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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould Speaker Pelosi sue Trump for reckless endangerment for sending the armed mob to the Capitol?
Don't know how the law works, but a quick googling showed that a conviction could lead to up to seven years in prison.
Plenty of codefendants to throw into the mix, too: Fox News, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Facebook, Twitter . . . too many to list.
Would also love to see her punch him in the face, too.
Tetrachloride
(7,844 posts)Speaker Pelosi plays a whole fleet of poker hands.
and now the chips on the table are going up.
It will happen.
LaMouffette
(2,031 posts)She is truly a force to be reckoned with, which is why Trump despises her. But of course, he hates all strong women.
2naSalit
(86,630 posts)Already several Capitol police and Rep. Swalwell and others suing him for that?
LaMouffette
(2,031 posts)to do the same, as private citizens, but I don't know beans about the law, especially when it comes to elected officials and their rights to sue other elected officials.
rsdsharp
(9,180 posts)Neither she as Speaker, nor the House as a whole has criminal enforcement authority.
ProfessorGAC
(65,044 posts)A judge might toss it out on first review or a jury might laugh one out of court.
But, suits for reckless endangerment do occur.
rsdsharp
(9,180 posts)Anyone CAN sue civilly for anything, if they are willing to risk sanctions. No private citizen has the right to institute a criminal action.
ProfessorGAC
(65,044 posts)Lots of suits get filed that have no chanc3of succeeding.
Waste of court resources.
Ocelot II
(115,706 posts)To sue TFG in a civil case (that is, make a claim for money damages against TFG as an individual for inflicting harm), she would first have to get around various defenses that pertain to government officials, like sovereign immunity, discretionary immunity of government officials, and the Westfall Act, a statute that allows the government to take over the defense of a government employee. I some of the injured police officers have filed claims against TFG for their injuries, and a judge has already ruled that TFG is not entitled to claim immunity because did his actions "did not fall into the outer perimeter of official presidential responsibilities because they were entirely concern[ed] with his efforts to remain in office for a second term. However, it remains to be seen whether a jury would find that TFG's actions were the proximate cause of the officers' injuries and that those injuries were not the result entirely of the actions of others (intervening or superseding causes).
As far as criminal cases go, those are already in the works - but they are not under the control of the J6 Committee, which does not have a prosecution function or powers, and are not the same as a civil claim for damages. However, a verdict against TFG in a criminal case could be used to support a verdict in a civil case involving the same actions that constituted the crime.
LaMouffette
(2,031 posts)As usual, the Slobfather (as Malaise would say!), sent others (the armed mob) to do his dirty work so that he could have plausible deniability for whatever happened as a result of his inciting the mob to violence. But he so deserves to do hard time. It's a miracle that more people didn't die that day.
Irish_Dem
(47,100 posts)This is why our criminal justice system looks weak and foolish.
LaMouffette
(2,031 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,100 posts)We failed the audit.
LaMouffette
(2,031 posts)the Trump presidency, I mean, and that Hillary was really the president this whole time, working behind the scenes and fulfilling all her presidential duties and keeping the country safe and that Trump had been hired (as the reality-show actor he is) to play the role of the worst, most amoral, most corrupt president in US history. Why? To demonstrate how the whole country could go off the rails if someone like him had ever been elected. And to expose all the weaknesses in the system and Constitutional loopholes that a worst-ever president could exploit. Kind of like a cautionary tale.
And then, at the end of the four years, there would be a "big reveal" and everyone would be elated that Trump was never really president . . .
And then I woke up.
Irish_Dem
(47,100 posts)Yes it has all been like a surreal nightmare.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,264 posts)These plaintiffs are suing under the KKK Act. TFG has lost several motions to dismiss these lawsuits.