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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho removed the panic buttons from the Democratic congressional offices before the coup attempt?
When did they do it?
FoxNewsSucks
(10,433 posts)That's one thing I haven't heard mentioned. I hope someone is jailed for that.
Irish_Dem
(47,108 posts)Even those who had worked there for years did not know they existed.
(As I recall, Nancy Pelosi's daughter talked about this.)
Who gave the "tours" of the building the day before?
Who gave out detailed maps to the insurrectionists?
Who funded the whole operation?
What about the mysterious pipe bomber?
The J6 only went after Trump it looks like.
Everyone else is getting a pass.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Schmice3
(294 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,108 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)rambler_american
(789 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,343 posts)... I think I can recognize the difference between the coils of a noose and some rope glued and wound around a beer can. That was no noose.
But, yes, someone had to gather the stuff to craft the noosey-looking thing, so it was planned.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Being so near the Capitol building, surely there was (or should have been!) security cameras in place.
I wish reporters would do their jobs. I am increasingly discontent with the lack of info in news stories.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(4,369 posts)but I suppose they could have killed someone with it, if they tried hard enough...
MagickMuffin
(15,943 posts)I believe there might be others, but Ive seen the Loudermilk tapes. There was more than one tour.
Irish_Dem
(47,108 posts)Celerity
(43,389 posts)https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/the-senates-biggest-secret-lush-hideaways-for-lawmakers/1868321/
Published January 15, 2010 Updated on January 15, 2010 at 10:44 am
The perks of Senate membership just got sweeter. For the first time, all 100 members of the chamber will have their own cloistered hideaways in the U.S. Capitol, traditionally a coveted mark of seniority and clout that lowly freshmen could only dream about. This year, even junior senators will get their own private, unmarked offices that are a convenient few steps from the Senate chamber.
The addition of a dozen or so newly renovated rooms in the bowels of the Capitol represents a cultural shift in the custom-bound institution, made possible by moving a Capitol Police facility from the building's basement into the new, $621 million Capitol Visitor Center.
While both parties make claims and counterclaims about openness in government, some things never change. The first rule of Senate hideaways: Only senators talk about them. And then, selectively and only about their own. The only ways to know who occupies which office are to be invited in, witness a senator entering or exiting, or see a home-state newspaper lying outside the door in the morning. The hush-hush tradition creates sanctuaries for legislative work and meetings, as well as less official business -- maybe even a nap.
Hideaways occupy ancient nooks on all four floors of the historic building and are institutions within an institution and one of the last vestiges of nonpartisanship in an increasingly divided chamber. The most senior senators get first dibs on the best quarters, regardless of party. They bear room numbers but no names. Some are hidden in plain sight, along corridors used by thousands of unknowing tourists. The portals to others hide beyond massive statues. Still others are crammed in the spaces around rotundas, or at the ends of hallways with multiple sets of stairs. Many can't be found without a guide.
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A peek inside the Senate's secret offices (2014, with video)
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/11/21/secret-office-hideaway-congress-portman-brown/70014810/
Then-senator Joe Biden gives an interview in his hideaway office at the Capitol. SUCHAT PEDERSON, THE NEWS JOURNAL
WASHINGTON Welcome to the real "undisclosed locations" of Washington. Behind these doors are coveted, secret offices tucked in the nooks and crannies of the U.S. Capitol. These "hideaways" are the hottest political real estate in Congress unmarked offices where lawmakers can sneak away from nosy reporters, insistent aides and pleading lobbyists.
Every member of Congress has a regular office in one of the House or Senate buildings near the Capitol. But the hideaways are a second office often just steps away from the Senate floor. (A few House members also have hideaways, but mostly they are reserved for members of the upper chamber.)
Some are more luxurious than others. They are doled out according to seniority, with veteran lawmakers snagging plush space with sweeping views of the National Mall and newbies getting windowless basement digs. "It's all done by secret handshake. All of a sudden you're told you've got a hideaway and here are the keys," says Jim Manley, a former top aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.
Manley said the offices are used for a little bit of everything a respite from the day's political buzz, a quiet place to dig into a thick briefing book, or a spot to negotiate a tough agreement. "Not only deal-making is done there, but also probably a cocktail or two as well," Manley said.
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Irish_Dem
(47,108 posts)paleotn
(17,920 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,332 posts)Dont exist
Irish_Dem
(47,108 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,332 posts)If they have their own wiki page and hundreds of articles about then, they really are not super secret.
multigraincracker
(32,685 posts)a good deal of forethought.
Boomerproud
(7,954 posts)Been angry and staying that way. Drip. Drip. Drip.
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Scrivener7
(50,950 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)we were talking about Hunter Biden or dems.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,246 posts)beaglelover
(3,486 posts)panic button under your desk and how to operate it. So, inevitably, someone will play with it and accidentally trigger it during a boring conference call and then get a very quick visit to their desk by the building security. LOL!
Quakerfriend
(5,450 posts)ever know.
However, this one would seem to be an easy one to solve.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)Quakerfriend
(5,450 posts)we still dont know!
And, I would think that we could track the pipe bomber along their entire route on video, as well.
I fantasize that Garland is going to swoop in and arrest all those in office who were involved!
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)There is no doubt they know who all of these people are. WHY are they getting a pass for trying overthrow the government.
Fuck the patriarch.
OMGWTF
(3,957 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,054 posts)Most are at least 4D, many 5D, all recorded at double frame rate, so the normal playback is 1/2 speed.
According to one article, there is literally no spot not on camera with the vast majority of the area on at least 2 camera views.
I cannot believe they don't have this information.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)that day. One police sargent or whatever was fired, but this required all kinds of organization. Where were guards when they were first flying through the main hall?? I was at home screaming at the tv to call the guards.
Ultimately, someone with authority needs to go down with the deaths that occurred.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)and that is that. Then we fight to stop them from breaching the debt or placate them by letting them chip away at SS, Medicare, and Medicaid...vote like your life depends on it because it does.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,332 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,332 posts)The same people who will start removing them this November after the elections. There will be close to 300 offices that move with the election of a new congress.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I've not heard one word about this!
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)I just don't get it. Is there a coverup of Nixonian proportions?
spanone
(135,838 posts)liberalla
(9,249 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,431 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)flying_wahini
(6,600 posts)WarGamer
(12,445 posts)To start, it was ONE office with missing buttons. Rep Pressley.
And from Snopes:
That might have resulted in the removal of the duress buttons, the aide says.
Still, the aide cautioned that an internal Capitol Police investigation into the matter remains ongoing.
hardluck
(639 posts)WarGamer
(12,445 posts)dembotoz
(16,806 posts)probably an excel spreadsheet that gets emailed more often than the menu of the pizza place that offers free garlic bread
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)WarGamer
(12,445 posts)Patton French
(757 posts)PelisoMyLove
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Why removing the panic button ?
On the same topic of politics, law and democracy, you can also see https://www.legislationlab.org
spooky3
(34,456 posts)Hekate
(90,704 posts)I worked for 2 major bureaucracies in my county: the University of California Santa Barbara, and the County of Santa Barbara. They run on standardized forms via the people who know who those forms should go to.
The initial investigation could start with clerks and administrative assistants, because they are the people through whose hands the paper flows. The FBI needs to do this someone knows.