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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsATTN anti vaccine assholes do you know why we don't see "lock jaw" anymore? Because of a vaccine ..
.... called a TETANUS SHOT. The bacteria which causes lock jaw is all over the places in our soils and in the
guts of some farm animals too.
Man suffering from spasms of lock jaw after getting the bacteria, Clostridium tetani into his system.
From Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus
Tetanus, also known as lockjaw, is a bacterial infection caused by Clostridium tetani, and is characterized by muscle spasms. In the most common type, the spasms begin in the jaw and then progress to the rest of the body. Each spasm usually lasts a few minutes. Spasms occur frequently for three to four weeks.[1] Some spasms may be severe enough to fracture bones.[2] Other symptoms of tetanus may include fever, sweating, headache, trouble swallowing, high blood pressure, and a fast heart rate. Onset of symptoms is typically three to twenty-one days following infection. Recovery may take months. About ten percent of cases prove to be fatal.[1]
C. tetani is commonly found in soil, saliva, dust, and manure. The bacteria generally enter through a break in the skin such as a cut or puncture wound by a contaminated object.[1][3] They produce toxins that interfere with normal muscle contractions.[4] Diagnosis is based on the presenting signs and symptoms. The disease does not spread between people.[1]
Tetanus can be prevented by immunization with the tetanus vaccine. In those who have a significant wound and have had fewer than three doses of the vaccine, both vaccination and tetanus immune globulin are recommended. The wound should be cleaned and any dead tissue should be removed. In those who are infected, tetanus immune globulin or, if unavailable, intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIG) is used.[1] Muscle relaxants may be used to control spasms. Mechanical ventilation may be required if a person's breathing is affected.[4]
Tetanus occurs in all parts of the world but is most frequent in hot and wet climates where the soil has a high organic content.[1] In 2015 there were about 209,000 infections and about 59,000 deaths globally.[5][6] This is down from 356,000 deaths in 1990.[7] In the US there are about 30 cases per year, almost all of which have not been vaccinated.[8] An early description of the disease was made by Hippocrates in the 5th century BC. The cause of the disease was determined in 1884 by Antonio Carle and Giorgio Rattone at the University of Turin, and a vaccine was developed in 1924.
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BTW I just thought of this because I was reading the late David McCullough's, "The Great Bridge" and John Roebling
who started the Brooklyn Bridge died from lock jaw because he refused more modern medicine and kept his injured
foot in buckets of cold water and died a horrible death. DeSantis, Abbott, Fox News, and so on are spreading mis-
information about the side effects of the new C-19 Vaccine and that will sicken and or kill people.
EYESORE 9001
(25,965 posts)A chiropractor set up practice in the tiny town from which I hail. He cut his finger doing some home-improvement chore or other. Finger got infected, but he was adamant about turning down western medicine, including antibiotics. He eventually succumbed to sepsis - entirely preventable but the guy died at ~40 because of stubbornness.
FakeNoose
(32,722 posts)It's almost a religion with them, and it predates anything in the current MAGAt climate.
Chiropractic "teachings" go back to Middle Age folk remedies and that's why it's considered a pseudoscience by the medical professions. Because of their objection to vaccinations of any kind, as well as prescription medications, many modern chiropractors have sort of gravitated to the ultra-conservative political groups that have sprung up in the last 20 years or so. The point is that chiropractors aren't politically motivated, just lumped in with the crazies by default.
I have a personal friend who's a retired chiropractor, and he did finally get the Covid vaccination about a year later than the rest of us. So not all of them are completely anti-vax.
(llink) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic
IronLionZion
(45,514 posts)people have had strokes during chiropractic adjustments. Cracking backs can feel good but there are plenty of risks.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)exploited for money and power.
Botany
(70,567 posts)Yup, America has some of the best medical schools, biological scientists, and doctors in the world
and yet people will listen to medical misinformation from their pastors, right wing talking heads,
and republican politicians because they like the way that misinformation makes them feel.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)massive deprogramming from the shit they listen to and believe.
Botany
(70,567 posts).... of such an age that death alone will still their idiocy/racism, others might shift if economic reality
comes into their lives, and we need to pour some of the trillions we piss away in defense spending
into public education and a national broad band network.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Botany
(70,567 posts).... us the U.N. to bring in Hamas fighters from the middle east so he could take away "the people's
guns" and then get a third term?
