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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't think the media gets it regarding the secret service.
It wasn't a breakdown in communications or failure to believe that the capitol would be attacked. That's what the criminals in the ss want people to believe. No, there were traitors in the ss that knew it was likely but intentionally did nothing. Why do you think the texts were deleted? By accident?
no_hypocrisy
(46,114 posts)It's another thing to become part of the overthrow of the USA b/c POTUS wants to.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)DSandra
(999 posts)Lasher
(27,597 posts)Oct 21, 2016
Increased attention toward the killing of black men and women by police throughout the past year has ignited national conversations on racism and law enforcement. From Freddie Gray in April 2015 to Deborah Danner an emotionally disturbed woman fatally shot this week by an NYPD officer protests around the country have forced many Americans to reassess how police engage with communities of color.
In light of or perhaps despite the increased scrutiny, FBI director James Comey told police officers at a national conference last Sunday that because of insufficient data on use of force, Americans actually have no idea whether racial bias in policing is really an epidemic. Pointing to current public outrage over police killings of African-Americans, Comey said the absence of good information and data has aided in the growing belief that police officers target particular communities.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement
And to this day, not one single thing has been done about it.
ProfessorGAC
(65,042 posts)Their loyalty needs to be the the safety of the person holding the office.
Who it is doesn't matter! Obviously, somebody chose loyalty to a person over their loyalty to the office.
no_hypocrisy
(46,114 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)The fascist media DOES get it, the problem is they support the lies.
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)80+% of all Media in the U.S. is owned by wealthy Republicans...........
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)For once in 4 years Pence stood up. He also helped Nancy and Schumer to get the Congress back in session by making sure they had security.
I will never make light of what Pence did that day. I think he had no idea what he was signing on for by accepting the VP.
deelee
(41 posts)But everyone else knew who he was hooking with, and then he had four years to figure it out. On 1/6 he was ONLY really worried about his own safety. Now, afterward, he could testify, but doesn't. Screw him
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Pence did the right, lawful thing that day.
McKim
(2,412 posts)Yes!!!! The media doesnt WANT to get it!
llashram
(6,265 posts)RockRaven
(14,967 posts)But the barrel is very happy for the media to make that mistake.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)cilla4progress
(24,733 posts)from the very top.
That's who tfg installed.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Call it what it is!
Duppers
(28,120 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)relayerbob
(6,544 posts)The SS didn't "ignore" warnings, they participated in the planning. Trump didn't avoid calling in the Guard, he actively led the attack. The head of the Capitol Police didn't fail to prepare his people, he was in on it, and intentionally withheld weapons and planning. And on and on.
Irish_Dem
(47,092 posts)There were a lot of other people who participated in the attack.
Trump did not do this by himself.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)But at the capitol, the Chief of the USCP and the House and SENATE Sergeants at Arms were all gone within 48 hours of the attack.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)relayerbob
(6,544 posts)A major giveaway was that Trump wasn't whisked off by helicopter as soon as the mob brkoe into the Capitol. Although it was obvious before that, also.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)If people showed up to rob a bank, cops wouldn't be holding doors open for them.
Kid Berwyn
(14,905 posts)Should the reporting be straight-up factual meaning with the full resources of the free press behind the reporters, investigators and analysts and the traitors would be named, indicted and tried.
Seeing how these crooks also work for the same class as the owners of the mass media, it wont happen without a Democratically led Congress and Executive.
Only Uncle Sam can level the economic playing field, a park that includes the political playground.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Chump had his own bodyguard - Keith Schiller - who had worked for him for over 20 years. Schiller came to the White House with Chump, but once John Kelly came in as Chief of Staff, Schiller decided to leave. I guess Schiller thought HE was going to be Chief of Staff, I don't know.
So Chump lost his "best buddy" and he had to hand-pick from the Secret Service the few guys who would become his "trusted right hand" guys. For them loyalty was everything, taking an oath to uphold the Constitution meant nothing.
It's all part of the story of how the White House turned into the Mafia under Chump.
(link) https://people.com/politics/president-trump-bodyguard-keith-schiller-leaving-white-house/
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Theyre on the same side. They dont want their audience to get it.
triron
(22,003 posts)That in my post.
GreenWave
(6,754 posts)Thunderbeast
(3,411 posts)He cobbled it together with Secret Service, INS, prison guards, and Federal Protective Service.
These paramilitary forces showed up in Portland without ID making illegal arrests.
paleotn
(17,917 posts)SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)onetexan
(13,041 posts)SMH
Joinfortmill
(14,423 posts)live love laugh
(13,109 posts)the intentional breakdown in communications.
dlk
(11,566 posts)We cant ever forget its the owners and execs have their own agenda that colors everything that gets written and produced; and their agenda doesnt always mesh with democracyone reason we see so much infotainment in place of hard news.
spanone
(135,836 posts)Thu 31 Dec 2020 11.48 EST
In a changing of the guard as well as the man to be guarded at the White House, Bidens security detail will undergo some staffing changes, the Washington Post reported on Thursday.
