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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:01 PM Oct 2022

The most embarrassing part of Trump's response to the House subpoena



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Trump finally responded to the House committee subpoena this morning. It was exactly what you'd expect, but one section of it stood out as both exceptionally revealing and exceptionally embarrassing.

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Analysis | The most embarrassing part of Trump’s response to the House subpoena
A lengthy document filled with the standard diatribes reaches a new level with his inclusion of ludicrous "fraud evidence."
9:45 AM · Oct 14, 2022


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/14/trump-jan-6-subpoena-response/

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Donald Trump’s response to the imminent subpoena from the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot was exactly what you would have expected.
The word “hoax” appears twice, as does “radical left.” (Or, actually, “Radical Left,” employing Trump’s idiosyncratic capitalization standards.) “Russia” is included four times. “Unselect” — Trump’s weak attempt to rebrand the committee — three times. “Illegal” five times.

But the champion is “fraud,” which appears 10 times. This is Trump’s trump card: that the evidence of fraud is so obvious and widespread that it, not the violent assault on the Capitol, should have been the focus of investigation.

“You have not gone after the people that created the Fraud, but rather great American Patriots who questioned it, as is their Constitutional right,” the letter reads. “These people have had their lives ruined as your Committee sits back and basks in the glow” — so mixed a metaphor that it actually causes you to stop and consider it. What, exactly, is glowing?

What hinders Trump’s response, of course, is that there was no rampant fraud in the 2020 election. This is by now so concretely established — following nearly two years of desperate digging and countless tennis matches of debunking and rebunking — that it barely merits lengthy examination. If you’re curious, here’s my standing summary of the lack of evidence of fraud. If, by now, you refuse to accept that reality, that’s a function of your own choices, not of reality itself.

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The most embarrassing part of Trump's response to the House subpoena (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2022 OP
Radical Left always makes me roll my eyes, if only n/t hibbing Oct 2022 #1
Makes me wish Diego Rivera and friends were alive. catrose Oct 2022 #2
I'm so sick of hearing the term "Radical Left". Paper Roses Oct 2022 #5
We're "radical" because we.... SergeStorms Oct 2022 #11
Because we want to make our nation better from the roots up. soldierant Oct 2022 #38
⬆️ mahina Oct 2022 #43
The use of Radical Left began in Bush Jr's reign. wnylib Oct 2022 #13
"Radical Left" is projection, designed to divert attention from how radical the Right has become...n Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #15
THIS WestMichRad Oct 2022 #29
SPOT ON n/t WyLoochka Oct 2022 #37
Oh, there's a radical left out there Warpy Oct 2022 #23
That is a very astute observation, muchos thank you. jaxexpat Oct 2022 #47
Radical Left believes in income redistribution and that scares the people who have the money. jalan48 Oct 2022 #34
And that's the whole basis of Conservatism. dchill Oct 2022 #40
The Democratic Party has moved so far to the right that Eisenhower would be a Democrat today. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #44
Does any of his blather matter in a legal sense? NullTuples Oct 2022 #3
No, not at all. But he doesn't care about legalities wnylib Oct 2022 #18
He's playing to a crowd of total morons Warpy Oct 2022 #24
It might possibly if he could be induced to say it under oath. soldierant Oct 2022 #39
Seems like with the right goading or flattering he just might open up... NullTuples Oct 2022 #41
Rebunked? lame54 Oct 2022 #4
Yeah, rebunked. Like when the camp counselor moves you to a different bunk due to fighting. machoneman Oct 2022 #8
I thought it was a nice coinage (new to me) after "debunked". Playing with language. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2022 #14
Embarrassing, indeed. But I thought even more embarrassing was . . . euphorb Oct 2022 #6
He wants to convey to the public that he's still powerful and relevant. n/t Eyeball_Kid Oct 2022 #9
I can't fathom his intense concern with crowd size. Easy answer? His tiny penis. machoneman Oct 2022 #10
He obviously has a "size" fixation. SergeStorms Oct 2022 #12
I've always suspected that. calimary Oct 2022 #22
I agree, these are not words of a sane man. newdayneeded Oct 2022 #21
the response is pandering to MAGAts Skittles Oct 2022 #7
Trump's constant bullshit, election fraud lies and gaslighting induce a state of helplessness. sop Oct 2022 #16
14 page response that never mentioned... Septua Oct 2022 #17
You know who didn't have to pay $25 million to get out of a lawsuit for fraud? gratuitous Oct 2022 #19
He has convinced himself and millions of others. WTFF twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #20
The traitor's letter: dalton99a Oct 2022 #25
Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**. niyad Oct 2022 #26
If only . . . Abigail_Adams Oct 2022 #48
SHUTheFUCKUP you Stupid Russian Cha Oct 2022 #27
Let's have Nancy go to town on this squealing swine Blue Owl Oct 2022 #33
lol.. Nancy will Go Down in History Cha Oct 2022 #36
😂 TY! 👍 electric_blue68 Oct 2022 #50
I think the most embarrassing part piddyprints Oct 2022 #28
most embarrassing IMO is anyone who takes him seriously in any way LymphocyteLover Oct 2022 #30
the bloated tick and his extremists are going to find out what we think of his lies very soon. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #31
Donald tRump: The National Embarrassment Blue Owl Oct 2022 #32
You beat me to it. debm55 Oct 2022 #35
Exposed as a LIAR, his response is to double down on the LIES Martin Eden Oct 2022 #42
The only fraud I saw was Donald Trump. Emile Oct 2022 #45
His Daddy was right. dupagelib Oct 2022 #46
This ridiculous letter only proves that Trump formulated a motive for his crimes Ohioboy Oct 2022 #49

