM
Oct 2022

Or is it Toto?

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
43. The Fundamentalist Christians have a valid point about good witches.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 03:15 PM
Oct 2022

 


But the most publicized banning of The Wizard of Oz was in 1986. Seven Fundamentalist Christian families in Tennessee wanted the book banned in public schools. They filed a lawsuit against the schools because they didn't like the novel's depiction of nice witches.

The Judeo-Christian belief is that witches should be burned, and the Bible makes no exceptions for good witches.

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." - Exodus 22:18

(Of course the witch must first be proven to weigh the same as a duck. )



Towlie

(5,324 posts)
47. Too bad God is so impotent that he couldn't correct that mistranslation of his word.
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 11:36 AM
Oct 2022

 


But God works in misogynistic ways.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,346 posts)
48. "God works in misogynistic ways" -- Can we ban that 'women-are-property' book?
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:12 PM
Oct 2022

Never heard that expression before. It certainly fits history!

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
53. Can y'all read those reasons? 😳
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 01:30 PM
Oct 2022

Hop on Pop for promoting violence against fathers? A Wrinkle in Time for promoting the occult? Chronicles of Narnia—that was as Christian allegory as it gets and they still can’t handle it?

This is hysteria, by definition. I’d fear for kids but I know how much many will want to read them because they’re banned. Lord, people are pitiful…

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