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Who removed the panic buttons from the Democratic congressional offices before the coup attempt? (Original Post) onecaliberal Oct 2022 OP
I'd still like to know FoxNewsSucks Oct 2022 #1
They also knew the location of super secret offices in the Capitol Building. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #2
Who built the gallows? This was outdoors & took time, so someone knows! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #21
Go to the head of the class Schmice3 Oct 2022 #24
... SheltieLover Oct 2022 #37
Yep, good catch on this one. No one ever mentions it! Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #30
They sure don't! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #36
I was just about to ask. n/t rambler_american Oct 2022 #41
Probably quickly slapped together with a couple of pallets. As a former Boy Scout, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2022 #48
And took time to unload & build!. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #49
But but but inflation... 🤦🏼‍♀️ onecaliberal Oct 2022 #53
It doesn't take a rocket sciengist to gather info & present it SheltieLover Oct 2022 #55
That was not a real gallows, it was a prop--- DemocraticPatriot Oct 2022 #60
Loudermilk on CCTV giving tours on the 5th MagickMuffin Oct 2022 #27
Yes. No one is going after all the other GOP traitors. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #31
Senate's Biggest Secret: Lush Hideaways for Lawmakers (2010) Celerity Oct 2022 #32
I wonder what they do in these secret rooms. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #33
So many questions. So few answers. paleotn Oct 2022 #34
Super Secret Offices in the Capitol bottomofthehill Oct 2022 #42
FYI. Information about the secret offices. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #44
My point exactly bottomofthehill Oct 2022 #54
Good catch. That'd take multigraincracker Oct 2022 #3
Too many unanswered questions. Boomerproud Oct 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Boomerproud Oct 2022 #5
If only we had an agency whose job it was to find such things out. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #6
I know right, it would be awesome to have an agency like that. I'd bet one would spring to life if onecaliberal Oct 2022 #8
Important question. Was it someone in Loudermilk's "tour"? nt AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2022 #7
We have panic buttons where I work. But when you start no one bothers to tell you that you have a beaglelover Oct 2022 #9
Soooo many crimes. I'm not sure we'll Quakerfriend Oct 2022 #10
They have footage. There are cameras everywhere. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #11
Yes, and that's why I can't understand why Quakerfriend Oct 2022 #12
I would love to wake up one morning to find they've all been arrested, but I doubt it very seriously onecaliberal Oct 2022 #15
Empty Greene is a prime suspect. OMGWTF Oct 2022 #19
I Read Several Hundred ProfessorGAC Oct 2022 #14
I have read that the cameras are very high end as well. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #39
I've been hesitant to bring it up on DU, but, there are lots of unanswered questions about security lindysalsagal Oct 2022 #13
No one is even asking. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #16
Maybe a decision since it's mid-terms? lindysalsagal Oct 2022 #22
Midterms should have zero to do with a fact finding mission to determine who did these things. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #38
Lots of things 'should' or shouldn't' but the fact is they do...if we lose the House it is game over Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #47
How does an investigation no one knows about affect an election? It doesn't onecaliberal Oct 2022 #51
The Chief of the USCP, the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms all lost their jobs over 1/6 bottomofthehill Oct 2022 #43
I am going to go with bottomofthehill Oct 2022 #17
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2022 #18
Who built the gallows? This was outdoors & took time, so someone knows! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #20
So many questions. So few answers. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2022 #23
Who planted the bombs....? spanone Oct 2022 #25
This is something I really want to find out! liberalla Oct 2022 #26
Imagine it the other way around. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2022 #28
We still need to get to the bottom of that. Absolutely awful. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2022 #29
And who left the bombs near the DNC? flying_wahini Oct 2022 #35
A few corrections... WarGamer Oct 2022 #40
Unfortunately, you're not getting much traction here. hardluck Oct 2022 #59
sometimes the meme is greater than the facts... WarGamer Oct 2022 #61
secret from whom can not believe a master list does not exist dembotoz Oct 2022 #45
I heard that Pences panic button was also removed. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #46
Where'd you hear that? The Google says just Pressley's office. WarGamer Oct 2022 #58
Definitely something that needs to be investigated. NT Patton French Oct 2022 #50
WHY? PelisoMyLove Oct 2022 #52
Welcome to DU! spooky3 Oct 2022 #56
Should be really easy to track thru the maintenance dept/facilities management/general services... Hekate Oct 2022 #57

Irish_Dem

(47,108 posts)
2. They also knew the location of super secret offices in the Capitol Building.
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 03:55 PM
Oct 2022

Even those who had worked there for years did not know they existed.
(As I recall, Nancy Pelosi's daughter talked about this.)