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
5. I'm so sick of hearing the term "Radical Left".
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:58 PM
Oct 2022

How some supposedly intelligent people can follow this crook is beyond me. To label anyone who does not follow this moron as Radical is beyond my comprehension.
That includes my family in Florida who swear by every word from Fox News.

It also includes townspeople here who constantly disparage any comments from those of us don't follow the R's BS. What I don't understand is why the Democrats in my town are quiet and the followers of the Repub's spew derogatory comments.

If I chime in, I'm chewed to bits by tRump followers. I've given up on any thoughts of a reply. I'm depressed enough without arguing with these idiots.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
11. We're "radical" because we....
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:25 PM
Oct 2022

believe everyone should be treated equally.

believe everyone should be treated fairly.

believe we shouldn't fowl our own nest.

Feel free to add your own. I have to answer the doorbell.

soldierant

(6,879 posts)
38. Because we want to make our nation better from the roots up.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:44 PM
Oct 2022

(Not from the top down0

("radic'" means root.)

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
13. The use of Radical Left began in Bush Jr's reign.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:31 PM
Oct 2022

I was on a Yahoo political message board for several years after the SC appointment of Bush as president. There was a spectrum of political views on that board, from far right Bush supporters to moderates and liberals.

The Bush supporters called everyone leftist radicals and communists if they were to the left of Bush, even the moderate conservatives.

Wounded Bear

(58,659 posts)
15. "Radical Left" is projection, designed to divert attention from how radical the Right has become...n
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:38 PM
Oct 2022

Warpy

(111,264 posts)
23. Oh, there's a radical left out there
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 03:10 PM
Oct 2022

The problem is that they're more intelligent than the reactionary far right and realize they'd most likely make at least a big a botch of things as other radical movements have in the past.

There is nothing like self reflection to destroy ambition.

jaxexpat

(6,831 posts)
47. That is a very astute observation, muchos thank you.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 09:17 AM
Oct 2022

I had nearly resigned myself to a day of contemplative morosity when you came along. I especially like the pentameter of your "a big a botch of" phrase. Chef Boiardi lives on in poetic political commentary.

Lonestarblue

(9,994 posts)
44. The Democratic Party has moved so far to the right that Eisenhower would be a Democrat today.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 07:59 AM
Oct 2022

Even our far left isn’t very radical. What is radical about wanting all US citizens to have access to affordable healthcare or to make a living wage? That’s what Republicans call radical these days when every other developed nation without our resources and wealth already provide those things without question.

The Republican Party has moved so far to the right that they have no real policies for actual governing left. Their only policy is to always make the lives of very rich people better—cut their taxes, cut all business regulations, let the wealthy make all governing decisions. They’re more libertarian today traditional Republican, except for religion. On that, they’re more 1500s era superstitions and fear of witches. Today’s “witches” are women who want to make their own decisions and LGBTQ who dare to exist. They’d like to burn them all at the stake.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
18. No, not at all. But he doesn't care about legalities
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:43 PM
Oct 2022

He just wants to keep his followers believing his lies so that they will support his next coup attempt.

