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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,530 posts)
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 08:59 PM Oct 2022

At his rally in Arizona, TFG referred to the 'Clinton sock drawer case'

Tonight, TFG cited the "Socks" case. It seems that TFG wants to rely on this case. The good thing that any litigation under the Presidental Records Act will be in the DC Circuit Court and not in Florida with Loose Cannon




TFG appears to want to litigate the applicability of the Presidential Records Act. The case cited dealing with President Clinton's personal records is being wrongly cited by TFG. It seems that TFG's attorneys either did not read this case or poorly explained this case to TFG

First, if TFG wants to litigate the Presidential Records Act, this lawsuit needs to be moved to Washington. Only the DC circuit has jurisdiction over Presidential Records Act cases. Judge Loose Cannon will not hear this case

Second, the two cases are not similar at all.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/team-trump-takes-interest-clinton-sock-drawer-case-rcna47363?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

But as NBC News report added, it’d be an overstatement to suggest there was nothing new in the filing.

Trump’s newest filing for the first time refers to what has been called “the Clinton sock drawer case,” a 2012 ruling concerning a former president’s power — in this case, Bill Clinton — to unilaterally decide what is a private record and what is a Presidential Records Act document in his post-presidency.


And what, pray tell is “the Clinton sock drawer case”? I’m glad you asked.

During his White House tenure, Bill Clinton spoke at some length with Pulitzer Prize-winning author Taylor Branch, and as part of the project, there were many recordings of their conversations. According to one 2007 account, tapes were at one point stored in a sock drawer.

A conservative group called Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit, demanding that Clinton be forced to turn over the recordings. In 2012, a federal court rejected the organization’s claims, concluding that the tapes were personal records, not official presidential materials.......

But it’s not nearly that simple. NBC News’ report added, “Unmentioned by Trump’s defenders who began raising the issue of the sock drawer case last month is that Jackson’s ruling explicitly states that the Presidential Records Act distinguishes presidential records from ‘personal records,’ defined as documents that are ‘purely private or nonpublic character.’”

In contrast, Trump took highly sensitive national security secrets to his glorified country club. To see the two as comparable is to overlook every relevant detail.

Judge Berman would be happy to explain the differences to TFG's attorneys if this case is move to the correct set of courts and away from the TFG appointed unqualified judge

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Nululu

(842 posts)
7. Socks was the Clinton's cat. Lived for 20 years
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 09:41 PM
Oct 2022

A GOP congressman objected to the cost of postage when the White House answered mail addressed to the cat.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,530 posts)
12. This may make more sense that then facts oof the case TFG is citing
Mon Oct 10, 2022, 12:14 AM
Oct 2022

Bill Clinton had some personal recordings of interviews with ab author for a future book that he kept in his sock drawer. The court held that these were private records and not subject to the Presidential Records Act

lees1975

(3,878 posts)
4. Maybe people are catching on...
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 09:25 PM
Oct 2022

a family member in Arizona said a local news outlet reported that attendance at his rally was way below expectations.

captain queeg

(10,240 posts)
5. I saw a clip on YouTube today. Seems like I've seen it elsewhere before.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 09:34 PM
Oct 2022

They interviewed an obvious trumper whe had “a lot of questions about Obama’s role in 9/11”. The interviewer asked him the nature of the questions and the guy said he wondered where Obama was on 9/11. Why wasn’t he in his office…he took so many vacations he was never in his office when he needed to be. The interviewer asked him with a straight face if he had any idea why Obama wasn’t there and he fell back on all the vacations he took. Irony is dead, apparently not supidity however. If I hadn’t seen this guy before I’ve seen others state similar ideas in the past. The interviewer didn’t waste his breath trying to correct him.

NBachers

(17,136 posts)
8. So, we have the Sock Drawer Case, and President Bill Clinton's White House cat was named "Socks."
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 10:08 PM
Oct 2022

Coincidence?? I Thnik NoTT!!1!! Do The Reserach!

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