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Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:35 PM Oct 2022

I like Senator Chris Murphy's ideas for dealing with the Saudis





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1/ I support halting arms sales to Saudi Arabia, but there are two practical, immediate changes the U.S. can make to Saudi policy that will have an near term impact on the war in Ukraine.

Here me out. This is important.

2/ First, the Ukrainians are using (and need more) air-to-air AMRAAM missiles. These missiles are needed to defend against Russia's criminal bombardment of civilians.

The U.S. is scheduled to send 280 AMRAAMs to Saudi Arabia. These should be redirected to Ukraine.

3/ Second, there are U.S. owned and operated Patriot anti-missile batteries in Saudi Arabia right now. If Saudi Arabia isn't willing to take the side of Ukraine and U.S. over Russia, why should we keep these Patriots in Saudi Arabia when Ukraine and our NATO allies need them?

4/ We should remove these Patriot batteries from Saudi Arabia and move them to either Ukraine, or NATO partners who have transferred weapons to Ukraine and need to backfill defense systems.

These two steps would right-size our relationship with Saudi Arabia AND help Ukraine.
1:18 PM · Oct 13, 2022

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I like Senator Chris Murphy's ideas for dealing with the Saudis (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2022 OP
Excellent!! Stinky The Clown Oct 2022 #1
Love it! Sogo Oct 2022 #2
I vote for that. BigmanPigman Oct 2022 #3
I second the vote... Who owns a private Patriot battery??nt mitch96 Oct 2022 #34
K&R spanone Oct 2022 #4
What will it take to make it happen? gab13by13 Oct 2022 #5
could this be done by eo? mopinko Oct 2022 #8
IMHO an EO is not required; he's the Commander in Chief. Shipwack Oct 2022 #30
brilliant. mopinko Oct 2022 #6
Thank you Senator Murphy sheshe2 Oct 2022 #7
Solid reasoning. Plus it will make Republicans cry. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2022 #9
It probably would make them CRY KS Toronado Oct 2022 #21
TY & Senator Chris Murphy! Cha Oct 2022 #10
Kick dalton99a Oct 2022 #11
Couldn't agree more. Fuck the saudi royal family FoxNewsSucks Oct 2022 #12
Then what if the Saudis orchestrate an Mr.Bill Oct 2022 #13
Does this mean Oldtimeralso Oct 2022 #14
Probably just some bone adjustments. dchill Oct 2022 #26
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Oct 2022 #15
Did we not save butts in 91 Gator.Veteran Oct 2022 #16
And... The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2022 #17
Agree 1000% SCantiGOP Oct 2022 #18
Brilliant CanonRay Oct 2022 #19
For some reason I thought right after "Hear me out."... rubbersole Oct 2022 #20
The U.S. has a plethora of missiles.... SergeStorms Oct 2022 #24
Great ideas! burrowowl Oct 2022 #22
Knee jerk reactions...will lead to strategic failures. Xolodno Oct 2022 #23
So what... do nothing? nt. druidity33 Oct 2022 #29
What ? You think MBS won't rethink the OPEC deal KPN Oct 2022 #32
And how did Saudi Arabia "right-size" their relationship with us? dchill Oct 2022 #25
K&R. Mike Niendorff Oct 2022 #27
That makes sense to me. Progressive dog Oct 2022 #28
Sounds good to me. I'm sure Sen. Coons has KPN Oct 2022 #31
I can't see it happening. We (the country) are too addicted to the black stuff they sell us. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2022 #33
Let the Russians sell arms and food to the Saudis. marble falls Oct 2022 #35
Quit selling our domestic production. BidenRocks Oct 2022 #36
Time for the House of Saud to be held accountable instead of fist-bumped. Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #37
Yes Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #38
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #39
+100000 Pachamama Oct 2022 #40
Make it so. Ukraine deserves our help against Poopoo. Saudi Arabia has plenty of bone saws. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #41

gab13by13

(21,350 posts)
5. What will it take to make it happen?
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:42 PM
Oct 2022

Saudi Arabia is clearly siding with Russia. It needs to happen as soon as possible.

mopinko

(70,113 posts)
8. could this be done by eo?
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:46 PM
Oct 2022

damn, would i love to be knocking doors and be able to say- hey, did u c where joe kicked the saudi's in the crotch?

Shipwack

(2,162 posts)
30. IMHO an EO is not required; he's the Commander in Chief.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:11 PM
Oct 2022

He gets final say on what goes where.

That being said, there are treaty obligations that need to be upheld. I don't know if sending missiles to the Saudis is part of a treaty, or a business transaction that might have been approved by Congress, vice mandated by Congress.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
12. Couldn't agree more. Fuck the saudi royal family
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:37 PM
Oct 2022

who attacked us on 9/11 and have funded terrorism for decades. Fuck them all.

Gator.Veteran

(8 posts)
16. Did we not save butts in 91
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:12 AM
Oct 2022

I am pretty sure, without us, SCUDS would have decimated them in 1991. They owe us whether they like it or not.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
18. Agree 1000%
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:40 AM
Oct 2022

And if the Saudis get hit because their Patriot missiles aren’t there, they may be by the Iranian
kamikaze drones that are devastating Ukraine now.

Ironic poetic justice.

rubbersole

(6,693 posts)
20. For some reason I thought right after "Hear me out."...
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:48 AM
Oct 2022

He was going to suggest dismemberment of MBS. My bad.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
24. The U.S. has a plethora of missiles....
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:17 AM
Oct 2022

but there's a drastic lack of bonesaws in our aresenal. I blame Trump and Jared for that.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
23. Knee jerk reactions...will lead to strategic failures.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:16 AM
Oct 2022

The Houthi's (backed by Iran) will love this. They'll hit the oil facilities in Saudi Arabia resulting even more decreased output. Flame me if you want, but I know I'm right.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
32. What ? You think MBS won't rethink the OPEC deal
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:29 PM
Oct 2022

and commitments to Putin were this to be decided? Come on.

dchill

(38,502 posts)
25. And how did Saudi Arabia "right-size" their relationship with us?
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:20 AM
Oct 2022

With bone saws. I agree with Senator Murphy. For starters.

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
28. That makes sense to me.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:13 PM
Oct 2022

I do wonder how difficult it will be to use our AMRAAM missiles on the Russian aircraft flown by Ukraine.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
31. Sounds good to me. I'm sure Sen. Coons has
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:26 PM
Oct 2022

communicated this to Biden, Blinken and the DOD. Do it folks!

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
33. I can't see it happening. We (the country) are too addicted to the black stuff they sell us.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:55 PM
Oct 2022

What other reason can there be for selling them the missiles?

BidenRocks

(827 posts)
36. Quit selling our domestic production.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 06:40 PM
Oct 2022

Nationalize and build more refineries so losing one has a minimal impact.
Institute a windfall profits tax.

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