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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is refusing to listen to any counsel who says anything contrary to what he wants to hear
TFG cannot hire first rate counsel without paying a $3 million retainer in advance. Most top tier firms want to be paid. In addition, TFG does not listen to his attorneys. It appears that TFG is ignoring the advice of his $3 million lawyer and listening to idiots who are telling TFG what he wants to hear.
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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-s-instincts-win-out-mar-lago-escalation-supreme-court-n1299314?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
In the Mar-a-Lago documents case, especially, as is his nature, hes refusing to listen to any counsel who says anything contrary to what he wants to hear. And its costing him dearly both in money and in continued legal exposure as he takes his legal battle against the Justice Department to the Supreme Court.
It appears that, for the most part, the lawyers Trump has retained in his post-presidency have been acceding to his demands, no matter how ridiculous or personally damaging. (See: the ridiculous defamation suit filed against CNN this week.) At least one of them could face legal jeopardy for having signed off on official documents saying Trump, whod squirreled away documents, had fully responded to a subpoena demanding their return when he hadnt......
The Post reported Friday that Kise was benched for daring to suggest that Trump try to cooperate with the Justice Department. Federal authorities had searched Trumps Florida residence and club because they badly wanted to retrieve the classified documents that remained there even after a federal subpoena, Kise argued, according to The Post. With that material back in government hands, maybe prosecutors could be persuaded to resolve the whole issue quietly......
As we saw after the 2020 election, the Chris Kises and Alex Cannons of Trumpworld have always been drowned out by the Rudy Gulianis and Sidney Powells. Despite having no legal training, Trump is predisposed to listen to whichever voice in a room sounds most like his own. Reconciliation and noble defeat are anathema to these types, not when theres even the most absurdly small chance of victory. In hoping for a deus ex machina reprieve from the Supreme Court, Trump, with his visceral need for escalation, has won out yet again
I have enjoyed watching the legal screwups by the TFG team. I was amused by the filing to the SCOTUS. The brief was written better but was such a long shot that it was sad.
TFG needs to listen to his competent attorney and ignore the idiots who are telling TFG what he wants to hear
iemanja
(53,032 posts)This increases the chance that he'll go to jail, which is a good thing for America.
Blue Owl
(50,374 posts)Shove a pacifier in his mouth and put him in the corner
Cha
(297,240 posts)I bet hes overfilling his pamper at the same moment .
Merlot
(9,696 posts)pandr32
(11,584 posts)everyonematters
(3,433 posts)borderline mentally ill. He can function on a day to day basis, but as time goes on, he is destructive. Because of his ego, he is extremely susceptible to delusion.
Brother Buzz
(36,434 posts)She says he's a serial liar suffering from multiple psychological disorders as a result of a screwed relationship with his parents.
Deminpenn
(15,286 posts)nt
Hekate
(90,686 posts)Kaleva
(36,301 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,242 posts)Hekate
(90,686 posts)SMH
dembotoz
(16,804 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,470 posts)Creating his own reality..lol.
lame54
(35,290 posts)Maybe they should listen to him
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,242 posts)Tonight, TFG cited the "Socks" case. It seems that TFG wants to rely on this case. The good thing that any litigation under the Presidental Records Act will be in the DC Circuit Court and not in Florida with Loose Cannon
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TFG appears to want to litigate the applicability of the Presidential Records Act. The case cited dealing with President Clinton's personal records is being wrongly cited by TFG. It seems that TFG's attorneys either did not read this case or poorly explained this case to TFG
First, if TFG wants to litigate the Presidential Records Act, this lawsuit needs to be moved to Washington. Only the DC circuit has jurisdiction over Presidential Records Act cases. Judge Loose Cannon will not hear this case
Second, the two cases are not similar at all.
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/team-trump-takes-interest-clinton-sock-drawer-case-rcna47363?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
Trumps newest filing for the first time refers to what has been called the Clinton sock drawer case, a 2012 ruling concerning a former presidents power in this case, Bill Clinton to unilaterally decide what is a private record and what is a Presidential Records Act document in his post-presidency.
And what, pray tell is the Clinton sock drawer case? Im glad you asked.
During his White House tenure, Bill Clinton spoke at some length with Pulitzer Prize-winning author Taylor Branch, and as part of the project, there were many recordings of their conversations. According to one 2007 account, tapes were at one point stored in a sock drawer.
A conservative group called Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit, demanding that Clinton be forced to turn over the recordings. In 2012, a federal court rejected the organizations claims, concluding that the tapes were personal records, not official presidential materials.......
But its not nearly that simple. NBC News report added, Unmentioned by Trumps defenders who began raising the issue of the sock drawer case last month is that Jacksons ruling explicitly states that the Presidential Records Act distinguishes presidential records from personal records, defined as documents that are purely private or nonpublic character.
In contrast, Trump took highly sensitive national security secrets to his glorified country club. To see the two as comparable is to overlook every relevant detail.
Judge Berman would be happy to explain the differences to TFG's attorneys if this case is move to the correct set of courts and away from the TFG appointed unqualified judge
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Initech
(100,076 posts)Squeaky41
(160 posts)Who should care about a failed human.
Paladin
(28,257 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)And, the orange malignant narcissist is so far down that river that he doesn't he's in it and drowning. Somebody toss him the boat anchor already.
malaise
(268,998 posts)Lock him up!
Takket
(21,568 posts)efforts.........
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,242 posts)TFG wanted to trade the stolen documents for some mythical documents on the Russia investigation that would somehow prove that Putin and Russia did not help elect TFG. As Jill Wine Banks noted if these documents existed, TFG had four years as POTUS to find and release these documents. If these documents existed, Durham as a US Attorney could have gotten these documents. TFG wanted to offer to trade the stolen documents for documents that did not exist and when the National Archives fail to deliver non-existent documents, TFG would then claim that he is entitled to keep the stolen documents
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https://www.rawstory.com/trump-yeas-for-russia-documents/
Speaking to MSNBC on Monday evening, she explained that it's simply who Donald Trump is.
"He is definitely delusional in thinking this. First of all, as you noted, if he had such documents, if there were such documents, if they possibly existed, he had four years when he had every right to ask for them and to get them," she said. "My suspicion is they do not exist. So, let's take that first. Secondly, you cannot steal something to barter. It does go back to what happened in Ukraine where he was trying to say, okay, I'll give you what you're legally entitled to, the funding, if you do this terrible thing for me and make up something about Joe Biden. That is not how America is supposed to be doing business. That is illegal on every aspect."
"It should be that everybody in America realizes that there are no such documents, and even if there were, he can't trade stolen documents that he has no right to possession," said Wine Banks. "This goes back a long way. The Presidential Records Act was a result of Richard Nixon wanting to take tax deductions for having documents and trying to leave the White House when he resigned with the tapes. That's why we have this law, to give it to journalists and historians, to the American people, not to the person who created them as president."