Several senior Secret Service agents are poised to return to the president-elects protection team and Biden knows these agents well because they guarded him and his family during his time as vice-president, according to the article, echoed in a report by CNN, citing a law enforcement source.....
....Although staffing changes are typical, several incidents reportedly contributed to the heightened concerns from Bidens allies that some agents and officers might be loyal to Trump.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/31/joe-biden-secret-service-team-trump-loyalty
Magoo48
(4,709 posts)Its not that we on DU are generally smarter than the media, we are simply free to discuss what we see and deduce. They are not.
dchill
(38,497 posts)ms liberty
(8,577 posts)SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)PatrickforB
(14,574 posts)Honestly, Biden needs to clean house in the SS, NSA, State, CIA, and FBI.
Let's get people in there who will die to protect the republic, not who will commit treason so one guy can stay in power.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)I was watching the news on the coverage and all the media was talking about was a clip from Nancy Pelosi exands she would punch Donald Trump in the face
I have yet to find anyone in the media that actually discussed the really big huge moment
When Pat Sips Alone
Screw the pooch when he answered the question ""who in the White House did not want the TERRORIST to leave the CAPITOL‽
He thought the question was "who on the staff and did not want the terrorists to leave the capitol?
Before he answered the question Liz Chaney corrected him corrected him and said "in the White House"
He responded "no one absolutely no 1 wanted them to stay in the Capitol"
And then he tried to say oh I was talking about the staff, And Adam shift com and Liz Chaney made sure he understood that he answered the question about everyone in the White House including the president of the United States.
Pat Sips Alone, just got really quiet and he realized he couldn't correct his answer without implicating Donald Trump.
This entire exchange starts if you're watching C-span when the clock is at 2:55.
So don't take my word for it. Go find it and see for yourself.
And yet for some reason the media chose to focus on Nancy polosi threatening to punch Donald Trump in the face🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
How's that for absolutely useless media?
triron
(22,003 posts)Heather MC
(8,084 posts)triron
(22,003 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... by accident. Furthermore, I don't believe any of those texts would have had any more information in them than the 1.5 million documents that have been turned over. There isn't any evidence that the there are criminals or traitors in the secret service. If and when such evidence turns up, I'm sure they will be dealt with accordingly.
Stuart G
(38,427 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,901 posts)were paranoid about anyone at all knowing what they were up to. This lead to a particular POV at SS being prevalent under his regime. Much like DJT personal loyalty was emphasized along with mistrust of the rest of government. We saw that same perversion acted out by Cheney and the PNAC crew when they built a parallel CIA, DOD, and State Dept. intelligence apparatus to facilitate their policy goals in Iraq and elsewhere.
One of the significant flaws of the Obama years was the retention of people who were essentially agents in place for W's distortion of government. He kept far too many Bush/Cheney/PNAC loyalists in the name of fair play. The Obama Staff along with the DNC never seemed to grasp just how committed those people are to the PNAC vision of American empire and governance.
That situation laid the ground for the next GOP Conservative to take the office and continue the retreading of American government. We are seeing much the same in the current revelations about FBI, DOJ, DOD and other agency staff being loyal to DJT and the Christian Fascist agenda.
The national media doesn't "get it" because they trade in cultural myth and symbols of the same as something easily digested by the average grocery shopper (who is actually their target audience). Anything which requires additional thought by the reader/viewer is considered a waste of time even if the distinctions are significant ones. Why is that? Column inches used to be the excuse. Click time is the cause now. If it doesn't fit on a phone screen as a headline with remarks it doesn't get run. You supposedly have between 3 to 7 seconds before the average phone user or tablet surfer moves to the next available headline.
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)markodochartaigh
(1,138 posts)Some media outlets do cover it, Free Speech TV, Progressive Voices, Pacifica Radio, local progressive radio stations in some cities. We need to support the media sources which report facts.
KPN
(15,645 posts)krkaufman
(13,435 posts)Sadly, this isnt really new information, even if the media wants to treat it as new. Just think back to the b-s rationalizations offered by Comey for his pre-election announcement from: email investigation concern that the info would be leaked (by FBI agents).
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)Parts of the USSS and the FBI were on the job to protect him and keep him in power. Pence's refusal to get in the car provided supposedly to take him to safety demonstrated this fact very dramatically and clearly. The VP may not have known if those particular Secret Service agents were there to kidnap and or murder him -- but for chrissakes, he was clearly suspicious and distrustful enough to refuse their efforts to get him into the car.
Trump doesn't know what the praetorian guard was to the emperors of Rome because Trump is an ignorant pig. But he knows instinctively -- as did those emperors --that he needed to cultivate an armed elite service for his protection and, ultimately (in, say, a second term) carry out his orders regardless of whether they violate basic constitutional principles. And this he managed to do by culling the ranks of the USSS and FBI and military for fascists willing to sell out their own comrades and country for a piece of power.
truth...traitors were involved as they were in the Senate and House and still are there.