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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums1/6er Caldwell: "Yeah but what are we supposed to do first? Tell me who to shoot first"
Mehta is reviewing the evidence from the bench.
It is a Facebook comment on a public post by individual named John McGraw. AUSA Jeffrey Nestler Caldwell made a statement around this post that inferred the OKers would not be peaceful going forward (assuming post election)
Mehta has agreed to admit this evidence because its not predjucial, but probative
"I know what a meme is," Judge Mehta says when def atty Geyer (for Harrelson) raises an objection to an image that will be admitted. Geyer essentially arguing its not clear if comments were rhetorical or not
Mehta says, (lightly paraphrasing): that's sorta the main dispute here
The prosecution wants to admit Caldwell's reply to a Trump retweet appearing on FB and an ongoing convo about "fighting for Trump"
Caldwell: "Yeah but what are we supposed to do first? Tell me who to shoot first"
Def. says its not a direct response
Nestler says it shows intent
In msg from Caldwell to Grimes on FB sent on 11/14 Caldwell writes:
"If we don't start mowing down masses of these shitballs they will come for all of us. Its kill or be killed I am afraid. ...I kinda hope there is some shit tomorrow in some ways just so we can get on with it."
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Aristus
(66,380 posts)Yeah, that's something harmless tourists do in the course of a routine tour of the Capitol...
agingdem
(7,850 posts)the Proud Boys/Oath Keepers (weekend warriors), were stockpiling assault weapons/handguns/body armor in an anticipation of an apocalypse and a "legitimate" excuse to gather, maim, and kill "the other" ...and Trump gave them one...
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)While not every crazy thing they've ever said is admissible, these statements were made right around the relevant time and state of mind is in play.
keithbvadu2
(36,816 posts)Who else would there be?
skydive forever
(445 posts)And anybody else that leans even a little bit liberal. Never forget that. That is what/who we are dealing with now. Truly sad.
Half-step
(79 posts)Guilty. Moving on...
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Shit like this.
It's the exclusive domain of maga maniacs. Case closed.