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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is not a decision the Supreme Court made in 1840. This was a decision the SC made TODAY.
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chowder66
(9,075 posts)jimfields33
(15,940 posts)Had a chance to keep them off the jury and the lawyer didnt.
chowder66
(9,075 posts)Marthe48
(17,015 posts)just offer the best defense for their client. Or so I've heard, especially when we see horrible crimes committed, and the accused, who seems totally guilty, gets off on a technicality. It is frustrating, and the law is an ass.
jimfields33
(15,940 posts)At least object to those who find unacceptable.
Marthe48
(17,015 posts)Whoever brought this appeal might have pointed out that the accused didn't have competent or adequate counsel. That might have worked in a lower court, and got him a retrial. His original lawyers dropped the ball.
I wonder what their views are on interracial marriage? Wonder if another Thomas couple is sweating this?
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)Whether the attorney's conduct fell was unreasonable enough to rise to the level of constitutionally ineffective assistance of counsel.
Given that courts have failed to find that counsel who slept through death penalty trials was ineffective, so long as they did not repeatedly sleep through substantial portions of the trial, this is not surprising - nor is it limited to recent courts.
Especially in death penalty cases, appellate courts and the Supreme Court are reluctant to find ineffective assistance of counsel.
demmiblue
(36,878 posts)WASHINGTON The Supreme Court on Tuesday turned away a Black death row inmates appeal that he did not receive a fair trial because several jurors had expressed opposition to interracial relationships, prompting Justice Sonia Sotomayor to suggest that the conviction may have been tainted.
The conservative majority courts decision not to hear the case, over the dissent of Sotomayor and the two other liberal justices, leaves in place Andre Thomass conviction and death sentence for murdering his step-daughter in a gruesome attack her, his estranged wife, who was white, and their son.
"No jury deciding whether to recommend a death sentence should be tainted by potential racial biases that could infect its deliberation or decision, particularly where the case involved an interracial crime," Sotomayor wrote. She was joined in the dissent by Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson. The court has a 6-3 conservative majority.
It is the role of courts "to safeguard the fairness of criminal trials by ensuring that jurors do not harbor, or at the very least should put aside, racially biased sentiments," Sotomayor added.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-challenge-death-sentence-racially-prejudiced-jur-rcna51058
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Old Crank
(3,622 posts)Wonder why your court has lost any shred of credibility?
dchill
(38,521 posts)It's all faux.
EndlessWire
(6,562 posts)I dunno, the SC is effed. Let's see if they choose to hear Donald's case.
This guy may well have killed all those people. That's not the point. The point is to make sure that any death sentence is beyond reproach, if that's possible.
This is why we should abolish the death sentence.
Spazito
(50,445 posts)And the 6 right wing Supremes wonder why their poll numbers are in the cellar.
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)dchill
(38,521 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)let's start there. Ask reality winner all about what to do.
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)Pas-de-Calais
(9,909 posts)That is truly disgusting
KPN
(15,649 posts)Add undo this SC to the list of absolute highest priorities for the Democratic Party going forward. Unfortunately, its a very long list. One that built up over decades of collaboration and compromise with what ultimately was and is now clearly the enemy of democracy, equal rights and fairness.
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(4,391 posts)"Retroactively", if necessary...
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,409 posts)Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!
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ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)How could they let that slide? How could the judge allow an answer showing clear bias as anything other than a disqualifier?
And, that leaving aside how SCOTUS could think this was ok.
jaxexpat
(6,846 posts)"Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART)" for changing the misdirection of the USSC? Or does the majority of this august body ascertain "DART" stands for "die and rot, Thomas"?
Just asking, would a little asteroid "nudger" be wasted on the "conservative" majority USSC? They'd, perhaps, see it as an exceptional shift in jurisprudence, a great knocking on proudly locked doors, though it be but a small shift, their fear, swept into the abyss of cruel ignorance from whence it slunk.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)It seems to me that he should have called the defence attorney into chamber to grill him his lack of objection to this potential humorist. Indeed, how was this/these individuals even allowed in the jury pool. Indeed, this case displays the corruption in the judiciary that has caused the Court to lose the respect that Alito blew his top over. This decision will just make those cries all the louder and deservedly so.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)We abolished the death penalty in 1847.
Yet again, another reason why Michigan doesnt belong in a republic with Texas.
We have more in common with Ontario than Texas.
paleotn
(17,946 posts)dickthegrouch
(3,183 posts)Both the decision and the court.
live love laugh
(13,124 posts)Id REALLY like to know what made him such a self hating scumbag.
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)The court was not asked to consider race bias - except in the limited context of whether the failure to question and/or object to jurors was so irresponsible as to deprive the inmate of his constitutional right to counsel.
This is not a new issue in death penalty cases - appellate courts are extremely reluctant to find/review ineffective assistance of counsel claims. Numerous Circuit Court decisions have held that an attorney does not render ineffective assistance of counsel when they sleep through trial - unless they sleep repeatedly through a substantial portion of the trial - AND - the portions slept through were so critical that the attorney's failure to be awake during those portions harmed his client.
That doesn't make it any less horrendous - BUT - this is not new or unique to this court.
Nixie
(16,975 posts)This was all very evident years ago. Dont ya know.