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Trump finally responded to the House committee subpoena this morning. It was exactly what you'd expect, but one section of it stood out as both exceptionally revealing and exceptionally embarrassing.
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Analysis | The most embarrassing part of Trumps response to the House subpoena
A lengthy document filled with the standard diatribes reaches a new level with his inclusion of ludicrous "fraud evidence."
9:45 AM · Oct 14, 2022
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/14/trump-jan-6-subpoena-response/
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https://archive.ph/wZQld
Donald Trumps response to the imminent subpoena from the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot was exactly what you would have expected.
The word hoax appears twice, as does radical left. (Or, actually, Radical Left, employing Trumps idiosyncratic capitalization standards.) Russia is included four times. Unselect Trumps weak attempt to rebrand the committee three times. Illegal five times.
But the champion is fraud, which appears 10 times. This is Trumps trump card: that the evidence of fraud is so obvious and widespread that it, not the violent assault on the Capitol, should have been the focus of investigation.
You have not gone after the people that created the Fraud, but rather great American Patriots who questioned it, as is their Constitutional right, the letter reads. These people have had their lives ruined as your Committee sits back and basks in the glow so mixed a metaphor that it actually causes you to stop and consider it. What, exactly, is glowing?
What hinders Trumps response, of course, is that there was no rampant fraud in the 2020 election. This is by now so concretely established following nearly two years of desperate digging and countless tennis matches of debunking and rebunking that it barely merits lengthy examination. If youre curious, heres my standing summary of the lack of evidence of fraud. If, by now, you refuse to accept that reality, thats a function of your own choices, not of reality itself.
*snip*
hibbing
(10,098 posts)catrose
(5,067 posts)Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)How some supposedly intelligent people can follow this crook is beyond me. To label anyone who does not follow this moron as Radical is beyond my comprehension.
That includes my family in Florida who swear by every word from Fox News.
It also includes townspeople here who constantly disparage any comments from those of us don't follow the R's BS. What I don't understand is why the Democrats in my town are quiet and the followers of the Repub's spew derogatory comments.
If I chime in, I'm chewed to bits by tRump followers. I've given up on any thoughts of a reply. I'm depressed enough without arguing with these idiots.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)believe everyone should be treated equally.
believe everyone should be treated fairly.
believe we shouldn't fowl our own nest.
Feel free to add your own. I have to answer the doorbell.
soldierant
(6,879 posts)(Not from the top down0
("radic'" means root.)
✅♥️🌸
wnylib
(21,466 posts)I was on a Yahoo political message board for several years after the SC appointment of Bush as president. There was a spectrum of political views on that board, from far right Bush supporters to moderates and liberals.
The Bush supporters called everyone leftist radicals and communists if they were to the left of Bush, even the moderate conservatives.
Wounded Bear
(58,659 posts)WestMichRad
(1,323 posts)exactly correct!
WyLoochka
(1,629 posts)Warpy
(111,264 posts)The problem is that they're more intelligent than the reactionary far right and realize they'd most likely make at least a big a botch of things as other radical movements have in the past.
There is nothing like self reflection to destroy ambition.
jaxexpat
(6,831 posts)I had nearly resigned myself to a day of contemplative morosity when you came along. I especially like the pentameter of your "a big a botch of" phrase. Chef Boiardi lives on in poetic political commentary.
jalan48
(13,867 posts)dchill
(38,497 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,994 posts)Even our far left isnt very radical. What is radical about wanting all US citizens to have access to affordable healthcare or to make a living wage? Thats what Republicans call radical these days when every other developed nation without our resources and wealth already provide those things without question.
The Republican Party has moved so far to the right that they have no real policies for actual governing left. Their only policy is to always make the lives of very rich people bettercut their taxes, cut all business regulations, let the wealthy make all governing decisions. Theyre more libertarian today traditional Republican, except for religion. On that, theyre more 1500s era superstitions and fear of witches. Todays witches are women who want to make their own decisions and LGBTQ who dare to exist. Theyd like to burn them all at the stake.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)wnylib
(21,466 posts)He just wants to keep his followers believing his lies so that they will support his next coup attempt.
Warpy
(111,264 posts)It doesn't have to make sense. They just have to hear occasional buzzwords, slogans and catch phrases ("radical left" and they think they agree with him because they recognize a few familiar terms in the rest of the word salad.
soldierant
(6,879 posts)But, even as mouthy as he is, that seems unlikely.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)I predict if he goes on for more than a few sentences, he'll ramble and lose the plot within the first five minutes.
lame54
(35,290 posts)machoneman
(4,007 posts)Hah, LOL and I just had to do it!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)euphorb
(279 posts). . . his childish complaint that the Committee failed to acknowledge the huge size of the crowd at the ellipse rally. He even attached several photos to the letter showing the crowd size. He feels massively slighted that the size of the crowd was ignored by the Committee. I can't fathom his intense concern with crowd size.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)machoneman
(4,007 posts)SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)Thinking with his tiny brain, flailing his tiny hands in the air.......you can imagine the rest. 😉
calimary
(81,267 posts)newdayneeded
(1,955 posts)This is Ed Gein, not being mad about being found guilty, but that the judge didn't acknowledge the quality and time put into the lamp shades.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)as usual, it sounds like desperate gibberish to anyone with critical thinking skills
sop
(10,187 posts)Like a deranged parrot, he repeats the same nonsense over and over again; there's little anyone can say or do to make Trump acknowledge reality. Maybe he'll be able to convince fellow inmates of his innocence?
Septua
(2,256 posts)..the objective of the Committee's investigation.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Every member of the January 6 committee.
twodogsbarking
(9,752 posts)dalton99a
(81,510 posts)niyad
(113,315 posts)Abigail_Adams
(304 posts)I don't have the stomach to read the whole thing but read that he said he would only testify if it was on live TV. As if he sets the conditions of giving testimony. He just wants to grandstand even more to his followers.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Domestic Terrorist TRAITOR.
Haha you got a Subpoena & your big Punchable face ain't gonna get you out of it.
Blue Owl
(50,383 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)& Herstory as the one who said it OUTLOUD & Didn't care who Heard her.
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Le Punch!
I bet she's a World HEROINE!
electric_blue68
(14,903 posts)piddyprints
(14,643 posts)Is that hes still breathing. Can you imagine living your life as such a pitiful piece to trash?
LymphocyteLover
(5,644 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)dump is a loser, and he's going to lose more.
Blue Owl
(50,383 posts)debm55
(25,214 posts)And we are to supposed to believe he wrote a 14 page response? Was it in crayon or Sharpie?
Martin Eden
(12,868 posts)To date, he has spewed LIE after LIE after LIE with impunity.
But the Jan 6 Committee has exposed not only his LIES, but the HIGH CRIMES this would be dictator committed based on his repeated LIES about the non-existent election fraud.
Doubling down on the LIES is fodder fir his base, but it is WORTHLESS as a LEGAL DEFENSE against the indictments that are coming.
If he LIES UNDER OATH, perjury will be added to the list.
Emile
(22,766 posts)dupagelib
(144 posts)Mary Trump remembers tfg being constantly called a loser by his father. Give Dad credit, he was right.
Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)Notice how he never disputes what he did, but explains why he did it. All he does is reinforce the motive.
Sorry, but staging a coup is still against the law, no matter how you think you might be justified. This letter is that of a criminal telling us why he did what he did.