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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:12 AM Oct 2022

1/6er Caldwell: "Yeah but what are we supposed to do first? Tell me who to shoot first"

Mehta is reviewing the evidence from the bench.
It is a Facebook comment on a public post by individual named John McGraw. AUSA Jeffrey Nestler Caldwell made a statement around this post that inferred the OKers would not be peaceful going forward (assuming post election)

Mehta has agreed to admit this evidence because its not predjucial, but probative

"I know what a meme is," Judge Mehta says when def atty Geyer (for Harrelson) raises an objection to an image that will be admitted. Geyer essentially arguing its not clear if comments were rhetorical or not
Mehta says, (lightly paraphrasing): that's sorta the main dispute here

The prosecution wants to admit Caldwell's reply to a Trump retweet appearing on FB and an ongoing convo about "fighting for Trump"

Caldwell: "Yeah but what are we supposed to do first? Tell me who to shoot first"

Def. says its not a direct response
Nestler says it shows intent

In msg from Caldwell to Grimes on FB sent on 11/14 Caldwell writes:
"If we don't start mowing down masses of these shitballs they will come for all of us. Its kill or be killed I am afraid. ...I kinda hope there is some shit tomorrow in some ways just so we can get on with it."



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1/6er Caldwell: "Yeah but what are we supposed to do first? Tell me who to shoot first" (Original Post) kpete Oct 2022 OP
"Mowing down masses of these shitballs." Aristus Oct 2022 #1
Trump's brain-dead hate-fueled militia, agingdem Oct 2022 #4
Hope you enjoy prison shithead. nt MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2022 #2
Not a difficult call on that one Effete Snob Oct 2022 #3
The legislators, their staff, and the police. keithbvadu2 Oct 2022 #5
Who else? You and me skydive forever Oct 2022 #6
Indeed, let's get on with it. Half-step Oct 2022 #7
Show me where "the unhinged violent leftists" ever threatened The_Casual_Observer Oct 2022 #8

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
1. "Mowing down masses of these shitballs."
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:28 AM
Oct 2022

Yeah, that's something harmless tourists do in the course of a routine tour of the Capitol...

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
4. Trump's brain-dead hate-fueled militia,
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:32 PM
Oct 2022

the Proud Boys/Oath Keepers (weekend warriors), were stockpiling assault weapons/handguns/body armor in an anticipation of an apocalypse and a "legitimate" excuse to gather, maim, and kill "the other" ...and Trump gave them one...

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
3. Not a difficult call on that one
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:09 PM
Oct 2022

While not every crazy thing they've ever said is admissible, these statements were made right around the relevant time and state of mind is in play.

skydive forever

(445 posts)
6. Who else? You and me
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:50 PM
Oct 2022

And anybody else that leans even a little bit liberal. Never forget that. That is what/who we are dealing with now. Truly sad.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
8. Show me where "the unhinged violent leftists" ever threatened
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:59 PM
Oct 2022

Shit like this.

It's the exclusive domain of maga maniacs. Case closed.

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