Warpy

(111,264 posts)
24. He's playing to a crowd of total morons
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 03:12 PM
Oct 2022

It doesn't have to make sense. They just have to hear occasional buzzwords, slogans and catch phrases ("radical left&quot and they think they agree with him because they recognize a few familiar terms in the rest of the word salad.

soldierant

(6,879 posts)
39. It might possibly if he could be induced to say it under oath.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:47 PM
Oct 2022

But, even as mouthy as he is, that seems unlikely.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
41. Seems like with the right goading or flattering he just might open up...
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 01:25 AM
Oct 2022

I predict if he goes on for more than a few sentences, he'll ramble and lose the plot within the first five minutes.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
8. Yeah, rebunked. Like when the camp counselor moves you to a different bunk due to fighting.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:08 PM
Oct 2022

Hah, LOL and I just had to do it!

euphorb

(279 posts)
6. Embarrassing, indeed. But I thought even more embarrassing was . . .
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:03 PM
Oct 2022

. . . his childish complaint that the Committee failed to acknowledge the huge size of the crowd at the ellipse rally. He even attached several photos to the letter showing the crowd size. He feels massively slighted that the size of the crowd was ignored by the Committee. I can't fathom his intense concern with crowd size.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
12. He obviously has a "size" fixation.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:30 PM
Oct 2022

Thinking with his tiny brain, flailing his tiny hands in the air.......you can imagine the rest. 😉

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
21. I agree, these are not words of a sane man.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:51 PM
Oct 2022

This is Ed Gein, not being mad about being found guilty, but that the judge didn't acknowledge the quality and time put into the lamp shades.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
7. the response is pandering to MAGAts
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:05 PM
Oct 2022

as usual, it sounds like desperate gibberish to anyone with critical thinking skills

sop

(10,187 posts)
16. Trump's constant bullshit, election fraud lies and gaslighting induce a state of helplessness.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:43 PM
Oct 2022

Like a deranged parrot, he repeats the same nonsense over and over again; there's little anyone can say or do to make Trump acknowledge reality. Maybe he'll be able to convince fellow inmates of his innocence?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. You know who didn't have to pay $25 million to get out of a lawsuit for fraud?
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:45 PM
Oct 2022

Every member of the January 6 committee.

Abigail_Adams

(304 posts)
48. If only . . .
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 09:22 AM
Oct 2022

I don't have the stomach to read the whole thing but read that he said he would only testify if it was on live TV. As if he sets the conditions of giving testimony. He just wants to grandstand even more to his followers.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
27. SHUTheFUCKUP you Stupid Russian
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 03:39 PM
Oct 2022

Domestic Terrorist TRAITOR.

Haha you got a Subpoena & your big Punchable face ain't gonna get you out of it.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
36. lol.. Nancy will Go Down in History
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 10:27 PM
Oct 2022

& Herstory as the one who said it OUTLOUD & Didn't care who Heard her.



Le Punch!

I bet she's a World HEROINE!

piddyprints

(14,643 posts)
28. I think the most embarrassing part
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 03:43 PM
Oct 2022

Is that he’s still breathing. Can you imagine living your life as such a pitiful piece to trash?

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
31. the bloated tick and his extremists are going to find out what we think of his lies very soon.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:02 PM
Oct 2022

dump is a loser, and he's going to lose more.

debm55

(25,214 posts)
35. You beat me to it.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 10:15 PM
Oct 2022

And we are to supposed to believe he wrote a 14 page response? Was it in crayon or Sharpie?

Martin Eden

(12,868 posts)
42. Exposed as a LIAR, his response is to double down on the LIES
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 04:54 AM
Oct 2022

To date, he has spewed LIE after LIE after LIE with impunity.

But the Jan 6 Committee has exposed not only his LIES, but the HIGH CRIMES this would be dictator committed based on his repeated LIES about the non-existent election fraud.

Doubling down on the LIES is fodder fir his base, but it is WORTHLESS as a LEGAL DEFENSE against the indictments that are coming.

If he LIES UNDER OATH, perjury will be added to the list.

dupagelib

(144 posts)
46. His Daddy was right.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 09:03 AM
Oct 2022

Mary Trump remembers tfg being constantly called a loser by his father. Give Dad credit, he was right.

Ohioboy

(3,243 posts)
49. This ridiculous letter only proves that Trump formulated a motive for his crimes
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 09:48 AM
Oct 2022

Notice how he never disputes what he did, but explains why he did it. All he does is reinforce the motive.

Sorry, but staging a coup is still against the law, no matter how you think you might be justified. This letter is that of a criminal telling us why he did what he did.

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