Anyone noticed people now equating support for Ukraine with support for nuclear war?

[LonePirate]

I’ve seen a few scattered comments in various places online but I have now seen a similar sentiment in a clip of AOC’s recent town hall where one of the attendees accused her of supporting nuclear war, presumably because of her support for Ukraine.

This belief seems to be coming from those on the right although a few anti-war leftists may be making them as well.

Has anyone else noticed or seen this? I’m guessing Russian propaganda is largely promoting and pushing this equivocation in order to justify the invasion in Ukraine. Evidently supporting Ukraine leaves Russia with no choice but to use nuclear weapons. They seemingly believe allowing Russia to take over Ukraine is the price we must pay in order to avoid nuclear war. This is insane in addition to displaying total ignorance of world history, especially European history from the past few centuries.

[Lovie777]

1. Nothing new . ..

[brush]

2. No. There may be a few nuts out there who support...

nuclear war but conflating that with support for Ukraine is scant if at all.

[karynnj]

3. I would not generalize that AOC incident

From some of the articles, he was a Larouche adherent. They have long been at the extreme where the far right and far left converge.

On DU, to me, it seems there is far less support for that position than in 2014 to 2016 where there were many people believing Russia on both Ukraine and even more so on Syria, where they agreed with even the idea that neither Syria or Russia were quilty of the massive poison gas attacks that came from planes. A few even suggesting it was a US false flag.

Many of these people left DU, after HRC officially became the nominee. I think I can say they were not missed. Some were likely Russian as their wording and references seemed strange for an American.

[maxsolomon]

8. That was my 1st guess: Larouchies.

It's amazing that movement, with its far-fetched conspiracy-mongering bizarro-world inverted politics, has maintained itself after Larouche's death, but it was ONLY 3 1/2 YEARS AGO. 97 fucking years old.

[Salviati]

4. A terrible argument.

It's like saying that people who want to hold trump accountable are in support of a civil war.

If that's the best argument they can make for appeasement, then they're admiting that they don't have an arguement.

It's the logic of an abuser: "look what you made me do!"

[PortTack]

5. No

[Ray Bruns]

6. I have noticed it on the yahoo comments section. Obviously Russian bots because their American are

A little off. As soon as you make a positive comment supporting Ukraine they jump in about nuclear war. I just ask them ho the weather is in Moscow and ignore them

[Jirel]

7. The "anti-war left" has its cadre of crackpots.

I know a number of them. The "supporting nuclear war" is a newer claim, I suspect out of desperation because they can't defend their love of Russia any other way. I always give them grief that they are not really left-wing at all, not only because of their idiotic stance on Ukraine (they are especially upset because Putin was giving a voice to some of their favorite pundits, so they GOTTA love Russia), but because they're out of touch with reality on a number of other things. These include conspiracy theories (9/11 was an inside job!), hating NATO and "the deep state" (often along with conspiracy theories about it no less wild than the right wing spreads about NATO, George Soros, the UN, etc.), and even insisting that "Trump isn't the problem" because everyone knows that the GOP and the DEMs are really all the same.

When you scratch the beliefs of some of them hard enough, they really track as trashy republicans but with better anti-corporate, pro-immigration, and economic justice politics.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. It's a RW equation pushed by RuZZia trolls on Con(ned) forums, for weeks. . . . nt

[sarisataka]

10. I have seen the inverse

that if you are not willing to go nuclear you are not fully supportive of Ukraine.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. Yep yep.

[mcar]

12. I have. I believe the RW talking points have been issued

and yes, some on the far left are picking them up too. The other one I'm suddenly seeing in my RW newspaper is complaining about the money sent to Ukraine. It started a few weeks ago, just when Ukraine started making headway.

[sanatanadharma]

13. I suppose the opposite is support of nuclear blackmail

[48656c6c6f20]

14. You haven't visited DU in months?

There are daily OH NOES! NUKES! Posts.
Neville Chamberlain is a regular poster here.

[womanofthehills]

15. Biden warns risk of nuclear 'Armageddon' is highest since Cuban Missile Crisis

“President Joe Biden said Thursday the risk of nuclear "Armageddon" is the highest it has been for 60 years after Russian President Vladimir Putin renewed his threats as his military retreats in Ukraine.

In remarks at a reception for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Biden said it was the first time since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis that there has been a "direct threat" of nuclear weapons’ being used, "if, in fact, things continue down the path they are going.”

“We have not faced the prospect of Armageddon since Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis,” he said, offering his bluntest comments about the use of nuclear weapons since Russia invaded Ukraine in February. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-warns-risk-nuclear-armageddon-highest-cuban-missile-crisis-rcna51146