Who gave the "tours" of the building the day before?

Who gave out detailed maps to the insurrectionists?

Who funded the whole operation?

What about the mysterious pipe bomber?

The J6 only went after Trump it looks like.
Everyone else is getting a pass.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,343 posts)
48. Probably quickly slapped together with a couple of pallets. As a former Boy Scout, ...
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 09:48 AM
Oct 2022

... I think I can recognize the difference between the coils of a noose and some rope glued and wound around a beer can. That was no noose.

But, yes, someone had to gather the stuff to craft the noosey-looking thing, so it was planned.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
49. And took time to unload & build!.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 10:18 AM
Oct 2022

Being so near the Capitol building, surely there was (or should have been!) security cameras in place.

I wish reporters would do their jobs. I am increasingly discontent with the lack of info in news stories.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,369 posts)
60. That was not a real gallows, it was a prop---
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 10:55 PM
Oct 2022

but I suppose they could have killed someone with it, if they tried hard enough...

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
27. Loudermilk on CCTV giving tours on the 5th
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 06:04 PM
Oct 2022


I believe there might be others, but I’ve seen the Loudermilk tapes. There was more than one tour.

Celerity

(43,389 posts)
32. Senate's Biggest Secret: Lush Hideaways for Lawmakers (2010)
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 06:18 PM
Oct 2022
Private hideaways are highly coveted and top secret

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/the-senates-biggest-secret-lush-hideaways-for-lawmakers/1868321/

Published January 15, 2010 • Updated on January 15, 2010 at 10:44 am

The perks of Senate membership just got sweeter. For the first time, all 100 members of the chamber will have their own cloistered hideaways in the U.S. Capitol, traditionally a coveted mark of seniority and clout that lowly freshmen could only dream about. This year, even junior senators will get their own private, unmarked offices that are a convenient few steps from the Senate chamber.

The addition of a dozen or so newly renovated rooms in the bowels of the Capitol represents a cultural shift in the custom-bound institution, made possible by moving a Capitol Police facility from the building's basement into the new, $621 million Capitol Visitor Center.

While both parties make claims and counterclaims about openness in government, some things never change. The first rule of Senate hideaways: Only senators talk about them. And then, selectively and only about their own. The only ways to know who occupies which office are to be invited in, witness a senator entering or exiting, or see a home-state newspaper lying outside the door in the morning. The hush-hush tradition creates sanctuaries for legislative work and meetings, as well as less official business -- maybe even a nap.

Hideaways occupy ancient nooks on all four floors of the historic building and are institutions within an institution and one of the last vestiges of nonpartisanship in an increasingly divided chamber. The most senior senators get first dibs on the best quarters, regardless of party. They bear room numbers but no names. Some are hidden in plain sight, along corridors used by thousands of unknowing tourists. The portals to others hide beyond massive statues. Still others are crammed in the spaces around rotundas, or at the ends of hallways with multiple sets of stairs. Many can't be found without a guide.

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A peek inside the Senate's secret offices (2014, with video)

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/11/21/secret-office-hideaway-congress-portman-brown/70014810/


Then-senator Joe Biden gives an interview in his hideaway office at the Capitol. SUCHAT PEDERSON, THE NEWS JOURNAL

WASHINGTON — Welcome to the real "undisclosed locations" of Washington. Behind these doors are coveted, secret offices tucked in the nooks and crannies of the U.S. Capitol. These "hideaways" are the hottest political real estate in Congress — unmarked offices where lawmakers can sneak away from nosy reporters, insistent aides and pleading lobbyists.

Every member of Congress has a regular office in one of the House or Senate buildings near the Capitol. But the hideaways are a second office — often just steps away from the Senate floor. (A few House members also have hideaways, but mostly they are reserved for members of the upper chamber.)

Some are more luxurious than others. They are doled out according to seniority, with veteran lawmakers snagging plush space with sweeping views of the National Mall and newbies getting windowless basement digs. "It's all done by secret handshake. All of a sudden you're told you've got a hideaway and here are the keys," says Jim Manley, a former top aide to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

Manley said the offices are used for a little bit of everything — a respite from the day's political buzz, a quiet place to dig into a thick briefing book, or a spot to negotiate a tough agreement. "Not only deal-making is done there, but also probably a cocktail or two as well," Manley said.