Drive a pick up, with a big dog, hunt, fish, camp, be white in OH, and you get to hear it all.
I still love the man dearly but I have lost an old friend to right wing disinformation from the web.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)like some type of brain infection.
Botany
(70,567 posts)... be working to support "all views." But in the end they push bull shit that 2 or 3 steps up the food chain
is funded by a Koch brother.
IronLionZion
(45,514 posts)Smart people use family planning while idiots breed like bunnies.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Ocelot II
(115,829 posts)because people got vaccinated. Measles started to disappear, at least in the US, until the anti-vaxxers decided vaccines caused autism, which they do not. The anti-covid-vax movement is disproportionately killing GOPers, but it's also making it much harder to keep the virus from spreading.
gab13by13
(21,385 posts)mandated that we get several vaccines before we could travel overseas.
ProfessorGAC
(65,157 posts)Had to get the malaria booster more than a few times.
Emile
(22,882 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)But the typical anti vaccine asshole would point out that the tetanus vaccine does indeed prevent tetanus, unlike any of the Covid-19 vaccines which primarily lessen the severity of infection.
The fact that people still contract Covid-19 after vaccination is one of their main talking points, and they are happy to point out that the tetanus vaccine, polio vaccine, etc., are all much more effective in comparison.
But I never get the point of these threads addressing people who are unlikely to be in the audience.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)Their beliefs are inaccurate. They prevent the diseases from spreading inside your body by teaching your body how to fight them off. Another reason the "I have an immune system" argument was so stupid, yes you do, and if it's never been exposed it won't know what to do.
One way to look at the deaths by viruses like covid is that your body over-reacts. The virus doesn't kill you, your bodies response to the virus kills you.
It's not magic.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)But the comparison to other vaccines is not particularly convincing to them.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)see these posts ... and learn.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Those anti-vaxxers will change their minds once their unvaccinated friends and family start dying en masse.
paleotn
(17,946 posts)Imagine MERS as communicable as COVID. A cousin of COVID, MERS has an estimated lethality of 25%. Mileage may vary but thats scary as hell. Thus much of the early 2020 freak out. It could have easily been vastly worse.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)I don't think it will. This is too firmly entrenched in the culture wars fight.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Over a million already dead, that's pretty lethal, and they don't seem to be budging.
dembotoz
(16,826 posts)especially before the mid terms
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)Get the vaccine as a preventive measure, since there are so few cases, its not medically necessary. But I would feel better if I could get the vaccine because I have an irrational fear of contracting rabies that haunts me.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)With over 400 million deaths killed more than war.
A worldwide mandatory vaccine led by the CDC/WHO eliminated it 100%>
Part of the problem with public appreciation of vaccines is that they have been so successful that the public forgets the terrible diseases it has conquered.
When you list the greatest human achievements of all time it might look like this
1) Control of fire
2) Electricity
3) Scientific Method
4) Self Government
5) Print press
6) Currency
7) Vaccines
Lists might defer but vaccines have to be in the top 10.
Botany
(70,567 posts)n/t
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Botany
(70,567 posts)Summary
Antonie van Leeuwenhoek was the first great microscopist. He began to experiment with spherical glass lenses. Van Leeuwenhoek made 419 lenses, of which 217 were incorporated into simple microscopes. Using this simple optical instrument, van Leeuwenhoek made drawings of what he saw that are truly spectacular. His first discovery was an array of protozoa swimming in pond water. He called these organisms his wee beasties. Van Leeuwenhoek's work came to the attention of Regnier de Graaf in 1668. De Graaf's introduction of van Leeuwenhoek to Henry Oldenburg led to the publication of all of van Leeuwenhoek's findings as letters in the Transactions of the Royal Society. In these letters, van Leeuwenhoek describes Spirogyra and the flagellated protozoa in pond water, erythrocytes, leukocytes, spermatozoa, urate crystals in gout, the life cycle of the flea, Giardia, venous and lymphatic capillaries, volvox, and vorticella, among many more things.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781119205791.ch18
And later on he found bacteria, sperm cells, and red blood cells.
Hekate
(90,774 posts)Never could figure out how to pronounce his name, but I never forgot him. Thanks for recalling an old friend, as it were.
packman
(16,296 posts)Botany
(70,567 posts)This happened when she was a little under 2 years old.
