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BlueGreenLady

(2,824 posts)
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 03:22 PM Oct 2022

Nasty Newsmax Cover

I picked up my 91 year old Dad's mail today and there was a Newsmax magazine with a very derogatory front cover with a picture of President Biden with a face mask half off. The headlines on it were the usual RW warnings: something about the coming Biden Recession and de-funding the police, etc. My Dad did not subscribe to this rag, so I don't know why he was sent this magazine. If I had not seen it my Dad would have blithely read the magazine without any knowledge of it's MAGA bias. How do Democrats fight back against this amount of Fascist BS?

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Nasty Newsmax Cover (Original Post) BlueGreenLady Oct 2022 OP
Turn them around when you see them. we can do it Oct 2022 #1
Unfortunately they came in his mailbox. BlueGreenLady Oct 2022 #4
I once had a boss who was a full-fledged RW hosebag EYESORE 9001 Oct 2022 #2
good job, good effort Skittles Oct 2022 #9
Lesson from my childhood: the person who brings in the mail gets to toss all the junk mail ... Hekate Oct 2022 #3
I will take your recommendation BlueGreenLady Oct 2022 #5
Since he didn't subscribe, deposit in recycle bin. we can do it Oct 2022 #6
How do you know that? brooklynite Oct 2022 #21
OP said he did not. we can do it Oct 2022 #24
Probably being distributed as some sort of tax deduction..... TheRealNorth Oct 2022 #7
My money is on the truth. (Eventually) czarjak Oct 2022 #8
About three weeks ago I got a copy out of the blue. Dale in Laurel MD Oct 2022 #10
Mail the mag a request to unsubscribe. summer_in_TX Oct 2022 #11
Several months ago, I got a "free copy." Archae Oct 2022 #12
About a year ago. I got The Epoch Times in my mail. panader0 Oct 2022 #13
They're not Moonies, but Falun Gong Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #16
They were leaving that shit rag on all the driveways in my neighborhood a few years ago. GoCubsGo Oct 2022 #20
Write refused on it, VGNonly Oct 2022 #14
Subscribe, Refuse Delivery, Help to drive that mag into bankrptcy. TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #25
Return to sender. Let them pay return postage. cbabe Oct 2022 #15
Magazines don't pay return postage Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #17
This works. Every bit they have to pay is good. It all adds up. cbabe Oct 2022 #18
THEY DON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING BUT THE MAILING Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #22
Oh, and Frst Class and above senders don't pay for returned mail Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #19
Thanks for clarifying but could do without the snark. cbabe Oct 2022 #23

BlueGreenLady

(2,824 posts)
4. Unfortunately they came in his mailbox.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 03:45 PM
Oct 2022

At least I let him know that it was a Right Wing Propaganda rag. If I see it again I will consider tossing it immediately.

EYESORE 9001

(25,965 posts)
2. I once had a boss who was a full-fledged RW hosebag
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 03:36 PM
Oct 2022

This was ca. 2010. He subscribed to NewsMax magazine, presumably on the company’s dime, and left that abhorrent rag on the coffee table in the reception area. I performed ‘housekeeping’ occasionally and the magazines were never seen afterward.

Also, the Democratic House candidate came around to seek an audience with the workers. He was nearly thrown out on his ear by my hosebag boss, who went on to extend an invitation to the repug to come speak at the plant. I dropped a dime on him to the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, corporate, and anyone else who would listen. He got his azz reamed good and proper.

Hekate

(90,773 posts)
3. Lesson from my childhood: the person who brings in the mail gets to toss all the junk mail ...
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 03:44 PM
Oct 2022

…in the trash can on the way in to the house. You’d be doing him a favor.

I did finally ask my mom who the Scientologists were, as they were sending us multiple mailings per day and my instructions regarding them were explicit.

brooklynite

(94,703 posts)
21. How do you know that?
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:54 PM
Oct 2022

Setting aside the fact that it’s illegal to tamper with someone else’s mail, is there evidence that it wasn’t a subscription?

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
7. Probably being distributed as some sort of tax deduction.....
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 04:09 PM
Oct 2022

For "issue-advocacy" or other nonsense. Republican tax laws allow them to propagandize at taxpayers expense.

Dale in Laurel MD

(698 posts)
10. About three weeks ago I got a copy out of the blue.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 05:00 PM
Oct 2022

They're apparently buying mailing lists more or less randomly (unless they're targeting older folks -- I'm 77).

summer_in_TX

(2,745 posts)
11. Mail the mag a request to unsubscribe.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 06:22 PM
Oct 2022

Be sure to includea copy of the address and the UC Code or whatever it's called

Then go to some good liberal mag sites and sign Dad up for free trials.