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bottomofthehill

(8,332 posts)
54. My point exactly
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 12:11 PM
Oct 2022

If they have their own wiki page and hundreds of articles about then, they really are not super secret.

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
8. I know right, it would be awesome to have an agency like that. I'd bet one would spring to life if
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:07 PM
Oct 2022

we were talking about Hunter Biden or dems.

beaglelover

(3,486 posts)
9. We have panic buttons where I work. But when you start no one bothers to tell you that you have a
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:10 PM
Oct 2022

panic button under your desk and how to operate it. So, inevitably, someone will play with it and accidentally trigger it during a boring conference call and then get a very quick visit to their desk by the building security. LOL!

Quakerfriend

(5,450 posts)
12. Yes, and that's why I can't understand why
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:28 PM
Oct 2022

we still don’t know!

And, I would think that we could track the pipe bomber along their entire route on video, as well.

I fantasize that Garland is going to swoop in and arrest all those in office who were involved!

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
15. I would love to wake up one morning to find they've all been arrested, but I doubt it very seriously
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:46 PM
Oct 2022

There is no doubt they know who all of these people are. WHY are they getting a pass for trying overthrow the government.

Fuck the patriarch.

ProfessorGAC

(65,054 posts)
14. I Read Several Hundred
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:42 PM
Oct 2022

Most are at least 4D, many 5D, all recorded at double frame rate, so the normal playback is 1/2 speed.
According to one article, there is literally no spot not on camera with the vast majority of the area on at least 2 camera views.
I cannot believe they don't have this information.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
13. I've been hesitant to bring it up on DU, but, there are lots of unanswered questions about security
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:37 PM
Oct 2022

that day. One police sargent or whatever was fired, but this required all kinds of organization. Where were guards when they were first flying through the main hall?? I was at home screaming at the tv to call the guards.


Ultimately, someone with authority needs to go down with the deaths that occurred.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
47. Lots of things 'should' or shouldn't' but the fact is they do...if we lose the House it is game over
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 09:03 AM
Oct 2022

and that is that. Then we fight to stop them from breaching the debt or placate them by letting them chip away at SS, Medicare, and Medicaid...vote like your life depends on it because it does.

bottomofthehill

(8,332 posts)
17. I am going to go with
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:02 PM
Oct 2022

The same people who will start removing them this November after the elections. There will be close to 300 offices that move with the election of a new congress.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
20. Who built the gallows? This was outdoors & took time, so someone knows!
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:44 PM
Oct 2022

I've not heard one word about this!

WarGamer

(12,445 posts)
40. A few corrections...
Fri Oct 14, 2022, 06:39 PM
Oct 2022

To start, it was ONE office with missing buttons. Rep Pressley.

And from Snopes:

The aide added that ‘it is likely relevant’ that Pressley took over the office of former congresswoman Katie Hill (D-Calif.) in an office swap at the beginning of the last Congress. Hill subsequently resigned amid an ethics investigation, which may have erroneously placed that office (despite its having been traded to Pressley) on a list to be emptied out at the end of the last Congress.

That might have resulted in the removal of the duress buttons, the aide says.

Still, the aide cautioned that an internal Capitol Police investigation into the matter “remains ongoing.”

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
45. secret from whom can not believe a master list does not exist
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 08:58 AM
Oct 2022

probably an excel spreadsheet that gets emailed more often than the menu of the pizza place that offers free garlic bread

PelisoMyLove

(1 post)
52. WHY?
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 11:37 AM
Oct 2022

Last edited Fri Dec 8, 2023, 05:01 PM - Edit history (2)

Why removing the panic button ?
On the same topic of politics, law and democracy, you can also see https://www.legislationlab.org

Hekate

(90,704 posts)
57. Should be really easy to track thru the maintenance dept/facilities management/general services...
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 08:04 PM
Oct 2022

I worked for 2 major bureaucracies in my county: the University of California Santa Barbara, and the County of Santa Barbara. They run on standardized forms via the people who know who those forms should go to.

The initial investigation could start with clerks and administrative assistants, because they are the people through whose hands the paper flows. The FBI needs to do this — someone knows.



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