BTW Human papillomavirus vaccine is a good one too. But some of the right wing "christian"
anti vaxers are against this vaccine because of something something which I will not clutter my
already cluttered mind with.
HPV is sexually transmitted, and we cant talk about or acknowledge sex.
Botany
(70,567 posts)Which is really none of my business.
Hekate
(90,774 posts)evolves
(5,403 posts)HPV is the number one cause of genital,anal, and oropharyngeal cancers in both genders
Iggo
(47,564 posts)Or something.
Also: NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE!
There. I have successfully defended myself from your science.
Good day, Sir.
womanofthehills
(8,758 posts)The first thought most people likely have when they step on a dirty nail in rotting wood or slice open their hand on scrap metal is a string of colorful expletives as searing pain shoots through their wound. But the second thoughtperhaps after stopping the bleedingmay very well be, When did I get my last tetanus shot?
The tetanus vaccine prevents the serious infection caused by tetanus bacteria that kills up to one in five people who develop it. Symptoms include muscle stiffness, seizures, fever, headache, stomach or muscle spasms, inability to swallow and a whole body of pain. Thats the bad news.
The good news is, if you had the full series of tetanus vaccine doses as a child or, for those over age 30, any booster in the past several decades, you likely have nothing to worry about. Instead of getting a tetanus booster every 10 years as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention currently recommends for adults, a new study suggests immunity from the vaccine lasts at least 30 years. That goes for protection against both tetanus and diphtheria, the other disease that the Td booster protects against.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2016/03/23/got-your-tetanus-shot-you-may-not-need-another-for-30-more-years/?sh=29e4aced6db3
womanofthehills
(8,758 posts)According to WHO, no reported cases in US in 2018 and 2019 but 26 reportred cases in 2020 and 17 in 2021.
https://immunizationdata.who.int/pages/incidence/ttetanus.html?CODE=USA&DISEASE=TTETANUS&YEAR=
Marthe48
(17,011 posts)about their personal health, no less, pretty much getting what they get.
The other day, my friend and I were talking about measles and polio. We were both born in the 1950s. I got chicken pox when I was 3 or 4, and I remember crying because I itched so bad. I got measles in 3rd grade, and I was so sick, I missed 3 weeks of school, and my parents kept me in a dark room to protect my eyes. One of the neighbor ladies was pregnant, and had to isolate to protect her fetus. Thank God that worked for her.
We had a relative who survived polio, and my family was extremely wary of contaminated water. When the oral polio vaccine came out, our parents had us lined up 3 weeks in a row for the SOS (Sabin Oral Sunday) doses given out at the local high school. And the lines were long, believe me!
I guess that people who lived through part of the time period that the vaccines for common disease weren't invented have a better idea of public health and disease prevention. I wish more people today would wake the hell up and get vaccinated.
Thank you for posting this.
Botany
(70,567 posts)... spread C-19 by passing along antidotal stories about bad reactions to the C-19 vaccine.
BTW did you know the 1st American leader who made people get vaccinated? G. Washington
for small pox.
Marthe48
(17,011 posts)about Washington.
I remembered that a member of royalty had her children innoculated (variolation) against small pox after she learned about the practice in Turkey, and after 1720, it was a popular treatment in England. I had to look up Edward Jenner and refresh my memory about the lady who helped make innoculation popular. When I was younger, I was interested in the studies that led to medical breakthroughs and people like Jenner, Pasteur, Lister, and other remain heroes to me
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,400 posts)The key to survival, therefore, is human sacrifice. The Great Cosmic Dog demands that we isolate all anti-vaxxers in Holy Enclaves so that they may give of themselves to increase the Woo.
Or just jab 'em when they're not looking.
Botany
(70,567 posts)... is those that died from C-19 but were not diagnosed with the disease and God only knows how many
died from other diseases or injuries or conditions but were unable to get the care they need because the
hospitals and clinics were overwhelmed with covid patients. And yet just 2 days ago Fox News was spreading
misinformation about side effects from the new booster which is made to take on the newest variants of the
virus and those new variants are most likely the result of people not getting vaccinated and then they become
hosts of the virus where it can live and mutate and become a new strain.