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babylonsister

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Sat Oct 15, 2022, 04:10 PM Oct 2022

Trump 'wanted people to die' so he could invoke the Insurrection Act and stay in power

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Trump 'wanted people to die' so he could invoke the Insurrection Act and stay in power
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Friday October 14, 2022 · 4:08 PM EDT
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There is a reason, former Department of Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor explains, why Trump did nothing on Jan. 6 to stop the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. The reason is simple: Trump gleefully watched the sordid events unfold on television while his aides panicked and pleaded with him fruitlessly to do something because he wanted people to die.

As Taylor points out, the more deaths that occurred (especially deaths to members of Congress) the better justification Trump would have for invoking the Insurrection Act, declaring martial law, and ultimately preventing the peaceful transfer of power.
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In this clip, which aired Thursday evening on MSNBC, Taylor speaks as someone who knows Trump and has spent a significant amount of time with him. He understands Trump’s depraved mindset as well as anyone.



From Matthew Chapman, reporting for Raw Story:

"It made my heart race to watch today's hearing, really, because they brought up Trump's mindset, and the question was, what was his mindset?" Taylor told anchor Nicolle Wallace. "I'm going to demystify that for America right now. I've spent time with the guy in the Oval Office, the White House situation room, and Air Force One. I'll tell you what his mindset was on January 6th."

"I believe Donald Trump wanted people to die," said Taylor. "He wanted people to die … who were elected officials, en masse, so he could call out the military, so he could invoke the Insurrection Act, so he could prevent the peaceful transfer of power. That's not a conspiracy theory. In fact, in hindsight, it's pretty damn clear to me this is what he had in mind from day one in office."


The news media long ago fell into the trap of portraying Donald Trump as some sort of gruff but still amusing blowhard, boorish but mesmerizingly larger than life, essentially an entertainer spewing riveting (if raw) verbiage tailor-made for media consumption. This was the image he cultivated on The Apprentice, and it’s the same image that got him elected. To this day, the media regard Trump more with fascination than the horrified repugnance he actually warrants.

It’s almost as if the idea that someone in such a position of power could be so utterly bereft of human decency is just too much for our media to process. Thanks in large part to this treatment he received prior to the 2016 election, nearly half the electorate—and perhaps more—continue to regard him as a type of media-savvy clown, playing to his adoring fans by saying “just what he thinks,” without ever questioning why what he “thinks” strangely aligns with their own prejudices and predispositions.

Many in this country began to realize exactly what Trump was when they took note of the things he said during his rallies, by his weird embrace of murderous dictators, and by his solicitude toward virulent racists. But what really should have been a colossal, waving red flag to the vast majority of Americans was the complete disregard of human life he exhibited during the COVID-19 pandemic. As things turned out, enough people got the message about the kind of evil we were really saddled with in Donald Trump. Hundreds of thousands of people died miserably and unnecessarily for the sole reason that they’d placed their faith in Trump’s words, and the words of those whose political careers stood to profit from their allegiance to him. Even then, at no time did Trump exhibit the slightest degree of empathy or compassion for those deaths, nor has he expressed or intimated such sentiments since.

What we have with Trump is not a clown, not a boor, not a “populist,” but someone with the mindset of a cold-blooded murderer. The incongruity of witnessing someone with such a mindset placed at the pinnacle of American power, someone fawned upon by the media and who (for many) gave voice to their own inner resentments, operated to obscure that basic fact, even from those who truly should have known better.

The Jan. 6 Select Committee has done yeoman’s work in unmasking the fact that Trump was intent on maintaining power and instigated a deadly insurrection among his most virulent followers to achieve that end. But it still hasn’t managed to convey in the clearest possible terms what is blatantly obvious: that this man fully intended as many Americans as necessary to die for him to preserve his own position and status. And worse, that he would not have lost a second’s worth of sleep over it.

That is the very definition of “evil.”
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Trump 'wanted people to die' so he could invoke the Insurrection Act and stay in power (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2022 OP
Yes . ... Lovie777 Oct 2022 #1
And if that had happened, who knows where we would be... brush Oct 2022 #2
K&R brer cat Oct 2022 #3
Maybe we are lucky he organized things. Turbineguy Oct 2022 #4
Kick Rec Bookmark Hekate Oct 2022 #5
I wish Rebl2 Oct 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Oct 2022 #7
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2022 #8
What a freaking monster Blue Owl Oct 2022 #9
"He wanted people to die ... who were elected officials, en masse, so he could call out the military, sop Oct 2022 #10
He also wants to impress his fellow dick tators GreenWave Oct 2022 #11
THE IRONY. Create an insurrection to get people killed so you can invoke the insurrection act. TigressDem Oct 2022 #12
He is the definition of evil malaise Oct 2022 #13
It's musclecar6 Oct 2022 #14
We were probably saved by the people who refused to allow the metals detectors to be removed. Maraya1969 Oct 2022 #15

Lovie777

(12,272 posts)
1. Yes . ...
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 04:18 PM
Oct 2022

my family watched the attack on the tv and we all said to each other that shithole wants people to die so he can declare "martial law".

brush

(53,782 posts)
2. And if that had happened, who knows where we would be...
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 05:11 PM
Oct 2022

right now? Some have said that even if trump declared martial law on Jan. 6, 2021, the Constitution calls for the new president to be inaugurated on Jan. 20th and that would've happened. IMO that's pretty naive to think after all the planning and effort to overthrow the government and violated the Constitution to get to martial law with trump still in power, he would automatically accede to what the Constitution says on Jan. 21.

I don't think so. trump could be still in complete control now. The Nat'l Guard, or even regular Army by trump's decree, could still be in control of the nation and we be in full-on fascism.

Uncharted territory.

Pelosi, Schumer, and even McConnell helped to get the Nat'l Guard in from neighboring states to clear the Capitol so that EC ballot certification could be finished before killing happened, which is what trump was hoping for.

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sop

(10,190 posts)
10. "He wanted people to die ... who were elected officials, en masse, so he could call out the military,
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 06:36 PM
Oct 2022

so he could invoke the Insurrection Act, so he could prevent the peaceful transfer of power." I recall thinking the same thing that day. There's no other conclusion to be drawn.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
12. THE IRONY. Create an insurrection to get people killed so you can invoke the insurrection act.
Sat Oct 15, 2022, 08:27 PM
Oct 2022

"It made my heart race to watch today's hearing, really, because they brought up Trump's mindset, and the question was, what was his mindset?" Taylor told anchor Nicolle Wallace. "I'm going to demystify that for America right now. I've spent time with the guy in the Oval Office, the White House situation room, and Air Force One. I'll tell you what his mindset was on January 6th."

"I believe Donald Trump wanted people to die," said Taylor. "He wanted people to die … who were elected officials, en masse, so he could call out the military, so he could invoke the Insurrection Act, so he could prevent the peaceful transfer of power. That's not a conspiracy theory. In fact, in hindsight, it's pretty damn clear to me this is what he had in mind from day one in office."

musclecar6

(1,687 posts)
14. It's
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:08 AM
Oct 2022


Been my opinion ever since he threw his hat in the ring to run for president, that he wants to be a modern day Hitler. He is by all indications, a highly manipulative would be amoral totalitarian dictator, completely devoid of one shred of decency.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
15. We were probably saved by the people who refused to allow the metals detectors to be removed.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:51 AM
Oct 2022

1/6 would have been a very different day if all those heavily armed people had been allowed in

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