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Nevilledog

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Sat Oct 15, 2022, 02:54 PM Oct 2022

Figliuzzi: Did our intelligence agencies fumble on Jan. 6 -- or worse?



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My latest column, out today. We may need new players at key agencies if it’s found they threw the game: Jan 6 intelligence failures warrant even more investigation ⁦@MSNBCDaily⁩ ⁦@MSNBC⁩

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Opinion | Did our intelligence agencies fumble on Jan. 6 — or worse?
The Biden administration should be demanding answers.
8:45 AM · Oct 15, 2022


https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/jan-6-intelligence-failures-warrant-even-more-investigation-n1299887

Days after the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol, Steven D’Antuono, the head of the FBI’s Washington field office, said the FBI had no intelligence that suggested there would be anything that day but a lawful pro-Trump rally. Six months later, FBI Director Christopher Wray reiterated the claim when he told Congress that the agency he leads had had no specific “intelligence indicating that hundreds and hundreds of people were going to breach the Capitol complex.”

But at Thursday’s hearing of the House Jan. 6 committee, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., touted “evidence that President Trump was aware of the risk of violence” and that “the FBI, U.S. Capitol Police, Metropolitan Police and other agencies all gathered and disseminated intelligence suggesting the possibility of violence at the Capitol prior to the riot.”

The Biden administration should be demanding answers. Did the leaders of our nation’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies fumble the ball that day? Or was their failure to prevent violence more akin to intentional grounding? Without substantive answers from agency leaders many of us will be left to conclude that there was a willful blindness to the signs that were staring them in the face. Was there institutional sympathy for the rioters’ cause? Were there orders from higher-ups to downplay the available intelligence? Do existing guidelines and laws constrain robust collection and investigation of domestic terror threats? If the premier agencies in federal law enforcement are to maintain credibility, they must be transparent with the public they depend upon and protect.

The FBI is the nation’s primary counterterrorism agency, and Schiff said Thursday that “days before Jan. 6, the president's senior advisers at the Department of Justice and FBI, for example, received an intelligence summary that included material indicating that certain people traveling to Washington were making plans to attack the Capitol. This summary noted online calls to occupy federal buildings, rhetoric about invading the Capitol building and plans to arm themselves and to engage in political violence at the event.”

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How many more motherfuckers like this 👇 are out there?



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Here is suspended FBI special agent Kyle Seraphin, three weeks ago, on the Dan Bongino Show bragging about getting rid of “over a hundred” leads in the January 6 investigation, calling them examples of “partisanship.”

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Figliuzzi: Did our intelligence agencies fumble on Jan. 6 -- or worse? (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2022 OP
"Fumble" live love laugh Oct 2022 #1
Much, much, much, worse. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #2
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2022 #3
How did the FBI, CIA, military intelligence all miss that Trump was going to overthrow the US gov't? Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #4
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #6
Well, DU is not a primary information source. We're not a source period. Hortensis Oct 2022 #8
Addressing it means more than just discussing it on forums or at bureaucratic water coolers. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #11
Last week's public J6 committee hearing is not exactly water cooler chat. Hortensis Oct 2022 #13
This Hekate Oct 2022 #14
There it is.. a fucking confession in the form of braggery msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #5
We do know this about Wray. Grasswire2 Oct 2022 #7
WTFis wrong with America, Europe must be thinking. triron Oct 2022 #9
House cleaning, all agencies. 2naSalit Oct 2022 #10
LIHOP? MIHOP? A mix of the 2? NewHendoLib Oct 2022 #12
I am going with "or worse" for MOMFUDSKI Oct 2022 #15

Irish_Dem

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4. How did the FBI, CIA, military intelligence all miss that Trump was going to overthrow the US gov't?
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 02:57 PM
Oct 2022

ETA: Probably another 1/6 topic that will never be addressed.

Hortensis

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8. Well, DU is not a primary information source. We're not a source period.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 03:13 PM
Oct 2022

Everything we think we know came from those "addressing" it, both in and out of government.

Irish_Dem

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11. Addressing it means more than just discussing it on forums or at bureaucratic water coolers.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 03:19 PM
Oct 2022

Trump was a one man audit on the entire US government.

We failed the audit.

It would be a good idea to shore up the deficiencies in the system.

Hortensis

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13. Last week's public J6 committee hearing is not exactly water cooler chat.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 03:30 PM
Oct 2022

It's online, and if you watch it you will see that it informed the nation of this very problem, releasing new information about it, and explained that further investigation is needed.

msfiddlestix

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5. There it is.. a fucking confession in the form of braggery
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 03:00 PM
Oct 2022

he was suspended.? As opposed to being fired? is he permanently "suspended"???



Those of us who had our suspicions, got it right.

Now what?

Grasswire2

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7. We do know this about Wray.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 03:05 PM
Oct 2022

In 2003, during the Valerie Plame outing investigation by the FBI, Chris Wray INAPPROPRIATELY informed AG Ashcroft of the details of the ongoing FBI investigation into Karl Rove. He leaked info to Ashcroft in multiple briefings.

This ensuing scandal eventually forced Ashcroft to recuse himself, and Comey was the replacement.

Some people think Trump appointed Wray because he thought (or knew?) that Wray would keep him informed about investigations into himself.

I don't understand why Biden didn't replace Wray.

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