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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDr Ivan van Sertima Reveals some 12 evidential Discoveries About African History they don't want you
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Ivan is famous for They Came Before Columbus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Van_Sertima
GreenWave
(6,757 posts)A possible evidence source in Tabasco, Mexico:
Thanks for this - eff Columbus!
csziggy
(34,136 posts)He was just the latest visitor and the one to make it popular knowledge. The Vikings were definitely in Canada - the settlements have been confirmed by archeological data. Basque fisherman were fishing off the coast of Canada for hundreds of years, but kept their fishing grounds a secret, not wanting to share their rich source of food.
Then there is the theory that the Chinese sailed a vast fleet around the world as proposed in the book "1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus" by Charles C. Mann.
Frankly, I think just about everybody but the European elite knew that there were these big continents across the Atlantic. European histories had to insist that one of theirs discovered those continents without any hints from other cultures - of course.
hunter
(38,313 posts)... and we've been doing it for thousands of years.
If someone came to an uninhabited place first and made it their home it's not a surprising when others show up later.
All the nonsense starts if you believe some god created the world six thousand years ago and your people were somehow chosen by him to spread the word.
Meanwhile, people in the "discovered" lands, who are a mix of all the people who came before them, have all seen strangers before and know that some of them are trouble.
These white Christian latecomers, utterly ignorant about their own origins and convinced of their superiority, were an exceptional sort of trouble.
Most "first" contacts throughout history were unremarkable. The explorers or traders from distant lands move on, or else they stay, maybe becoming someone's immigrant grandparent.
It's utterly absurd to deny there were many "discoveries" of America before Columbus. For example, the same people who populated the Pacific Islands undoubtedly landed on the American coasts too, as did the Africans.
That the later white European Christians chose to suppress any histories that conflicted with their own narrow religious views and cultural beliefs is on them.