The thread "Too expensive to stay alive" got me thinking in another direction. . . .how many people

[niyad]

have died during, and as a result of, the pandemic and TRAITOR**'s horrific, deliberate mishandling of it, for whom Social Security is no longer paying out?

Weird and ghoulish, I know, but. . . .

[SheltieLover]

1. Lots, in nursing homes especially, no doubt!

Perhaps not a coincidence.

Baffles me, though, why qpukes are pushing antivax, antimask policies which are killing their base.

[vanlassie]

2. My dad died while sequestered in a nursing home during lockdown.

He never left his room including mealtimes. They brought Covid to him. We couldn’t go inside and it was obvious they were short handed. It was the most expensive place in town, BTW. I very much doubt the true death numbers will ever be known for nursing homes. Dad’s death was not included as Covid.

[SheltieLover]

4. So sorry for your loss!

You know, weeks before covid was a thing in the States, Arkansas kept reporting very high "flu" deaths & I knew it was covid.

Of course nobody investigated it though.

I watch news out of China & Europe for trends & act accordingly.

Glad I did because I got 3M N95 masks cheap, $29 for 50 shipped. Within a couple weeks, the identical product & quantity was selling for $750 on ebay.

Glad I stocked up on toilet paper, too! Still have about a year's worth. Good thing since the 96 roll pack at Aldi that was $13 has now doubled in price!

[niyad]

9. I also pay attention to the news from Europe and China. I remember talking to a friend

who does the same about a strange new disease in China back in December '19, and wondering just how bad it was going to get. We had absolutely no clue about the horrors that awaited.

[SheltieLover]

10. It became obvious to me in Fwb. 2020.

That's when I bought masks & lots of toilet paper.

[niyad]

8. I am so very sorry for your heartbreaking loss. I wish there were words of comfort, but I know

that there are none.

[niyad]

5. Logic seems to have escaped them entirely.

[SheltieLover]

6. Well, yes.

[Mr.Bill]

3. That's easy.

Subtract the number of people who died in the US from the Ebola virus (2) from the number of people who died from the Covid 19 virus.

[niyad]

7. You are correct. I was not even thinking in terms of down the road, just of the ones collecting now

[SheltieLover]

11. Convenient how media is not calling tfg the biggest mass murderer in US history!

800,000.

[niyad]

12. And then there is long covid as well. . .

[SheltieLover]

13. Absolutely!

That will end up breaking the back of Social Security because of SSDI claims.

Just don't tax the rich, though.

[Turbineguy]

14. We had a guy in my Union

he was the perfect Union member for people who hate Unions. He was a professional patient. He must have cost the health plan over 1/2 million per year for many years. In fact, he used to walk around in 'scrubs", ready to go to the hospital at a moment's notice. He carried an over-sized briefcase with his papers and hundreds of prescription bottles.

One day, he died. Within two years, the Union's medical plan was back to solvency.

[hunter]

15. That's a good advertisement for a single payer health care system.

One risk pool, spread across the entire nation.

Clearly the guy you are talking about had a serious illness, one way or another.

If I was Emperor of the United States I'd probably nationalize the entire health care system.

[Turbineguy]

16. There were a number of people who were fleecing the plan

in various ways. There was one guy who sent his whole family for weekly Chiropractor adjustments. The Chiropractor turned out to be his brother-in-law.

[hunter]

18. In Emperor Hunter's national health care system shenanigans like that wouldn't pay.

Health care providers would be salaried. Inflating patient numbers by recruiting family members wouldn't be lucrative. At best it might keep a clinic with too few patients open. At worst it would get a health care provider dismissed, especially if no services were provided.

That's assuming Chiropractors were included in my health plan.

[FakeNoose]

17. A lot of nursing homes are closing in Pennsylvania

Either they lost too many patients to Covid and have to close. Or in some cases the patients' families are finding other, safer accommodations for their loved ones.

[niyad]

19. Perhaps that is a good thing, if it is weeding out the horrors.

[Meowmee]

20. Its not weird etc.

People were quite ok with elderly and high risk people dying for many reasons and I am sure that was one for many.

[niyad]

21. A number of them are going through my head right now.

[dembotoz]

22. per cdc life expectancy has dropped....

statistically we all moved closer to the finish line

[niyad]

23. A most excellent point.