Same for email newsletters. Sometimes they get so much it's too much effort to unsubscribe them, but you can make sure that what they get is not all one-sided.

That's what helped Jen Senko (The Brainwashing of My Dad) and her mom in dealing with her dad who had become very right wing after years of listening to RW radio and TV, subscribed him to liberal newsletters so he got a mix.

Archae

(46,343 posts)
12. Several months ago, I got a "free copy."
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 06:25 PM
Oct 2022

Along with a lot of hysterics about how Biden was going to destroy the US, I finally had to threaten them with a lawsuit when they wouldn't stop sending me this crap in my e-mail.

Same with WND.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
13. About a year ago. I got The Epoch Times in my mail.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 06:28 PM
Oct 2022

Very right wing. I believe they are owned by the Rev Moon. They had just started and sent copies to
everyone I guess.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
20. They were leaving that shit rag on all the driveways in my neighborhood a few years ago.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:50 PM
Oct 2022

It came rolled up and in a plastic bag, like the local fish wrap. They left it at least three weeks in a row before it stopped. It always went straight in the recycling bin. A lot of the others in the neighborhood sat out and got rain-soaked, and eventually wound up in the trash without having been read. Which is a encouraging.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
25. Subscribe, Refuse Delivery, Help to drive that mag into bankrptcy.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 09:10 AM
Oct 2022

.

Refuse delivery so you mail carrier doesn't think you're a dink.

.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
17. Magazines don't pay return postage
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:38 PM
Oct 2022

Because they don't get the magazine back if the USPS can't deliver it. It's not part of the rate of postage they pay. Return to sender applies only to First Class mail and above. Magazines are 2nd or even 3rd class mail.

Depending on the kind of postage used, a 2nd class sender and certain 3rd class senders will usually get an electronic notification that the magazine wasn't deliverable. For the rest, some clerk at the local post office will cut out the name and address from the rest of the magazine and mail that scrap of data back to the company so they can remove the recipient from their mailing list. Those senders get charged a minimal amount per addressee put in an envelope. Don't remember the amount anymore, but it wasn't all that much.

Either way, the post office then tosses the undeliverable magazines. So you're not "getting away" with anything by sending it back. Postal workers are smarter than that.

There are ways to stick it to unwanted senders, but that's not one of them. For the record, putting Business Reply Mail postcards on bowling balls or bricks isn't one of them, either. So knock that nonsense off, too.

cbabe

(3,549 posts)
18. This works. Every bit they have to pay is good. It all adds up.
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:48 PM
Oct 2022

For the rest, some clerk at the local post office will cut out the name and address from the rest of the magazine and mail that scrap of data back to the company so they can remove the recipient from their mailing list. Those senders get charged a minimal amount per addressee put in an envelope. Don't remember the amount anymore, but it wasn't all that much.

Plus you get your name off the list.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
22. THEY DON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING BUT THE MAILING
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:58 PM
Oct 2022

Sending it back does NOTHING.

And I can assure you that the number of people who have to pay for those little scraps of paper? They're a vanishingly small number of postal clients.

Let me put it this way: On any given day when I worked returned mail, I would send out at least 50 buckets of magazines to be tossed.

There are so few of the little scraps to cut up and send, that it could take over a year to fill up 5-10 buckets at some stations.

And most of the people sending those are decent companies, like non-profit organizations, hobby groups, some peer-reviewed science publishers and the like. The number of right wing lunatics? I could count those on my hand. And I was in some of the stations where they had brought me in to get them caught up on a year or more of "paper doll" mailings as we called them. I think the most I ever had to charge any of them was $1.20, and that isn't isn't going to break them.

At the rate I was getting paid, it cost more than $1.25 for me to pick up the magazine, cut out the addressee names, fill out the address to the mailer along with the amount owed, seal the envelope and drop it off for mailing.

So you're not getting any victory at all from this.

Really.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
19. Oh, and Frst Class and above senders don't pay for returned mail
Wed Oct 12, 2022, 10:49 PM
Oct 2022

It's part of their initial postage paid. The ONLY time someone has to pay for returned mail is if the mail was returned for lacking sufficient postage on it. Put the 2c or whatever amount it needs on there, and USPS will deliver it. If it can't be delivered, you get it back, no extra charge.

So you still get away with NOTHING for sending back that mail.

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