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question everything

(47,485 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 09:44 PM Oct 2022

Pelosi tried to get Northam to send the VA National Guard but he could not?

Only the DC guards could be deployed?

And with whom did she speak in the Pentagon? General Milley?

Was hard for me to follow all the calls. At least in the clip shown in the afternoon.

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Pelosi tried to get Northam to send the VA National Guard but he could not? (Original Post) question everything Oct 2022 OP
Someone/unit from VA was sent, elleng Oct 2022 #1
And..did they make a difference? I do remember that when Pence asked for them question everything Oct 2022 #3
He was concerned they would have no legal right to act spooky3 Oct 2022 #2
And did they help? question everything Oct 2022 #4
IIRC they couldn't get clear authorization to act legally within DC. Christopher spooky3 Oct 2022 #6
The troopers came much faster than the National Guard bottomofthehill Oct 2022 #9
Here's a tweet from Gov Northam that day spooky3 Oct 2022 #10
I hope that this too will be studied and will draw conclusions. question everything Oct 2022 #12
Totally agree. At the very least, MD and VA should have the power to respond spooky3 Oct 2022 #14
And they did with their police departments bots State and County units. bottomofthehill Oct 2022 #15
Virginia State troopers were on the capitol grounds long before the tweet was sent. bottomofthehill Oct 2022 #16
Flynn. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #5
I hope both Flynns get what they deserve before this is over. brer cat Oct 2022 #7
Let's hope. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #8
Acting DOD secy. blocked them mcar Oct 2022 #11
But then Pence did call and got them. question everything Oct 2022 #13

question everything

(47,485 posts)
3. And..did they make a difference? I do remember that when Pence asked for them
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 09:49 PM
Oct 2022

they did manage to take control

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
2. He was concerned they would have no legal right to act
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 09:49 PM
Oct 2022

Outside VA. He offered 200 state troopers and a unit of the VA National Guard when on the phone with the Speaker, per the video shown today.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
4. And did they help?
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 09:52 PM
Oct 2022

Someday, someplace there should be a chronology of when help started arriving and the failed coup was done

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
6. IIRC they couldn't get clear authorization to act legally within DC. Christopher
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:01 PM
Oct 2022

Miller had to sign off on it and he did not.

Here’s one of his and Trump’s bs statements about pre Jan. 6 planning:

https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-miller-trump-gave-no-order-deploy-troops-january-6-2022-7?amp

Here’s more info about the chain of authority:


?s=46&t=8-z1kX0jwlkF1yheS_h6CQ

bottomofthehill

(8,332 posts)
9. The troopers came much faster than the National Guard
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:28 AM
Oct 2022

VA troopers, MD Troopers, local police from MD and VA came to support USCP and DC Metropolitan

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
10. Here's a tweet from Gov Northam that day
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 08:47 PM
Oct 2022

?s=46&t=DhRyIfkAAcHYyCYUukko9w

Notice the time—around 3:30, because Miller and Trump wouldn’t authorize them earlier.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
12. I hope that this too will be studied and will draw conclusions.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:23 PM
Oct 2022

We've already strengthened the counting of the electoral votes and now we have to establish guidelines on how to protect the Capitol and all Federal buildings. I shudder to think of these criminals surrounding the Whit House.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
14. Totally agree. At the very least, MD and VA should have the power to respond
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:30 PM
Oct 2022

Immediately to requests from the mayor of DC, without having to get approval from DOD or the President.

bottomofthehill

(8,332 posts)
15. And they did with their police departments bots State and County units.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:35 PM
Oct 2022

The National Guard is one of those odd lot pieces

bottomofthehill

(8,332 posts)
16. Virginia State troopers were on the capitol grounds long before the tweet was sent.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:36 PM
Oct 2022

Unlike Trump, Governor Northam acted first and tweeted second.

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
5. Flynn.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 09:59 PM
Oct 2022
Leaked memo: Ex-D.C. guardsman says Michael Flynn’s brother lied about Jan. 6

Matthews on Jan. 6 served as top attorney to then-D.C. National Guard chief Maj. Gen. William Walker, who has since been appointed the House sergeant at arms. The memo backs up Walker's testimony to Congress about an hours-long delay in the Army's call to deploy the D.C. National Guard to the Capitol.

"Every leader in the D.C. Guard wanted to respond and knew they could respond to the riot at the seat of government" before the order was finally given, Matthews wrote. But D.C. guardsmen instead sat "stunned watching in the Armory" as the Capitol came under siege.


Col. Earl Matthews, who served in various high-level National Security Council and Pentagon positions in the Trump era, sent a 36-page memo to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection calling Gen. Charles Flynn, who was deputy chief of staff for operations at the time, and Lt. Gen Walter Piatt, the director of Army staff, "absolute and unmitigated liars" over their accounts of the day to Congress. The Army previously falsely denied that Charles Flynn, whose brother has spent months pushing election and QAnon conspiracy theories, was involved in the response before admitting that he was present during a "tense" phone call on which Capitol Police and D.C. officials pleaded with the Pentagon to send the National Guard to the Capitol.

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Piatt and Flynn instead pushed to have Guardsmen take over normal police duties so D.C. officers could be deployed to the Capitol, according to the memo and another document produced by a D.C. Guard official on Jan. 7. Four minutes later, Flynn again "advised the D.C. National Guard to standby" while the request was sent to higher-ups. Everyone on the call was "astounded," Matthews wrote.

https://www.salon.com/2021/12/06/leaked-memo-ex-dc-guardsman-says-michael-flynns-brother-lied-about-jan-6/


You know the "higher-ups" was really Trump.

brer cat

(24,572 posts)
7. I hope both Flynns get what they deserve before this is over.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:33 PM
Oct 2022

Flynn and Piatt have blood on their hands.

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
8. Let's hope.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:42 PM
Oct 2022

The Committee said today they are passing many criminal charges to the DOJ.

They all have blood on their hands. Goddess, this thing is so complex. It makes my head hurt.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
13. But then Pence did call and got them.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:26 PM
Oct 2022

Or was it when whiny already told them to go home.

I remember watching the horrible images when it was announced that the Guards arrived to take over.

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