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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDOJ files BRUTAL appeal brief of the entire Special Master Shenanigans
(added a TLDR at the bottom of this post)
DoJ has filed with the 11th Circus to vacate the special master appointment in its entirety. This is in addition to the partial recision already granted by the 11th Circus, which tested the waters.
One of the clearest takeaways - he's guilty of obstruction and they have all the evidence they need to prove that without question.
Here is the intro:
Full doc here:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23132504-trumpdocsdojbrfca11101422
I will update the OP with choice nuggets as I dig deeper.
Edit:
If you liked Cobbledick, wait until you get a load of Hunsucker:
The outline here is itself a joy. What's amazing is the thorough treatment that the following bleedingly obvious propositions receive:
A. Plaintiff Has No Plausible Claims of Executive Privilege
1. Plaintiff cannot invoke executive privilege to bar the Executive Branchs review and use of its own records
2. United States v. Nixon forecloses any executive privilege claims
B. Plaintiff Has No Plausible Claims of Attorney-Client Privilege That Would Justify an Injunction
D. Plaintiffs Purported Factual Disputes Are Irrelevant
1. Plaintiffs suggestion that he might have declassified the seized records is irrelevant
2. Plaintiffs suggestion that he might have categorized seized records as personal records under the PRA only weakens his executive privilege claims
TLDR: The DoJ has taken the ball handed to them by (1) the 11th Circuit's previous partial reversal, as requested, of part of the special master order and (2) SCOTUS' refusal to bother with that 11th Circuit decision; and has decided to simply apply the same reasoning to the entirety of materials seized in the Mar-a-lago search.
Filing this AFTER SCOTUS said it wasn't going to touch the first decision indicates a very cautious approach by the DoJ to see if SCOTUS was inclined to deal with this case and how. SCOTUS passed on that, so it increases the confidence level by at least some increment they aren't going to bother with the marginally broader general objection to the Special Master. It also separates the eggs and baskets with respect to the types of documents seized.
Here's the key point:
Tetrachloride
(7,844 posts)The question is rare, medium, well-done, black out, charcoal or ashes.
Warpy
(111,263 posts)The factory has suspended production due to a chile shortage.
https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/food-verify/sriracha-production-suspended-chili-pepper-shortage-huy-fong-foods-mexico-fact-check/536-b02b3274-bc39-490e-83ca-0d66822eb5aa
If that doesn't convince people climate change is real, nothing will.
malaise
(269,004 posts)That is all
ShazzieB
(16,399 posts)I don't see any way he can NOT be.
No doubt gloom and doormers are going to post (if they haven't already started) that it will never happen, our democracy is doomed yada yada, but they will be wrong.
They. WILL. Be. WRONG.
Response to Effete Snob (Original post)
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Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)I don't stay up worrying about what people's wishful thinking leads them to believe. I take a lot of shit here for that.
The OP is about a current fact, not hopes and dreams.
spanone
(135,838 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,166 posts)After all the bullshit, there is copper-bottom gravitas.
AG Garland is doing more for the country than if he were on the Supreme Court.
Mitch, you ok man?
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)upset when there were those who were always dragging on AG Garland.. like they knew better than he did what was going on and How to Do IT.
DET
(1,311 posts)I could have sworn that they did that a couple of weeks ago.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)DET
(1,311 posts)It may be that DOJ announced its intention to file but didnt do so until today. In any case, I hope that its expedited.
onenote
(42,703 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)Appreciate the link to the full doc as well as the highlights and commentary.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,616 posts)A great service to the DU community.
Looks like a shrewd and savvy move by DOJ.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)Thanks for posting!
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,264 posts)I have some fun reading this weekend
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)I'll enjoy it with tomorrow morning's coffee.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)Finally, to the extent Plaintiff eventually intends to seek return of property, his hypothetical, prior designation of records as personal records would still be unavailing. It was Plaintiffs burden to establish a possessory interest in the seized records when he brought this suit, and he cannot rely on threadbare insinuations to establish yet another dispute that must be adjudicated before a special master. Further, Plaintiff plainly would not be entitled to the return of evidence solely on the ground that the evidence belonged to him when it was seized. If that were the case, evidence rooms nationwide would soon be emptied.
(Bold added).
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23132504/trumpdocsdojbrfca11101422.pdf
ppg. 46, 47, (pdf ppg. 60, 61)
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)chriscan64
(1,789 posts)"My lawyer's business card was in the box of jewelry I stole, so it's protected by attorney client privilege."
"This selfie of me with the brick of coke proves that it's MY coke and should be returned forthwith."